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Illinois Law Grounds PETA Drones Meant To Harass Hunters
schwit1 writes "Illinois passed a new state law that set back the efforts of the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), making the use of drones to interfere with hunters and fishermen prohibited. The law was created in response to PETA's plan to employ drones called "air angels" to monitor outdoors enthusiasts engaged in hunting and fishing nationwide."
Strange - people fishing should be "free" to fish unmonitored... ...people hunting should be "free" to hunt unmonitored... ...people on the Internet should be "free" to be monitored at will...
To me that sounds like future terrorist plots could best be discussed on a hunting trip, because you have the gun lobby ensuring that you'll be undisturbed...
Do I need a license to go drone hunting? or is it just open season? because that sounds like fun! Also, I believe shooting drones stays well within PETAs goals as I wouldn't be shooting animals :)
They're the next gen of skeets!
peta cares about animals (does that mean they don't care about humans?
My experience with PETA is that the only thing they care about is themselves. They've done way more to serve their own smug senses of self-importance than they've ever done to help any animals.
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And even if it did, you've exceeded the daily limit.
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PETA is not a group that anyone should frankly support. PETA is known for terrorist threats and actions against humans and large scale property destruction for the job of destroying animal hospitals and humane societies. PETA makes large statements about how animals have the right to attack humans and will verbally and publicly bash victims of hunting accidents where the animal attacks. PETA should be shut down by the government, they are a nonprofit society that seeks to punish humans with no clear case, cause or rational. Anything PETA seeks to do is to purely hurt humans for the sake of animals, what logical society would do that? If you think I'm blowing smoke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4D1godY4vI
for those shooting them down, they do video-to-phone, and if you shoot one down, these fucks will call the cops,
Let them. A number have been shot down already and when it comes out that the 'fucks' were using the drone to harass people it's really treated no different than if you try to get somebody for property destruction if they cut YOUR lock and chain that YOU put on THEIR bike. IE 'tough shit'.
Not a lawyer of course, mileage will vary by jurisdiction and circumstances, etc...
I don't read AC A human right
Not only that, it's revenue that pays for the parks and wilderness, preserving the habitat of those animals PETA loves so much. If the hunters didn't exist, then neither would the animals because it would all be farmland instead.
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A state government outlawed the use of drones by a private group to harass and/or spy on a group or class of citizens. This can be the basis to extend the law to be against against the use of drones by private individuals, corporations, and businesses to harass, spy, and advertise.
BTW, those who are comparing PETA to the NSA and other government agencies are making a false comparison. PETA is a private organization that would be violating the privacy and personal freedom of people. They are not a governmental agency and most of the governmental agencies in the comments so far do not fall under the jurisdiction of state governments.
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Actually, the way it works is lame. I'm a hunter... There are places you can go where they raise the birds, clip their wings and fence them in. The wings are clipped in such a way that they can fly a "bit" but can really fly off. So they'll still get up when your dog gets on them, but they cant get far. They raise so many that walking through their land pretty much assures you will get some.
Most of the other hunters I know consider this "cheating" because you're basically just shooting Livestock. There are even worse places where they keep the birds caged and just have guys release them to fly so you can pick them out of the sky. Again, totally lame. I'd agree that, if that were the kind of hunt her were on, he wasn't doing much more than using the birds as targets.
Does PETA have a working solution for maintaining a sustainable population of game? Like some type of birth control or are they happy with uncontrolled heards getting bigger and bigger and expanding? Times have changed, there is no longer a natural balance of various wildlife to maintain populations in check. Until some other method of control comes around, PETA has no chance of stopping hunting. Hunting is beneficial in many areas, that is why there are a set number if hunting licenses and specific time frames for each type of game.
I assume PETA believes the wild boars should be able to expand as needed unchecked as well.
My experience with PETA is that the only thing they care about is themselves.
Could you elaborate on your experience with PETA?
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It was so much fun to read about their drones being shot down and PETA's incredulous reactions to it.
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Yeah, these off-topic NSA references sure don't get tiring. Keep 'em coming. We all admire your fresh and on-topic humour. I'm sure somewhere around here Fouad is laughing at your cleverness.
Also the way they put down huge numbers of animals, which on its own might be defensible, but then kinda-sorta argue that there's a moral equivalence between humans and animals.
I fly quad-copters as a hobby. The drone they are selling for $324 is the Parrot Drone AR 2.0. They are basically ripping off their own members, badly, and that drone is the suck anyway. People are going to buy this thing, thinking it will be easy to fly, the video and stills will be garbage. They will never be able to get close enough (165ft range) to the hunters or fishermen to actually use the drone without interfering, and the video will not even be close to good enough to distinguish a beer in someones hand. They would need something like a DJI Phantom2 or the Blade 350qx to even begin to get in the territory of monitoring anything. The blade is over $500 with tax, the DJI is over $1000. Anyone that flies heli's or quads for more than a week knows this is a ROF Laughable joke from the start.
I can. There was a faction of them at my college. Mostly privileged folks with a guilt trip so they flew around the world, crashing through Nicaragua and the Florida Keys and other places they could YOLO about telling the natives not to hunt squirrels. I'm exaggerating only slightly. Mostly they're just idiots. My most recent encounter with them was they're protest over a python hunt in Florida. Pythons are an invasive species in Florida and they're devastating the local environment. Doesn't stop a bunch of the PETA idiots from protesting how they're killed (decapitation, which is the most humane way to kill them).
It is a lot of work, however it isn't the "hunter" who does it. The owner of the "hunting ground" is the one who does it and then charges parties to go out and shoot the animals. Lots of paying jobs are work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canned_hunt
and from that article; doesn't talk about that particular incident, but one a couple of years before:
What kind of dick uses live animals just as targets and kills more than many families could eat in a single session? Dick Cheney does. Which I mean, I have no problem with animal slaughter for food or clothing but, we don't call people who work in slaughterhouses hunters.
"I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
" protesting how they're killed (decapitation, which is the most humane way to kill them)."
By that, I mean the pythons...
peta cares about animals (does that mean they don't care about humans?)
PETA puts animal welfare above that of humans
So they claim, but remember that PETA supporters are the people that call you a monster and mutilator for having your pets spayed and neutered.
Nevermind the fact that spaying and neutering is essential to keeping pet populations in check.
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Yeah what PETA doesn't want to understand is all those animals they think they're going to stop hunters from hunting are going to die of starvation or be torn to shreds by predators if they're not hunted by humans.
The fact is , animals in the wild are going to die horrifying deaths, each of them. It's called "over population" and "predator-prey balance" and hunting seasons are just those season where the predator to prey balance has swung strongly in one direction, meaning there's a lot of prey that's just doomed to violent deaths. This is how uncontested nature operates on populations, and it's ugly.
Death by hunter is neither cruel nor unusual by the measure of what else is available. Some kinds of traps are both cruel and unusual and in fact society BANS those traps, so society actually DOES care about the suffering of animals, suffering which in no way effects any member of society personally, why? because absent other forces, we're just humane, that's all.
It's hard to imagine the amount of growing up people in PETA just haven't done. It entails knowing avoiding learning anything about ecology yet thinking that your personal perception of how it can or ought to be practiced should reign over all established science and expertise.
Frankly, it's disgusting and immoral.
I'm exaggerating only slightly. Mostly they're just idiots
Yeah, I was hoping for a straightforward description. You see, hyperbole was the problem with the original post, your hyperbole isn't any more informative either.
decapitation, which is the most humane way to kill them
Seems to be untrue. Apparently it is an "acceptable" but "not recommended" method.
http://pythonchallenge.org/toolkit/euthanasia.aspx
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As long as I can still use a drone to monitor activity on my own property during hunting season. It would make it safer to look for trespassers and call the sheriff by eliminating the possibility of being "mistaken" for a deer and shot.
Not against hunting, just against hunters shooting on my property.
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What hyperbole? I'm not sure you actually know what the word means.
My experience with animal rights activists has been pretty similar. People with too much privilege to have personal experience with human problems and an utter lack of strategy in pursuing their agenda that results in a bunch of actions that only sound clever to people inside the group, that alienate everyone outside of it, and that more often than not hurt the cause of animal rights by being the worst living strawmen against it.
My law school had an animal rights program that overlapped a lot with the environmental program I was in, and most of the animal rights people were pretty flaky -- harmless and not nearly as self-sabotaging as PETA activists, but prone to stupid things like running around "casing" Asian food markets for sharks fin while all being a bunch of suspicious-acting white people who didn't speak a bit of Chinese and not really realizing the cost of shark's fin vs. the income bracket the stores they went to serviced.
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I wouldn't destroy them... I would just capture them, flash their command set, and sell them on Ebay.
Yeah, most likely the "official" site was modified with those idiotic instructions at the behest of PETA.
No, according to this news report dated Jan 7, 2013 - that was the wording before PETA complained.
These idiots than run around telling people crap because it "sounds right" are the cause of more animal pain than they would admit.
So far, your posts have made a pretty convincing argument the "idiot" here is yourself.
Why is it that all the anti-PETA people must exaggerate and make up stories? Its like you've projected your own problems onto PETA.
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That's just one of many.
Already cited in that other post. It doesn't contradict PETA's claim of being a shelter of last resort. The only actual PETA shelter mentioned on that page went to court and the employees were acquitted of animal cruelty charges. They were convicted of littering though.
That's just one of many.
No, it doesn't seem to be the case. The houston shelter, the florida shelter, the king county shelters, none of them were PETA shelters.
They are human so they aren't perfect, but this claim about them "being fine with killing thousands of animals" just isn't supported by what you've cited nor PETA's own website where they directly address the issue - they decidedly aren't fine with it, they are just trying to make the best out of a bad situation.
By citing someone who engages in the same hyperbolic and lopsided claims that you do you've only weakened your credibility.
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At this point you seem to have given up on your debunked python claims and are now just kind of flailing about, doing poorly researched google searches for something to justify your irrational anger. I think you've pretty much driven your entire case into the ground. In other words, I'm done.
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