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Convicted Spammer Jeffrey Kilbride Flees Prison

Posted by timothy on from the be-cautious-subject-is-considered-a-spammer dept.

An anonymous reader writes with this news from California: "According to the article, 'Officials at the Federal Bureau of Prisons say an inmate escaped from a minimum security area of the federal prison in Lompoc. Prison officials say Jeffrey Kilbride, 48, was discovered missing at around 1:30 p.m. on Friday....A search is reportedly underway. Prison officials say Kilbride was serving a 78-month sentence for conspiracy and fraud. He was due to be released on December 11, 2015.'" Here's why Kilbride was in prison.

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  1. What an idiot. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Due for release in 2015? Not anymore.

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    1. Re:What an idiot. by plopez · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Either he was stupid or got a death threat from a disgruntled customer. If the latter he could have flipped and gone into witness protection. So probably just stupid,

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    2. Re:What an idiot. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Interesting

      He obviously had a reason to escape immediately. I wonder what was happening to him.

      Happening to him? In "minimum security"? Probably boredom, very unlikely any ass pounding.

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    3. Re:What an idiot. by mendax · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Due for release in 2015? Not anymore.

      Indeed, escape is a new offense, he will have to spend more time in prison in addition to completing his original sentence, and he will no longer be housed in a Club Fed. He'll be behind the razor wire now. Sucks to be him.

      They'll catch him no doubt pretty soon... unless this was coordinated with someone on the outside. If so, he could be far away by now. But they'll catch him eventually. As many people have pointed out recently in many posts on many topics, it's hard to remain anonymous and hide in plain sight these days.

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    4. Re:What an idiot. by EvilSS · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Whatever it was, I doubt it will be any worse that what he'll be in for when he's recaptured (and odds are, he will be). No more minimum security for him. I don't think he will enjoy his new accommodations.

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    5. Re: What an idiot. by AmazingRuss · · Score: 5, Funny

      He better hope the cops get to him before we do...

    6. Re:What an idiot. by tomhath · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This kind of person often thinks he's so much smarter than everyone else that he doesn't need to follow the rules like the rest of us fools.When he gets caught he'll blame other people, bad luck, whatever; it's never his fault. After all, he never did anything that was really wrong. Just followed a different set of rules because he's special.

    7. Re:What an idiot. by moonflower1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Only in the US. In other jurisdictions every men's urge to be free is recognized and accordingly there are no additional sentences for prison breaks IF nobody gets hurt, bribed, and property doesn't get damaged.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_escape#Punishment

    8. Re:What an idiot. by blue+trane · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "Said every person in jail and every kid in detention."

      Example of a false positive error. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_positive_paradox. When your justice system pursues a high conviction rate rather than truth, there are likely more innocent people in jail than guilty.

    9. Re:What an idiot. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      going into Protective Custody in prison is the worst thing you can do. everyone will suspect you as a snitch or chomo, at the least you are showing weakness. either way, when you eventually get out of PC and back into GenPop, you'll be marked as a target for bangers to impress the shotcaller or as someone's bitch.

    10. Re:What an idiot. by Oysterville · · Score: 5, Funny

      He will learn what we all have learned: opting out doesn't work.

    11. Re:What an idiot. by Rich0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's money well spent. Spammers need to rot in jail and the longer the better. He's caused millions of dollars in damages with his spam shit and if he stays on the loose he'll be back at it. These guys never quit, they think they have the right to annoy us without end.

      If that were true then the sentence should be life, not a few years.

      Our justice system is extremely messed-up. It is about punishing people for past transgressions, and not about preventing future transgressions. If anything the way we treat people once they're out just makes them more likely to offend - do you think this guy could get a job running mail servers for a legit corporation once he's out? No, they'd never hire them, so that leaves what he's good at - sending more spam.

      People who commit crimes should be kept under an appropriate amount of supervision until they've been rehabilitated to the point where they're not likely to commit future crimes. The right "sentence" isn't going to be the same for every criminal. Some criminals could probably be put on immediate probation for 2nd degree murder, and others might need 30 years in max security for shoplifting. It shouldn't be about punishments that fit the crime, it should be about rehabilitation that fits the criminal. There shouldn't be registered sex-offenders - people likely to re-offend shouldn't be let out at all, and those unlikely to re-offend shouldn't be treated as if they are likely to do so. Whether a criminal in rehabilitation is behind bars or not should depend on how likely they are to re-offend during rehabilitation, and how likely they are to comply with their rehabilitation activities. If they were trusted to be out on bail during their trial, I'd probably trust them to show up on time for their 8 hours a day of brainwashing until they do otherwise.

    12. Re:What an idiot. by Rich0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The idea that the government should "keep people in jail until they change what they believe" is terrifying.

      Agree 100% - what sane person wouldn't? Would I have used the term "brainwashing" if I didn't want you to be terrified?

      No, we should NOT be judging people based on some arbitrary judges imagining whether they are likely to commit a crime in the future. Rehabilitation is a disgusting concept.

      Sure it is a disgusting concept, but so is preying on the innocent, and locking people up forever, perhaps punctuated by letting them out for a few years to let them prey on the innocent until we lock them up again.

      Why do we punish criminals at all? Who are we to decide that spending time to build a car is a legitimate way to obtain a car, and clubbing your neighbor over the head and driving off with their car is an illegitimate way to obtain a car?

      The answer is simple - the former society is one where people actually spend their time creating things. The latter society is one where everybody lives in the dark ages defending their small plot of crops against poachers, pledging their fealty to the local warlord in exchange for "protection."

      Since most people would rather live in a civilized society, it behooves us to take steps to keep society civilized. That basically requires brainwashing everybody from childhood into not doing anything you think you can get away with. Some people's brains seem to be wired in such a way as to make that lesson easier to learn than others, and some parents do a better job of teaching it. One way or another some people just don't get it and when they become adults they become problems. So, we can either treat them like problems for the rest of their lives and either live with them or lock them up anyway, or we can actually try to do something about them.

      Whether you're a nice progressive humanist or a zealot who believe in blowing up the meeting-places of people of the wrong faith, and whether you believe in locking up thieves for six months or cutting off their hands largely depends on how you were brainwashed as a child. Since we're doing it anyway, we might as well do it in a way that results in a society we would want to live in...

  2. Sounds like that prison needs a better by Arancaytar · · Score: 5, Funny

    *sunglasses*

    spammer filter

    YEEEEEEAH

  3. Re:Good for Him by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm glad when anyone manages to escape the US incarceration system, aka "hell on earth".

    US Federal "minimum security" jails are well known "cake walks", just like most European "minimum security" jails. Often the "inmates" can hold down jobs on the outside (returning to jail at night), get fed reasonably good food, and often even take weekends and more extended vacations with relatives.

    Oh yeah, US Federal "minimum security" is a tough game...

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  4. Re:Uh huh huh Kilbride by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    You forgot to allow for the delays in his progress for the times he stops to send unsolicited email to unsuspecting individuals.

  5. Re:You'd figure the guy would by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Maybe in max, but in minimum, he will be sleeping on a bunk bed in a dormitory, with other white collar criminals, or criminals short to the gate. He isn't going to get raped, because that means the rapist is going to wind up getting a prison transfer to a real PMITA prison.

    Federal prisons are not the craptastic private state/local lockups. They are run by the BOP which tends to know what they are doing, because they have top tier funding compared to spotty state money.

    The escapee has gone from the frying pan to the fire. When he is recaptured (and Feds are instrumental in getting their man, as escapes make them look bad), he will not be escaping again... and likely get another ten years added to his sentence... which will be served in a medium to maximum security prison, and these "guests" are people who steal cars over state lines, or violent criminals. Life won't be in a quiet dorm. It will be in a two man cell, perhaps in a pod. He better be damn nice to his cellie unless he wants to sleep with one eye open for the rest of his sentence.

  6. Re:Good for Him by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Informative

    Minimum security prisons no longer as nice as you claim them to be.

    Is that so?

    http://www.askmen.com/fine_living/top_10/13_top_10.html

    Oooo, and look right there: LOMPOC is number 8 on the list...

    Given the perfect climate and time to spend outside, the bars are barely a bother as you plot your corporate comeback. Former home to Ivan Boesky and the Watergate guys, youâ(TM)ll be surrounded by a eucalyptus grove in a great wine region not far from Santa Barbara. Itâ(TM)s a pity the tennis courts were removed as a PR gesture to critics who felt guests at this luxury prison had it too easy, but (the good) life continues with the baseball field and volleyball courts.

    Oh, and this: "Former inmate's description of minimum security Federal prison: sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll..."

    http://boingboing.net/2012/10/23/former-inmates-description-o.html

    Yeah, "Real1/1" Federal minimum security is tough business.

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  7. Re: Good for Him by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Right they should just gas everyone with a 15+ year sentence

    No, we should not be looking at incarceration as the default punishment for crimes. The only people that should be locked up are people that are a physical threat to other people. Anyone else should have an alternative punishment, such as working for victim restitution. No other country locks up as many people as America, and many other countries have lower crime rates.

  8. Re:Going to PMITA prison! by Artifakt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You truly want it to happen...
          You want the less powerful offenders, the non-violent ones, the ones who aren't so dangerous, raped by the most violent and physically dangerous prisoners. You want those already most dangerous ones to get the message that a moderate amount of crime doesn't pay, but pedal to the metal violent overdrive has its perks. You want the guards to have to work around criminals who expect to be bought off with a supply of victims instead of staying in line for fear of more punishment. You want the prisons to be full of racist gangs constantly ready to riot, and using protection from the rapists on the other side as their chief recruiting tool. You want the rapists and murderers in there to get more practice at violence before their inevitable release, more confirmation that violence gets them what they want. You want prison to not be as bad for the worst of the worst, by making it hell for the rest of the people in there.

    Yes, you want it, and now you know, deep inside, that your want has nothing to do with justice.

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  9. Re:Going to PMITA prison! by jones_supa · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nerd rage, the funniest form of rage... ;)