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Kazakh Professor Claims Solution of Another Millennium Prize Problem
An anonymous reader writes "Kazakh news site BNews.kz reports that Mukhtarbay Otelbaev, Director of the Eurasian Mathematical Institute of the Eurasian National University, is claiming to have found the solution to another Millennium Prize Problems. His paper, which is called 'Existence of a strong solution of the Navier-Stokes equations' and is freely available online (PDF in Russian), may present a solution to the fundamental partial differentials equations that describe the flow of incompressible fluids for which, until now, only a subset of specific solutions have been found. So far, only one of the seven Millennium problems was solved — the Poincaré conjecture, by Grigori Perelman in 2003. If Otelbaev's solution is confirmed, not only it might be the first time that the $1 million offered by the Clay Millennium Prize will find a home (Perelman refused the prize in 2010), but also engineering libraries will soon have to update their Fluid Mechanic books."
Oh no. Textbook publishers HATE having to do that....
'more that', instead of 'more that'
So much irony it is delicious...
If it is such an important article, why did he not find someone to translate it to English? He did get some related papers published in English. It seems that those are about approximations. Interesting non the less.
Aren't you missing a "sarcasm" tag?
It's P=NP, you insensitive clod!
I think you're confusing science with technology and engineering.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
Clearly both P and N are 1.0
"His name was James Damore."
No, it's P!=NP.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
(I refuse to believe that we've wasted our time on the alternate solution, which is nothing)
"His name was James Damore."
or P=0
Great, like the college text books need another reason to come out with a re-write for next year.
In his bio it is claimed that he found explicit formulas for n-particle motion in the space (in the framework of Einstein’s relativity theory). If that would be true, I guess it would have be known in the rest of the world as well, if he had.
great. another reason for "oh, you need to buy new textbooks for the class this semester".
Sleep your way to a whiter smile...date a dentist!
I don't really know what's involved, but if there's a textbook that teaches you how to be a fluid mechanic, I am sure that's for me!
Eurasian National University?
I thought 1984 was fiction...
Overcompensating .... I guess he's still angry about that Baron Cohen Movie.
If solving one of the Millennium Prize problems is a form of "overcompensating" then I'm all for it.
Can we get somebody to overcompensate with fusion power too?
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
What you describe is technology that becomes possible *after* most of the research has been done.
Scientific discovery is and always has been made by state-sponsored research institutions, be that in a free market society or the former USSR. There are only very few exceptions.
The USSR had outstanding scientists, but their production facilities weren't always up to the task.
Otelbaev has published in some very respected journals, and trained with the very top people. His work is worth serious scrutiny. Of course, it is easy, even for the most brilliant scholars, to make a mistake which makes it look as if a big problem has fallen. Skepticism, but no mockery, please.
Kind of butt-ironic then they often aped capitalist rewards by giving housing upgrades and other goodies to scientists who made a mark on the world stage, much like Olympic athletes.
They are dancing people, singing for their supper for dictators who have artificially restricted the market for maximum control...of political opponents.
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
...mathematics, but real fluids are compressible, viscous and varying properties. Let's see how far his approach extends and how closed the answers are. Fluid mechanics text book publishers will probably give him a few paragraph boxes or pages for history and theoretical stuff. Then back to the classic stuff.
You can solve minor physics problems starting in their relavistic form, but most engineers still use Newtonian physics.
Yes because Soviet Russia has contributed so much to hard science: Nuclear technology... stolen from the US, rocket technology... stolen from Germany, microchip design... stolen from Intel, Space Shuttle design... stolen from NASA. Oh wait, they stole nearly all of their technology from the west. The free market has been proven time and again as the best incubator for scientific discovery and innovation. It's too bad you let your liberal professors shove your head so far up your posterior. You might want to do some research and educate yourself on the facts of who has done what for scientific discovery.
What a bunch of bullshit. And the worst is /. modding your post insightful.
Do I need to remind you that most of scientific advances in post WW2 in the US were due to german scientists and german technology pilfered by the Americans ? Of course the Soviets pilfered Germany also.
The Soviet school of mathematics pre and post WW2 was much more productive than the american one. Soviet physics and engineering were also nothing to sneer at. Americans look at Soviet science and technology the same way they looked at the Japanese pre WW2. Monkeys incapable of doing anything. Hoorah for american exceptionalism.
Fuck you and your us navel gazing ideology.
It has been up and running for over 15 years. Is there some problem?
"Stratigraphically the origin of agriculture and thermonuclear destruction will appear essentially simultaneous" -- Lee
"To each according to his contribution" is a core tenet of Socialism, not "aping Capitalism." Paying people more for greater labors is not the defining aspect of Capitalism --- rather, it's whether people are allowed to use their money to control the labor of others and accumulate an ever-growing cut for themselves without working (a Capitalist class who gets richer as a reward for being rich, while controlling the work/lives of the majority). None of the former Soviet-bloc countries considered themselves to be at the "full-blown Communism" stage, where abundant goods were distributed to all regardless of work input. "Socialism," as defined in the Marxist framework with an end goal of Communism, is in no way contradictory with paying hard workers more (but for their own use/enjoyment, not for authority over other people Capitalism-style).
I take exception to the use of the word "Claim" here. I never see this used for American or Western professionals?
In fact here on Slashdot we have a story about "Cheshire Cat" observations by a group and "Claim" wasn't used there.
You (Slashdot) are being highlighted for your stereotypes and western aligned views again.
Director of the Eurasian Mathematical Institute of the Eurasian National University
Kazakhstan and all the 'stans' are in Asia. Why do they have to pretend to be associated w/ Europe by using the term 'Eurasian'? The only 2 Eurasian countries that exist are the Russian Federation and Turkey. Russia since west of the Urals is Europe and east of it is Asia. Turkey since Anatolia is in Asia while the East Thrace part of the country is in Europe.
But none of the other countries are 'Eurasian'. Georgia and Armenia might be considered European, since they culturally have little in common w/ the Asiatic countries nearest them - Iran, Turkey or any of the Arab countries south of them. Azerbaijan is tightly connected to both Iran & Turkey, and so are the 'stans'. As a result, all 6 of those countries are Asiatic countries, as opposed to 'Eurasian' or 'European'. Why are they so reluctant to admit it?
He just wanted to know the revenue model. Even the concept of car has been working for over 100 years and still people ask the question "how does a car work?".
Personally, I choose to neither block not disable the ads. This is a part of my support for Slashdot.
OTOH, I also don't have Flash installed, and Java is disabled in my browser. Because I'm not stupid.
I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
"To each according to his contribution" is a core tenet of Socialism.
I call BS on this. If it were true socialist countries wouldn't provide welfare to people who sit on their asses and contribute nothing.
That's a bit passive aggressive. Becoming a mathematics genius Just so you can solve Millenium problems and then refuse the prize money.
I should use this sig to advertise my book ISBN-13 : 978-1501515132.
"To each according to his contribution" is a core tenet of Socialism. I call BS on this. If it were true socialist countries wouldn't provide welfare to people who sit on their asses and contribute nothing.
Yeah, it's almost as if all those countries that are labeled by Fox News as "Socialist" aren't actually socialist.
Nah, couldn't be. Fox News hosts are infallible.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
Mate, you're skirting dangerously into crackpot territory. Quoting James Gleick as a scientific authority is demented. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but you're on thin ice. I'll assume that you have a specific form of differentiability with respect to a particular set of parameters in mind, which you didn't detail to us. Certainly, you're not helping yourself with statements such as "obvious to even the smallest child", "read for once in your life" etc.
China has a plan to build it fleet to include at least 4 aircraft carriers. China's first carrier battle group recently did a photo op, sailing in formation. In effect they were announcing to the world, "We've arrived."
India just took possession of a third aircraft carrier. Japan has just built its largest "destroyer" since World War 2, one that can carry aircraft. I won't be surprised if it builds more, especially given China's aggressive behavior. Britain is building 2 new large carriers. The aircraft carrier hasn't gone out of style net, and won't for quite some time to come.
You should also be clear, the majority of Federal spending in the US is on social welfare programs, not on defense.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
The post states that the paper "is claiming to have found the solution to another Millennium Prize Problems" while the article's title is “Existence of a strong solution of the Navier-Stokes equations". By my interpretation, the paper is claiming to show the existence of strong solutions (that is, solutions satisfying the Navier-Stokes equations in non-Weak Form subjected to some set of boundary data) not a general (or any) solution, in particular. While the proof of existence is the Millennium Prize if the proof includes smoothness (continuity after some degree of differentiation), the fact of whether or not these solutions exist is irrelevant to most (if any) Fluid Mechanics texts and engineers/modelers.
The post also states that the Navier-Stokes is "fundamental [set of] partial differentials equations that describe the flow of incompressible fluids"; this is true if all the physical parameters (density, viscosity, and pressure) are taken as constants such that an equation-of-state and energy equation are not needed. However, if they are not assumed constant, the Navier-Stokes equations also perfectly describe the flow of compressible fluids if equipped with an energy equation, an equation-of-state, and other constitutive relations as needed. The only rub comes in when dealing with a fluid that is either not a contiguous field (such as fluids that break-up when immersed in another or, in some cases, a fluid undergoing phase change) or a fluid that does not obey the Stokes Hypothesis (an extension of the idea of a Newtonian fluid to multiple dimensions) which is used as a constitutive relation for the stress tensor in the Navier-Stokes equations.
Defense / Social welfare the money is going to the same guys in the end. The same guys that are on the boards of Boeing and Raytheon are the same guys who are running the citys social welfare programs to ensure everyone can afford to live in a subsidized apartment complex that they happen to have stake in. I don't see the USA building any more carriers largely because the same people that run the defense and social welfare agencies also have houses and bank accounts in China, India, Sweeden, etc.. It is one world order, and the powers that be do not want a war, because that is bad for business. Relatively small wars like Afganistan and Iraq are good because there is enormous profit to be made off of war racketeering. However fighting a serious enemy would be a big no no.
Except that even that isn't largely true. Yes, it's true that the US heavily relied on German rocket scientists to build up its space program. What's *not* true is the concept that the Soviets did the same. The US actively sought out and brought to the US almost all high-level German rocket scientists after the war during Operation Paperclip, as well as over 100 V2s. The Soviets got almost nobody of significance (Helmut Gröttrup being the only noteworthy exception), and mainly only got line technicians and captured papers/drawings. What's more, for the most part, they didn't actively involve them in their programs - they interrogated them heavily, and once they were satisfied that they knew everything that they knew, they sent them back. Most were dismissed within a year, and by 1951, there were no longer any Germans at all within Soviet rocketry program (although the remaining ones were held for a few years after that to avoid intelligence transfer).
The real quote should be, "Our German rocket scientists are better than your Soviet scientists whose non-domestic contribution is largely limited to data from old documents and lower-level Germans involved in rocketry."
"'If one must live then one must die.' - oh, the truth must be funnier than this..." -- MammÃt
The US as several more carriers planned, and that hasn't stopped yet.
I think your view of common defense firm board membership along with slum-lord apartment complex ownership among a common multi-national global super-elite that has decreed no more big wars isn't one that is well rooted in reality.
We are far from a "one-world order."
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Social Security and Medicare are not budget items, they're trust items. People have paid into them, and are allowed to take their portions back out. The Pentagram budget is the single largest discretionary budget item by far. Add in the alphabet soup of intel agencies and the utterly unconstitutional Black Budget and it's an even larger percentage. It's depressing that it is actually illegal for taxpayers to know how much of their money the military is wasting.
"Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
Prior to WWII the Soviets were second only the the Germans in rocket technology, while Goddard was stuck out in the desert begging rich New Yorkers for drips and drabs of funding.
"Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
Crap. How the heck did this post get up here? Meant to reply to someone lower in the thread.
"Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
I don't mind, it is an interesting post. ;)
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
How is Social Security financed?
About 96 percent of workers must pay a certain amount of their paycheck, generally 6.2 percent, into the system, an amount that is matched by their employers. (Some state and local workers don’t participate in Social Security.)
This results in a 12.4 percent tax on income, as most economists would agree that the full amount is taken from the worker’s wage compensation.
Social Security is a pay-as-you-go system, which means that payments collected today are immediately used to pay benefits. Until recently, more payments were collected than were needed for benefits. So, Social Security loaned the money to the U.S. government, which used it for other things. In exchange, Social Security receives interest-bearing Treasury securities. The value of those bonds is now nearly $2.8 trillion.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Or the elusive -0.
Nonsense, Capitalism is the premise that business people will all cheat to make a buck, that this is harmful to investment, and that if a neutral third party (the Government) regulates in certain ways to create a level playing field, then Capital is free to flow, and the economy is based around where people want Capital to flow. Whereas prior, in an unregulated economy, established interests will almost always conspire against newcomers, and new capital won't flow at all into an industry unless somebody has some sort of new political control over part of the process.
Marx took the basic premise straight from Adam Smith, that if two business people drink in the same pub, by the end of the evening you have collusion; and completely ignored Smith's remedy. Instead, he made up a fresh remedy, involving a wide variety of radical changes to every part of people's lives. Once you understand the distribution of traits, you can understand it is mathematically, physically, statistically impossible for a society to agree to all these changes; it can only be by force, just because people will want different things. In that sort of environment, there will not be an abundance of goods to distribute. Morale will be low, it has to be low, because genes are distributed in a certain broad natural way. So it can very much be end-stage, "full-blown Communism" and still have a lot of suffering. That is why the places where "Communism" works are the places where it is actually a mixed economy, like China, Vietnam, Cuba. China tried real Communism and it sucked.
Right. They don't. Generally Democracies are where that happens. In Socialist countries people who sit on their asses and contribute nothing go to the gulag as hooligans. From Each According to His Ability! If you truly had no ability, you would also have no value. But everybody has some ability. If you do nothing, you're a hooligan, you're anti-social.
search on ted foe the 19 year old graduating from high school who is switching his focus from the last time he gave a ted talk about fusion at 14 to his new interest and business venture fission.
That's the quote for communism, not socialism. Socialism is "to each according to his contribution/work". The communist form decouples your needs and your abilities in a way that socialism does not.