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Federal Court Kills Net Neutrality, Says FCC Lacks Authority.

An anonymous reader writes "According to a report from Gizmodo, a U.S. Appeals Court has invalidated the FCC's Net Neutrality rules. From the decision: 'Given that the Commission has chosen to classify broadband providers in a manner that exempts them from treatment as common carriers, the Communications Act expressly prohibits the Commission from nonetheless regulating them as such. Because the Commission has failed to establish that the anti-discrimination and anti-blocking rules do not impose per se common carrier obligations, we vacate those portions of the Open Internet Order.' Could this be the final nail in the coffin for Net Neutrality? Or will the FCC fight back? This submitter really, really hopes they fight back..."

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  1. common carrier by Spazmania · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's past time to just classify them as common carriers and stop trying to make an end-run around the rules.

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    1. Re:common carrier by Nutria · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Does this classification require legislation or something?

      Hopefully. After all, bureaucrats shouldn't be able to just pass any regulations they feel like. Instead, they should be bound by the bills that the Congress passes and the President signs.

      Likewise, the Courts should not invent new law based upon their own feelings of what's Right and Wrong, but on the actual text of Laws and the Constitution.

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    2. Re:common carrier by Spazmania · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hence the court ruling that it was, in fact, not fair. Which is why the FCC should redefine Internet transit services (services which "connect" you to the Internet) as common carriers.

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    3. Re:common carrier by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No, actually that's the crux of the issue. Common carriers CAN'T fuck with the packages. Fedex isn't liable for all the crazy shit you ship through them and they can't fuck with your packages. They can't delay all packages sent from Texas because their legislaters aren't playing ball and they can't charge extra to deliver to abortion clinics because they're a common carrier. Fedex isn't hauled to court for drug dealers shipping drugs, or for game companies shipping brass knuckles to game reviewers in California.

      Likewise if your ISP was a common carrier, it can't fuck with the messages just because they think JohnnyMcSpammalot is being obnoxious and loud. And that includes throttling.

      And arguably can't perform any "quality of service". Then again, Fedex really does handle packages differently depending on where they're going, but it's cool because they're not dicks about it and they're just trying to do better business. If ISPs were upfront about their QoS, then they'd probably dodge that bullet too.

  2. Choice of providers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's a comment in the article stating that the court found the FCC regulations are not needed because consumers have a choice in broadband providers. That argument always make me shake my head. I have one broadband option - Comcast. Verizon FIOS isn't here. I suspect most people are actually in the same boat as me. There really is no viable broadband option to my local cable provider. Who/where are these people that have these so-called choices?

  3. Re:See what happens when leftists are in Charge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    See what happens when leftists are left with their hands in the cookie jar? Fraud, abuse of power, general asshatedness.

    As opposed to when the people on the right are left with their hands in the cookie jar ... Fraud, abuse of power, general asshatedness.

    Sorry there, dumbass, but politicians of all stripes are douchebags.

    The ones on the right just pander more to large corporations and their drinking buddies, to the detriment of all of us.

  4. Re:See what happens when leftists are in Charge? by mlw4428 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Generally speaking the idea of anti-Net Neutrality is an anti-business, conservative idea. It "stifles" the "free market" by forcing regulations on businesses. The conservative's "free market" approach would be to let ISPs decide if they want to charge on a per-site basis and let consumers go to other ISPs who will simply do the same thing.

  5. Re: See what happens when leftists are in Charge? by Antipater · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That depends on which Appeals Court it is. There are thirteen of them.

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  6. The FCC is screwed-up by MobyDisk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It sounds like this is a technicality because the FCC's rules are inconsistent with law. They need to fix them.

    I am reposting this comment by "CakeStapler" from GizModo because it explains it well:

    As we explain in this opinion, the Commission has established that section 706 of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 vests it with affirmative authority to enact measures encouraging the deployment of broadband infrastructure. The Commission, we further hold, has reasonably interpreted section 706 to empower it to promulgate rules governing broadband providers’ treatment of Internet traffic, and its justification for the specific rules at issue here—that they will preserve and facilitate the “virtuous circle” of innovation that has driven the explosive growth of the Internet—is reasonable and supported by substantial evidence. That said, even though the Commission has general authority to regulate in this arena, it may not impose requirements that contravene express statutory mandates. Given that the Commission has chosen to classify broadband providers in a manner that exempts them from treatment as common carriers, the Communications Act expressly prohibits the Commission from nonetheless regulating them as such. Because the Commission has failed to establish that the anti-discrimination and anti-blocking rules do not impose per se common carrier obligations, we vacate those portions of the Open Internet Order.

    (Emphasis mine)

    So, the FCC will remove their exemption from treatment as common carriers, reenact the regulations, and there's nothing to see here. 20 minutes ago

  7. Re:Free market.. by MikeBabcock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I loved the sarcasm, it was not immediately obvious -- which is absolutely the best kind.

    Granted, on a tech site full of Sheldons, it might be a good idea to throw in a [/sarcasm] at the end of the post ... just in case someone missed it.

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  8. Re:See what happens when leftists are in Charge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The conservative's "free market" approach would be to let ISPs decide if they want to charge on a per-site basis and let consumers go to other ISPs who will simply do the same thing.

    Sure, but the conservative's "free market" approach would also leave it up to companies to decide if they want to pollute, allow car dealers to lock out Tesla (because they don't want competition), absolve Monsanto from liability, further deregulate the financial industry to allow Wall Street to rob us like they were doing before the '08 meltdown, and further extending copyright.

    In other words, more crony-capitalism where the rich are free to make backroom deals which benefit them, and which harm the rest of us, and the 'freedom' of the market mostly restricted to big players who paid off the politicians.

  9. Re:See what happens when leftists are in Charge? by ichthus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    allow car dealers to lock out Tesla

    No, this requires government interference with the free market (legislation against Tesla's business model). In a free market, Tesla could... *cough* MAR-KET freely to whomever.

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  10. Re:The future... by Qzukk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The future: broadband packages sold like cable packages.

    Basic: $59.99/mo gets you the top 100 websites like whatismyip.com (with commercials inserted before your IP is finally revealed), comcast.com, nbc.com, and 80 other websites you've never heard of nor would ever visit. All with added commercial interstitials.

    Friends and Family: $89.99 gets you the basic package plus access to twitter, myspace and livejournal so you can share your experiences on The Comasticnet with all of your friends. Every third post is replaced with an ad, and every morning you automatically tweet how Comcastic your day is.

    Movie Watcher: $129.99 gets you the basic package plus access to nbc.com streaming*. You can buy the netflix channel for an additional $10/mo and youtube SD for $5/mo or HD (720p videos only) for $10/mo. As a special deal you can sign up for Movie Watcher and Friends and Family for a low introductory price of $150/mo (*: standard rates only allow 24 hours of video streaming per month. Additional programming charged at pay per view rates of $5/MB)

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  11. Re:See what happens when leftists are in Charge? by fredprado · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Only if you have absolutely no clue about what is left and what is right.

  12. Re:All corporations accountable to a degree by jeff4747 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Witness the latest Target breach. Millions stopped shopping there and Target was (rightfully) forced to take numerous steps to draw people back in.

    Because there are alternatives for shopping. I have exactly 1 choice for high-speed Internet, Time Warner Cable. When they roll out their tiered Internet and I don't like it, what do you propose I do?

    A grocery store near where I lived stopped carrying a lot of things I liked to buy. So I stopped shopping there.

    And if they were the only grocery store, you'd just cheerfully starve, right?

    Basically any company that has customers, is accountable and will self-regulate based on customer feedback.

    And when you grow up, you'll realize that this little theory only works if the customers have alternatives.

    If you'd like an example: text messaging: It uses some empty space during the messages that a GSM phone has to send to the tower anyway. It costs the phone company virtually nothing (just the routing servers, which aren't pricey). Yet there are zero cell providers in the US that offer really "free" text messaging. All of them require paying more than "voice only" plans.

    How about baggage fees on airlines? With every airline other than Southwest charging them, customers actually don't have alternatives.

    And that doesn't even get into the situations where nominal competitors directly collude to screw over customers.