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Google Confirms Shut Down of Schemer
An anonymous reader writes "Google has confirmed it is shutting down its goal sharing service Schemer. The company says Schemer's last day will be February 7, after which all data will be permanently deleted. The iOS app has already been pulled from Apple's App Store while the Android app on Google Play hasn't been updated since October 2012."
Google what?
If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough. (Alan Kay)
How long until they shut down Google Plus? Please tell me it's soon.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
I never heard of thisbut now that I have it looks intresting
People once told me 68K ram was all we needed,
Google what now?
You'd think for a company like GOOGLE, they'd, you know, ADVERTISE their products.
I've literally never heard of this at all and I could name everything that was on Google Labs and the More page that lists "all" their services. (which are pretty damn hidden too, no wonder nobody bloody used them!)
ADVERTISE YOUR SHIT, GOOGLE.
If it doesn't generate advertising revenue, Google will kill it.
Google's news archives recently went away. Google Scholar is a likely next candidate for the chopping block.
I'm worried about Google buying all those robotics companies. Profitability in advanced robotics is probably 5-10 years away. Google has not, in the past, demonstrated that kind of patience. "More wood behind fewer arrows" was their slogan for the first big round of cuts. Google could destroy the US robotics industry.
Well, unless it's based on a a free, open protocol that you can host yourself if required.
Something about Google today makes me want to run to Microsoft's arms. At a time I even entertained the idea of working (well, seriously applying) for Google, when life situation would allow relocating. But something has gone sour, like milk. First there was just something in the taste, now it seems there are clumps in it already. Wave. Reader. Insistence of linking everything together in ways I am not comfortable with. This. Soon Scholar?
Who in their right mind is going to make any kind of investment (of time and effort) into any of Google's future stuff? Not me.
Well, unless it's based on a a free, open protocol that you can host yourself if required.
And you can easily get your data out of the system. Because if you cannot get your data, you cannot host it elsewhere.
The Tao of math: The numbers you can count are not the real numbers.
Raises hand.
My last company decided to Googleize just as I was leaving. The VeeP who set it in motion had a list of services he wanted. Thing is, we already provided nearly everything he wanted and none of the things he wanted were unique to Google's offerings. Even back then, there was a pretty significant list of services that Google had shut down and it was clear that it would be risky to heavily integrate anything beyond docs and email into our business practices. I have no idea how it turned out because my last day was in the middle of the transition.
I had only heard of it because I found the iTunes page where they list all of the apps by Google. There are a couple others most people have never heard of there.
On the other hand, kudos to Google for not using their dominance in mail, search, Android and other services/products for trying to push Schemer down the throats of their users. They had a product, it didn't fly on its own, it's OK for it to die. Which is not what other companies are doing with bloatware software on phones, tablets and laptops. Nobody got a killer app by doing this and the people at Google seem to realize this.
Google in many ways looks like Microsoft of the early 2000s. It has lots of bright people, lots of money, and has an enormous range of products that make no money while being sustained by one monopoly product that makes incredible money. It was lucky enough to be the Last Big Thing before Apple hit top gear and it's desperate to find the Next Big Thing before it falls behind.
In its approach to products, however, Google is more accurately the ANTI-Apple. Apple starts from "what do customers need?" and ruthlessly eliminates everything but the purest core product that meets that customer need. Apple focuses on a tiny number of things that people want and does them as perfectly as it can within the time it has at a price that no competitor can match.
Google on the other hand starts from "what cool shit can we do and how can we make money out of it?" "Hey employees, spend 20% of your time brainstorming cool stuff, we'll see if we can use that shit". Google then dribbles ALL OF THAT SHIT out - not launches, dribbles - in broken half-finished beta versions and then waits to see if anything works. Google has no product focus and just has a nonstop conveyor belt of "cool shit" projects coming out the door - Answers, Jotbot, Jaiku, Notebook, Sidewiki, Gears, Wave, Buzz, etc etc etc - that die because they are technically nifty solutions to problems that nobody actually has. Even when something potentially cool like Google+ comes off the production line it's fighting an uphill battle from day one - is fundamentally crippled - because no thought has been given to how people will actually use it.
The complaints do end up lining up one after another in the comments section. So both "cue" and "queue" work.
The resulting thread is exasperating and could take us anywhere, so Q (like on Star Trek) also works.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
You know they're just gonna roll it into G+ don't you?
That's how they'll try and monetize it
Watch those corners
Well, unless it's based on a a free, open protocol that you can host yourself if required.
And you can easily get your data out of the system. Because if you cannot get your data, you cannot host it elsewhere.
That part at least is something that Google does put some work into. You can use Google Takeout to get quite a bit back, in a form you may conceivably use elsewhere. Not sure about Schemer specifically though.
Raises hand.
My last company decided to Googleize just as I was leaving. The VeeP who set it in motion had a list of services he wanted. Thing is, we already provided nearly everything he wanted and none of the things he wanted were unique to Google's offerings. Even back then, there was a pretty significant list of services that Google had shut down and it was clear that it would be risky to heavily integrate anything beyond docs and email into our business practices. I have no idea how it turned out because my last day was in the middle of the transition.
Generally though, most companies struggle to compete with the reliability of Google offerings.
Also, they only seem to shut down side projects that I only hear about when they announce shutting them down. Call me when they shut down maps, gmail, search or android.
I dont read
This (and the getting data out of the system bit that another responder mentioned) is precisely why I added the phrase "unless it's something that's easily transferred between competing services". Web services are fine if you can transfer everything to a competing provider with a few keystrokes, but when your business is reliant on something totally proprietary run by one other company, which has no alternatives whatsoever, you've put your business at great risk.
WTF is Schemer? Even the god damn article doesn't tell me and if I don't know WTF it is, how does anyone else? Just another effen Google tool that nobody was told about being shut down because nobody used it. Chicken and Egg Issue. You don't tell folks about it so nobody fucking uses it. Shut it down.
Google could save lots of time/effort/PR by simply not starting these many apps/tools that they keep shutting down because they're not telling anyone about them.
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