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Pirate Bay Founder's Custody Extended to February 5th

The Pirate Bay co-founder Warg has been held in solitary confinement since being turned over by Sweden to Denmark in December. Yesterday, he appeared in a closed court session where the judge ordered he continue to be held until at least February 5th. From the article: "In an attempt to free the Swede, or at least improve his circumstances, a petition was launched recently, directed at the Danish Prime Minister. Initially there were only a few hundred backers but when a banner was added to the homepage of The Pirate Bay this quickly grew to more than 50,000. Among other things, the petition demands that Gottfrid is given free access to books and other reading material." Although kept from computers and books, he is at least no longer being held in solitary confinement as of last week.

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  1. COMMENT TITLE SUBJECT DESCRIPTION INFORMATION by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

    Captured Al-Qaida operatives probably look at him and go "Whew, I'm glad I'm not THAT guy!"

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    1. Re:COMMENT TITLE SUBJECT DESCRIPTION INFORMATION by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Indeed, Al Qaeda operatives when captures are allowed access to music, including The Clash, Britney Spears, Rage Against the Machine, Metallica, and others.

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  2. Well yeah by Stargoat · · Score: 5, Funny

    You absolutely need to keep him from books. Good God, the man could copy/steal Pride and Prejudice and post it to a website! Or he could read the Daily Telegraph and learn how poorly Manchester United is doing.

    For the love of Pete. Has this American sickness infected everyone?

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    1. Re:Well yeah by sjames · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your claim that you're either a violent revolutionary anarchist or you are the oppressor is a false dichotomy, but thanks for playing.

    2. Re:Well yeah by umafuckit · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well, you could always get a bunch of your friends together, storm the prison, and free him yourself.

      You don't need a bunch of friends, just a helicopter: http://www.badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=29600886975

    3. Re:Well yeah by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      That has to be the most awesomely written account of kick-ass events I've ever seen, and I thank you for bringing it to my attention.

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    4. Re:Well yeah by skegg · · Score: 3, Insightful

      no, they just locked him up alone

      And you're being particularly obtuse. Solitary confinement has historically been used as a way of punishing prisoners, and only ever for short periods.
      X0563511 is correct: the state should foot the bill of posting a guard at his door.

      Further reading: Solitary Confinement
      The opening paragraph says it all.

    5. Re:Well yeah by Zumbs · · Score: 2

      For the love of Pete. Has this American sickness infected everyone?

      This one is more like a Danish sickness festering. The sad reality is that Denmark has been a habitual user solitary confinement of suspects for a long time. A long time both in terms of how long it has been used (the first explicit rules on its use came in 1978) as well as the duration of solitary confinement: Often it will last until the trial is over, a long time after the actual investigation has ended. Sometimes suspects are confined in solitary for more than a year. Fortunately, it seems that the solitary confinement is over for Gottfrid.

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  3. The books thing seems a bit harsh. by tlambert · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The books thing seems a bit harsh.

    PS: If you locked me away without books for 3 months, I'd probably come out of it as a supervillian, bent on wreaking vengeance on society. I'm just saying.

    1. Re:The books thing seems a bit harsh. by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yes, that's exactly why "solitary confinement" is the closest thing to brutal torture most modern societies will inflict. Vile mental punishment.

      WTF has this guy done to anger the authorities to such an extent? Do American corporations really have such reach? I doubt that - makes me wonder what the rest of the story is.

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  4. EU human rights court by EMG+at+MU · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe after the EU human rights court gets done listening to Snowden they can take a look inwards at their own terrible examples of not respecting human rights.

    Puting a guy in solitary because he ran a file sharing website? God in Wisconsin you can drive drunk and your first offence is just a traffic ticket. You can kill people driving drunk, I don't understand why we punish guys who threaten profits more than guys who threaten lives.

    1. Re:EU human rights court by Narcocide · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

      Human life must be practically valueless compared to corporate profits.

    2. Re:EU human rights court by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Please understand that is not because of Piratebay!
      He's accused of hacking the danish social security numbers and drivers license database.

    3. Re:EU human rights court by TangoMargarine · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Gee, isn't that convenient.

      I nominate "assange" as a new verb, "to be suddenly charged with other heinous crimes while wanted for impeding corporate profits, especially while outside legal jurisdiction."

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  5. Solitary Confinement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So he gets the same treatment as mass murderers? Clearly the copyright barons have 1) swung the pendulum to have copyright last far longer than is reasonable (20 years, 1 generation, is reasonable, forever is what we have now), and 2) they have corrupted anyone they deal with into 'going along' with their 'forever copyright, infinite profits, infinite fines and jail' mentality.

    1. Re:Solitary Confinement? by phorm · · Score: 2

      No, in some ways he gets worse treatment than mass-murderers. They, at least, are allowed to have books to read.

  6. this is all just a big misunderstanding. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    sweden: ok Denmark here ya go. Finland, tell Denmark This hooligan is wanted for pirating everything from independence day to terminator.
    finnish translator relays information
    Denmark: Jesus Christ this guys the Terminator and hes trying to destroy our independence?!
    Finnish translator:....perkele.....

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  7. Solitary confinement is standard practice by johnjaydk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If you and a mate steals a couple of bicycles, only you get nicked and don't rat on the mate immediately then it's solitary for you pal.

    Standard practice in Denmark and it's a fucking disgrace. Amnesty International have been all over this for years but without any results. Makes us look like a bunch of savages.

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    1. Re:Solitary confinement is standard practice by xaxa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Here's a link for anyone else interested in further information on this: http://www.humanityinaction.org/knowledgebase/323-solitary-confinement-a-threat-to-denmark-s-credibility

  8. Nothing to do with TPB or copyright infringement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Gottfried is charged for hacking the largest financial service in northern Europe. He claims being a victim of malware on his personal pc.
    Generally speaking the Scandinavian countries has one of the most fair justice systems in the world.

  9. charges? by kervin · · Score: 5, Informative

    According the the petition link in the summary ( I know it's a lot to ask that you read it ), these accusations were dropped. And he isn't charged with anything currently.

  10. Re:Nothing to do with TPB or copyright infringemen by FriendlyLurker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Generally speaking the Scandinavian countries has one of the most fair justice systems in the world.

    That may have been the case several decades ago. That is defiantly no longer the case, especially in Swedens case - they have fallen far and fast.

  11. Why put this guy in Solitary at all? by LordZardoz · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Solitary Confinement is the sort of thing that should only be used for the following reasons:

      - The inmate is dangerous to both other inmates and to the prison staff
      - The inmate is guilty of crimes that call for very harsh punitive measures, but execution is not an option
      - The inmate is being punished for rules infractions in prison (in which case solitary should be used for a limited time).

    You need to have solitary confinement as an option to punish an inmate, otherwise the inmate may become uncontrolable. If your in prison and have no chance to ever be released, then why not stab that annoying cellmate / guard? They cannot keep you locked up for 2 life times. Solitary is the 'things can still get worse' measure.

    The guy who created pirate bay is guilty of copyright infringement. I am going to assume he is not a threat to himself or others. So what basis is there for dropping him in solitary confinement?

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  12. Nazi war criminals were treated better by cpm99352 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I posted this the last time this topic arose. Whereas Warg has not yet faced trial (thus guilt in doubt), convicted war criminal Albert Speer had access to books (and was allowed to write) after being convicted. Fascinating difference in treatment.

    1. Re:Nazi war criminals were treated better by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 2

      Not fascinating, obvious. Speer was an elite who was captured by other elites. This guy is a nobody, and he's receiving the correct treatment for attempting to pretend he was a fellow elite. Also congratulations for working Godwin's Law in there.

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