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BlackBerry Sues iPhone Keyboard Maker Typo

judgecorp writes "Typo Products, which makes a physical keyboard for the iPhone 5 and 5S is being sued by BlackBerry. The firm — co-founded by media personality Ryan Seacrest — provides an iPhone case which includes a physical keyboard, whose keys are sculpted very like those of a classic BlackBerry phone. 'From the beginning, BlackBerry has always focused on offering an exceptional typing experience that combines a great design with ergonomic excellence. We are flattered by the desire to graft our keyboard onto other smartphones, but we will not tolerate such activity without fair compensation for using our intellectual property and our technological innovations,' said Steve Zipperstein, BlackBerry’s General Counsel and Chief Legal Officer."

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  1. All I can say to that is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    who?

    1. Re:All I can say to that is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Blackberry used to be a maker of devices that at first were glorified pagers, then started becoming phones. They had a good reputation for security, but BIS was demanded to be backdoored by India, and BES, well, just got shoved to the side by Exchange and SSL/TLS connections and Windows Mobile, then subsequently, iOS/Android devices.

    2. Re:All I can say to that is... by multisync · · Score: 4, Insightful

      who?

      Apparently he's a celebrity. Wikipedia says he's a radio personality and hosts a show called American Idol.

      I had to look it up too.

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    3. Re:All I can say to that is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      My xbox controller has a keyboard.. Maybe Blackberry invented that too!

      Unlikely, your Xbox controller has rounded edges, and therefore was invented by Apple.

    4. Re:All I can say to that is... by jellomizer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well for ages, Blackberry owners were raving about the quality of their keyboards, on how easy it was to type on such a small keyboard. Blackberry spent a lot of money and R&D to come up with that style, which also meant a lot of engineers got paid to do such work. Now just because blackberry is unfashionable it doesn't mean that a third party company and just go and steal their ideas. especially after Blackberry put the patent on it.
      I know slashdotters have I HATE PATTENTS mind set. But this isn't a software patent which is covered by Copyright law and Patent law, this is a hardware patent, of a physical invention. Where blackberry deserves credit for their design.

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  2. Typo? by EMG+at+MU · · Score: 4, Funny

    The name of a smartphone keyboard manufacturer is Typo?

    Also, Ryan Seacrest is a founder of the company.

    1. Re:Typo? by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

      The name of a smartphone keyboard manufacturer is Typo?

      Or is it really Tpyo and their publishers keep "correcting" it?

    2. Re:Typo? by thoriumbr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, and you can use it as an excuse when you "mustype" something:
      -It was the keyboard! It's a typo!

  3. If the case goes to trial... by JoeyRox · · Score: 5, Funny

    their attorney will need to spend his entire opening argument introducing the jury to Blackberry phones.

  4. Obviousness by mbstone · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They shamelessly copied the look of the BlackBerry keyboard. So what. The design of a QWERTY keyboard isn't an original work of authorship, nor is it nonobvious, nor are QWERTY keyboards associated with BB in the minds of members of the public.. No copyright, no patent, no trademark.

    Case dismissed.

    BB should buy the thing if it has any money left.

    1. Re:Obviousness by SerpentMage · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not so quick... The design of the BB keyboard is original. If you have ever held one in your hand you would see what I mean. There is a slight pitch and the keys are angled a certain way. I am no fan of BB keyboards, but I can see the attraction by some. This is a blatant copy, and does deserve to be sued. For example this is like Samsung and its phones. They are blatant copies. In contrast look at the Sony Xperia's, or the Nokia's and you see original design.

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    2. Re:Obviousness by msauve · · Score: 4, Informative

      The USPTO disagrees.

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  5. Re:If you can't innovate, litigate... by guytoronto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who says it's their only move? Apple sues others trying to imitate the "Apple experience. Is Apply dying?

  6. Re:Do those things actually sell? by Nerdfest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I used to be like that as well (although never liked the BlackBerry keyboards). Swype on Android changed my mind in a big way.

  7. Patent? by ciurana · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article doesn't clarify if BlackBerry patented the keyboard layout and set up, and whether the patent is still in effect.

    If so, they are well within their rights to enforce it. Typo Products can probably work out a deal with them, et tutti contenti.

    If the patent has expired, or if it was never granted/never filed... suck it, BlackBerry. You should know better.

    Cheers!

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  8. Hmm, that reminds me of something... by rfolkker · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's funny, when the Blackberry Curve came out, I remember thinking of how much the keyboard and layout reminded me of my Treo 600...

    And now, ~10 years later, Blackberry is suing someone for something they didn't even create... I don't see Handspring/Palm/PalmOne having a tiff about it (but then again, maybe if they sued everyone who came out with something more desirable than their product, they might still be around soaking up others' profits...)

    Don't get me wrong. I believe that someone who creates something has a right to profit off of it, without some second-rate hack coming in and stealing the idea out from under them.

    But, seriously, the keyboard design? It wasn't original when it was on the Blackberry, and it still isn't original now that Blackberry is going the way of the dodo.

    1. Re:Hmm, that reminds me of something... by netsavior · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the keyboard they copied isn't the crappy one from the curve, which is a pretty standard smartphone keyboard, and was nothing special to type on... They copied the keyboard from the "Bold" which was the best "narrow" keyboard ever made for a device. The "Typo" is very clearly an EXACT copy of the bold keyboard, right down to the metal trim, color, genius button shape (keys gently raised on one side so you can use keys that are smaller than your fingers, but still have the keys touching).

      They keyboard IS something special, and IS subject to a patent. Is blackberry going to rise from the dead? no. Are they entitled to control the use of their design? I think so. The Typo is clearly a "distinctly blackberry keyboard for your iphone" which isn't really "fair"

  9. Re:What? by Murdoch5 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone who praises the BB10 UI, I don't want to know or develop with. It's multitasking is hardly impressive, I have used a variety of new phones and I can honestly draw the comparison from my own testing. Android blows the Blackberry out of the water, through the roof and through the sky, it's actually very sad.

    As for hiding under buttons and menu's, go into the Hub and press delete without opening a menu, when you can't do that, try to forward a message without going into a menu. If you, as a company, push new mobile innovation, make sure it's amazing and well laid out. BB10 has the chance to become ergonomic and usable but it's going to take a large UI redesign, in the way a user interfaces to the platform, that is what they badly messed up and that is what needs a massive overhaul.

    I know approx, 7 people who raved about Blackberry, were very excited about BB10, were expecting to pick up the Z10 and Q10 and support the company. 6 of them, including my father, hate the Q10 and Z10 so much that they have now cursed the death of Blackberry. My dad's own words, "Fuck this horrible piece of shit, did anyone at the Blackberry even given a second though to the interface!" If you like the phones the cool but I personally, and many I know, hate them. I've heard the platform cursed about 10:1, as in for every 10 people who hate it, 1 likes it.

  10. Re:Not clear what the patent infringement is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    It is all about how the keys look, not that it is a keyboard. The beveling on the keys are made to make it easier to type with your thumbs. I see the novelty in it, but am not sure it should be patentable. Look for yourself:

    http://typokeyboards.com/
    http://www.dogtownmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/blackberry-mobile-acquired.jpg

  11. Re:Do those things actually sell? by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 3, Informative

    I used to be like that as well (although never liked the BlackBerry keyboards). Swype on Android changed my mind in a big way.

    Exact opposite for me. I tried "swyping" for about 30 seconds before purging it from my phone with extreme prejudice. Regular QWERTY on a touchscreen is bad enough. I really want my H/W keyboard back.

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  12. Re:Do those things actually sell? by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, recently used my mother-in-law's phone over the holidays, and I have to say that I abhor the Apple keyboard. The keys always show upper case letters, which comping from somebody who's used to Android, I found this quite annoying. The only difference between "shift" being pressed is whether or not the arrow is filled in, and I can't tell you if filled in arrow means that the shift key is on or off.

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  13. Tech company main sequence by Tough+Love · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Tech company main sequence: start as a brightly shining innovator, make too much money, get mired in politics, run out of ideas, run out of money, collapse into a dark, trollish corporate remnant. Blackberry has officially become the latest troll star.

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