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Extinct Species of Early Human Survived On Grass Bulbs, Not Meat

Philip Ross writes "Fresh analysis of an extinct relative of humans suggests our ancient ancestors dined primarily on tiger nuts, which are edible grass bulbs, settling a discrepancy over what made up prehistoric diets. According to a new study published in the journal PLOS One, the strong-jawed ancient hominin known as Paranthropus boisei, nicknamed 'Nutcracker Man,' which roamed East Africa between 2.4 million and 1.4 million years ago, survived on a diet scientists previously thought implausible."

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  1. What's next - tiger penis? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    But aren't tiger nuts an animal .... product?

  2. Tiger nuts? Not meat? by erroneus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Come on... it's funny and you know it.

    But okay. Humanoids who didn't eat meat, didn't make the evolutionary cut.

    Take THAT "vegetarians."

  3. Extinct species survived by c0lo · · Score: 4, Funny

    seem to me they didn't survive well enough

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  4. Re:And that's why they're extinct by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If they're extinct, then they didn't survive on anything, did they?

  5. Re:Tiger nuts? Not meat? by TemperedAlchemist · · Score: 4, Informative

    The paleo movement is frustrating for anthropologists. Humans ate pretty much whatever they could get their grubby little hands on: meat, nuts, edible leaves, roots, fruit, etc. We did eat quite a bit of plants, though. Mostly because they didn't run away.

    Vegans who insist we're herbivores are equally frustrating, however.

  6. Re:They foraged for 2-3 hours per day by c0lo · · Score: 5, Funny

    What did they do with the rest of their day?

    Not (enough) sex, otherwise they wouldn't be extinct

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  7. Re:Tiger nuts? Not meat? by elfprince13 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Indeed. Humans are the best long distance runners on the planet, and we evolved that way so that we could chase our prey until they died of exhaustion.

  8. Re:They foraged for 2-3 hours per day by rmdingler · · Score: 3, Funny
    Extinct, you say?

    Whew.

    If the prerequisite hurdle for reproduction includes a steady diet of tiger nuts, I, for one, an quite certainly glad those bad motherfskerers aren't around to compete with for mates.

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  9. Not an ancestor by Somebody+Is+Using+My · · Score: 5, Informative

    A somewhat minor nitpick, but...

    It is generally thought that Paranthropus bosei is an /offshoot/ of the line that ultimately led to modern man, not a direct ancestor. We share ancestors, but do not descend from his line. The two lines diverged about 3 million years ago to follow their own evolutionary paths - homo towards an omnivorous diet and world domination, panthropus to munching on nuts and extinction.

    He was a relative, not an ancestor.

    1. Re:Not an ancestor by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A somewhat minor nitpick, but...

      It is generally thought that Paranthropus bosei is an /offshoot/ of the line that ultimately led to modern man, not a direct ancestor. We share ancestors, but do not descend from his line. The two lines diverged about 3 million years ago to follow their own evolutionary paths - homo towards an omnivorous diet and world domination, panthropus to munching on nuts and extinction.

      He was a relative, not an ancestor.

      Plus it is pretty iffy to base too many conclusions on a handful of skeletons (or in the case of such old homonids it's usually skeletal fragments). If archaeologists of the future only had five 20th century human skeletons available that were all found in the general area that used to be New York they might conclude that most humans of the 20th century were over weight and lived off a meat rich diet. If those five skeletons came from the horn of Africa they would conclude that during the 20th century the human race suffered from frequent famines. If the five skeletons came from the graveyard of a vegan colony they'd conclude humans of the 20th century were predominantly vegan. If the discoveries in Dmanisi, Georgia have taught us anything it is that one should not base too many sweeping conclusions on a handful of samples.
      http://rt.com/news/skull-homo-georgia-species-373/

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    2. Re:Not an ancestor by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You only need to go back 200 years before we had anything like modern refrigeration and the food had to be very fresh and very local. Most people were subsistance farmers, meaning they primarily ate what they produced. If you had game, you ate game and if you didn't, you didn't. If you had a river or lake nearby with fish you ate fish, if not you didn't. If barley grew better than wheat, you ate barley. Your diet was defined by your surroundings.

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  10. Re:They foraged for 2-3 hours per day by arashi+no+garou · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They survived 1,000,000 years. We've been going at it for 200,000 years or so, and we're constantly at risk of killing ourselves off en masse. I'd say they did a lot better than we are doing on the species survival front.

  11. Re:Tiger nuts? Not meat? by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Indeed. Humans are the best long distance runners on the planet, and we evolved that way so that we could chase our prey until they died of exhaustion.

    I thought we evolved that way so that Reebok could sell us new shoes. Huh.

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  12. When we are extinct by jafiwam · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We will be said to have dined primarily on high fructose corn syrup.

    Somehow I think there's going to be some big holes in what they actually do "know" about what those folks ate.

  13. Re:They foraged for 2-3 hours per day by Nidi62 · · Score: 5, Funny

    What did they do with the rest of their day?

    Probably proselytize to their meat-eating neighbors about how their vegetarian diet is superior.

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  14. Re:Tiger nuts? Not meat? by JanneM · · Score: 5, Funny

    Humans are the best long distance runners on the planet, and we evolved that way so that we could chase our prey until they died of exhaustion.

    You wouldn't believe the stamina of an onion on the chase. No wonder our forefathers could run so well.

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  15. Re:A blow to vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You mean vegans, more precisely. Vegetarians usually (not always) eat animal products which do not involve slaughter of the animal, such as eggs & cheese -- both of which supply B12. The body only needs an extremely small ammount of B12, the smallest amount of any vitamin.

    Anyhow, until vegans evolve away from the requirement for B12, or go extinct, it's really not hard for them to get enough from commonly B12 fortified products. Much tofu, nutritional yeast, and other common vegan ingredients are fortified with non-animal sources of B12.

  16. Re:A blow to vegetarians by guises · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You seem to be implying that meat consumption means that you don't have to pay attention to what you eat. Really, it just seems like your girlfriend was more conscientious about her diet than you were. Which maybe isn't that surprising - being vegan implies that you're paying attention to what you eat.

  17. Re:I object by bruce_the_loon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Since your comment history strongly suggests you are American and the study was carried out by paleoanthropologists from Oxford University, I can safely say you have no need to be concerned about your tax dollars funding this research.

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  18. Re:Tiger nuts? Not meat? by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I sit in front of my computer all day, too, but I've never had a weight problem. If anything, I have a problem keeping it on. Of course, I drink water all day rather than soda, and when I eat at a restaurant I usually take half the meal home because it's just way too much food.

    As to the anonymous idiot you responded to who said "Man's eyes were not evolved to read computer screens and mankind's fingers were not evolved to used keyboards," what a moron. Computer screens and keyboards were designed to work with the fingers and eyes we evolved. HFCS wasn't.

  19. Re:Tiger nuts? Not meat? by Larryish · · Score: 4, Funny

    I dreamed I was a dinosaur
    A mighty fearsome beast
    All day I'd run and hunt for fun
    On weaker beasts I'd feast

    Then I thought "I am a man,
    the fiercest beast of all"
    And then I went and hunted down
    A giant pretzel at the mall.

  20. Re:They foraged for 2-3 hours per day by TheloniousToady · · Score: 3, Funny

    They scrawled graffiti on public rocks. We humanoids haven't evolved much since then.

  21. Re:A blow to vegetarians by dugancent · · Score: 4, Interesting

    True. My girlfriend is vegan and she takes B12 supplements, which is fine by me. The way I see it, it's much more environmentally friendly to produce a B12 tablet then it is to grow, slaughter and cook an animal.

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  22. Re:A blow to vegetarians by stenvar · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can get B12 from fermented foods, milk products, eggs, and algae. In fact, it's not even produced by animals, only by bacteria.

  23. Re:A blow to vegetarians by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    B12 is produced by bacteria in fermentation tanks and then ends up in tablets for vegans to eat, and in animal feed for farm animals to eat. The B12 you get from meat comes from the same exact place as the stuff in tablets.

    There are actually no essential nutrients created by animals.

  24. Re:Tiger nuts? Not meat? by hawkinspeter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    However, humans do seem to be adapted for something like persistence hunting. Our ability to run long distances in the hot African midday sun would soon cause an antelope to drop dead of heat exhaustion probably way before they got to be 20 miles away. Our lack of thick hair and sweating ability do point towards a remarkable ability to withstand heat. Also, animals running tend to loop in a large circle rather than travelling a long distance.

    And, I'm not a runner (although I do a load of cycling which is also endurance based).

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  25. Re:Birmingham, England is NOT in India. by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Funny

    In England, people typically don't eat penises.

    It must be this little fact that accounts for the high divorce rate. It's the French, who fuck with their faces, and fight with their feet... ;-)

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  26. Re:Tiger nuts? Not meat? by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Persistence hunting is impossible in anything but big open fields

    Like, say, the open savanna where homo sapiens evolved?

    (nobody's dragging an antelope back 20 miles)

    If your hunting party has any strategy, you won't chase it those 20 miles in a straight line.

    Humans get foot injuries easily.

    Humans who have worn shoes all their lives get foot injuries easily.

  27. Re:They foraged for 2-3 hours per day by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    57 million people died during WWII, yet the Earth finished it with 20 million more people than it started with.

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  28. Re:Tiger nuts? Not meat? by cusco · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Go stand in the sun near the equator for an hour, or run through elephant grass, or move through a thicket, and then tell me if you're still of the same opinion. Clothes are not only for the cold.

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  29. Re:Tiger nuts? Not meat? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Ask a sprinter how'd he'd fare being chased by a group of marathoner's for a day or two that had spears. Their endurance wouldn't last. Now put him in a fur coat and take away his sweat glands.

    You know, this is why Mom won't let us play with you any more.