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US Senator Warns Against Political Surveillance By Drone

cold fjord writes "Politico reports, 'Sen. Dianne Feinstein says she once found a drone peeking into the window of her home — the kind of cautionary tale she wants lawmakers to consider as they look at allowing commercial drone use. ... she used the episode to implore lawmakers to "proceed with caution." Feinstein said she encountered the flying robot while a demonstration was taking place outside her house. She said she went to the window to peek out — and "there was a drone right there at the window looking out at me." ... "Obviously the pilot of the drone had some surprise because the drone wheeled around and crashed ..." she said. ... Feinstein, who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Wednesday that she has seen firsthand the surveillance capabilities of drones and called civilian privacy concerns "significant." She ... recommended a search warrant requirement. Feinstein said she is working on legislation with the Commerce Committee and urged senators to move swiftly to create "strong, binding enforceable privacy policies that govern drone operations before the technology is upon us."'"

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  1. Isn't that cute by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    She doesn't like it when it happens to her.

    1. Re:Isn't that cute by erikkemperman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So Feinstein

      urged senators to move swiftly to create "strong, binding enforceable privacy policies that govern drone operations before the technology is upon us.

      This is such undiluted hypocrisy, given her reaction to the Snowden saga. It would be funny, if it was not so very sad.

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    2. Re:Isn't that cute by k6mfw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From Mad Magazine around 1970: When United States wants to know activities of other countries, we employ intelligence agents. When another country does the same to us, we accuse them of using spies.

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    3. Re:Isn't that cute by operagost · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just like her stance on gun control-- fine as long as she gets an exception.

      She's the master of special pleading.

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    4. Re:Isn't that cute by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2

      It would be a real shame if a bunch of other stuff she legislated were to happen to her too.

    5. Re:Isn't that cute by TWiTfan · · Score: 2

      You could update that today: When a CIA spy is caught and imprisoned in a country like Iran or North Korea, he's a hostage being held by a brutal terrorist regime. When a North Korean or Iranian spy comes to the U.S. and gets caught and imprisoned, he's a terrorist enemy combatant who must be detained indefinitely for national security.

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    6. Re:Isn't that cute by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 5, Insightful

      For politicos like Feinstein, their Party or their alleged philosophical beliefs are as illuminating to their decision process as the logos on a NASCAR jacket. She says whatever sounds the most reasonable and responsible and occasionally stamps her feet and waves her arms and does the least to trouble the status quo as possible.

      Meanwhile she makes money investing in military related stocks, and builds a portfolio based on insider knowledge (as is legal for all Senators) and retires much wealthier than when she entered office. Rinse and repeat with the next political opportunist.

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    7. Re:Isn't that cute by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is such undiluted hypocrisy, given her reaction to the Snowden saga. It would be funny, if it was not so very sad.

      Very true. But I am still changing my will so I will be buried with my ice skates. Hell has frozen over. Diane Feinstein has finally found an expansion of government authoritarianism that she is unwilling to support. Wow.

    8. Re:Isn't that cute by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      I was just gonna say, someone should bug her house and visibly tap her phone line, and maybe she'll make a quick about-face on that too.

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    9. Re:Isn't that cute by superdave80 · · Score: 2

      Just wait till they come out with their new version, MI7! The MI6.4 patch was a little buggy for my taste.

    10. Re:Isn't that cute by DigiShaman · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You forgot to mention her stance that only the government can define who a journalist is. So in her worldview, citizen journalism and blogging is not covered under the first amendment of freedom of the press. Ya, she's a real fascist piece of work! The more you research who this women is, the more worried you should be.

      http://watchdog.org/100682/feinstein-wants-to-limit-who-can-be-a-journalist/

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    11. Re:Isn't that cute by mspohr · · Score: 2

      Feinstein has been one of the most rabid supporters of surveillance and has repeatedly defended the NSA.
      That's why it's stunning to see this hypocrisy when suddenly she is the victim of surveillance.
      Add in the fact that her husband makes millions from the military industrial complex and you see her true nature.
      Interesting biography: http://foundsf.org/index.php?title=Richard_C._Blum_and_Dianne_Feinstein:_The_Power_Couple_of_California
      "On January 20, 1980, in San Francisco, California, finance capitalist Richard C. Blum (born in 1936) and the ambitious Democratic Party politician Dianne Feinstein (born 1933) were married in a wedding ceremony at San Francisco City Hall. This marriage created a family economic and political alliance that in a little over a decade would allow them to become the top power couple in the state of California with a place on the national and world stages. They remain at the pinnacle of power today, he as a billionaire financier, speculator, real estate executive and deal maker; she as the senior Senator (California’s highest federal official), from the largest and most powerful state in the United States. They exemplify power as it is now wielded in the higher circles of the class system of the U.S. today, and illustrate well the dismal results of this system. This system is best characterized as a plutocratic kleptocracy, completely lacking in authentic democracy, operated by and for corporate racketeers, in short, a dictatorship of big capital, the top 1% of wealth holders, which makes up a ruling class. "

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    12. Re:Isn't that cute by roc97007 · · Score: 2

      ...but assure her that we'll never listen to the tapes, we'll just keep them. Just in case.

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  2. Probably just a peeping tom by TWiTfan · · Score: 5, Funny

    She is pretty sexy, after all.

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  3. Two sets of laws by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But Ms Feinstein, surely if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to fear?

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  4. Here It Comes Again by some+old+guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Federal licensing and "oversight" for businesses = tax$

    2. Exemptions for "national security" = hello FBI/TSA/NSA/DEA

    3. Strong, enforceable privacy policy = Private use prohibited.

    Watch for it.

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    1. Re:Here It Comes Again by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      1. Federal licensing and "oversight" for businesses = tax$

      2. Exemptions for "national security" = hello FBI/TSA/NSA/DEA

      3. Strong, enforceable privacy policy = Private use prohibited.

      Watch for it.

      Considering that the source is one Ms. Diane "Mr. and Mrs. America, turn in your guns, but I'll keep my heavily armed guard detail" Feinstein, I can't imagine that would be all too surprising.

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  5. She lies.... Reality is by bhlowe · · Score: 4, Interesting

    DIFI had a $40 remote control helicopter fly by her house during a CODE PINK protest against her use of drones and her support of the endless wars she supports.

    1. Re:She lies.... Reality is by almeida · · Score: 2

      her support of the endless wars she supports

      This is why I only vote for candidates who have pledged to support only the wars they don't support.

  6. She wasn't surveilled.... by malakai · · Score: 5, Informative

    ... I don't see this covered in any of the mainstream media reports, but the 'drone' involved was a pink 'barbie' knockoff with no video capability. It's a $25 dollar think-geek type mini gyro. I'm amazed it made it to the 2nd floor window of a home outside. No wonder it crashed, those things have the stability of a paper airplane thrown into a fan.

    Example of it:
    http://www.amazon.com/33013-Concept-Alloy-Helicopter-Light/dp/B009VCHVJQ/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1389974986&sr=1-3&keywords=pink+gyro

    "Obviously the pilot of the drone had some surprise..."

    Obviously the pilot couldn't see you because there's no cameras on it, so I doubt she was surprised you looked out the window....

    ...because the drone wheeled around and crashed ..."

    They do that a lot.

    The irony here is Feinstein over dramatization of this event given what she authorizes on the SIC. Using this incident to call for stricter drone laws is like being hit by a paper airplane and calling for the FAA to investigate.

    1. Re:She wasn't surveilled.... by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The irony here is Feinstein over dramatization

      That's status quo for her, unfortunately. She's a terrible Senator, but a fairly good power monger.

      Just like with guns, her goal is to take this technology away from the hoi polloi and reserve the use for her gang.

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    2. Re:She wasn't surveilled.... by malakai · · Score: 2

      An Go-Pro Hero 2 weighs about 1/4th of the total weight of one of these mini gyros. There's no way that's going to fly on these. They don't have that kind of lift.

  7. Well? Answer the question! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How dare you spy on us !

    How dare you try to listen in on privacies like political negotiations as we carve up all your reality and feed it back to you in exchange for votes! Do you know how hard it is to keep cover memes hiding the real reasons we do things in place?

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  8. A drone in the hand by Bucc5062 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Okay, I can on one hand understand the lack of love for the dear Senator. With the other, let us not miss an advantage to press an issue that till now did not seem important to our Surveillance Lady in Waiting. Finally a Senator gets a first hand taste (and let's assume it really happened*) of getting spied on and she's pissed off. Now she wants warrants and oversight so let's help in that direction to the full extent of what it means to have your privacy assaulted.

    I think it is sad that one of the privileged needs to be affected before they react with more then a sniff. It would be grand if our elected officials actually cared a damn for the people they represent, but I for one welcome her "outrage" and hope she uses it to tighten privacy laws and get tough on those who ignore our Constitutional rights.

    * all this noise of whether it was a real drone, it was made up, or did or did not carry a camera is plain stupid. If it happened then good, she got a taste of the future and does not like it. If it was fake or trumped up so she can cited a "legitimate" reason for her outcry, who cares. The story is her enlightened position.

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  9. It's about possesion by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 2

    Feinstein is probably amping up legislation to keep drones out of the hands of hobbyists and the general public.

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    1. Re:It's about possesion by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      Feinstein is probably amping up legislation to keep drones out of the hands of hobbyists and the general public.

      Well, duh. Politicians love drones when they're spying on the proles, but let the proles spy on them... never.

  10. Pictures. It Did Happen. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Here's a picture of the drone. I really did happen. Teh drones is shocking!

    Image taken from this video.

    1. Re:Pictures. It Did Happen. by davecb · · Score: 2

      Can you say "scam"? See a toy helicopter, report a predator (drone, that is).

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  11. DIFI by Rich_Lather · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Orwell's pigs suddenly come to mind.

  12. Re: Maybe... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Well you may know that she issued one, and only one, concealed weapons permit while she was mayor of San Francisco -- to herself. Apparently out of all of San Francisco she believed she was the only civilian that could be trusted and deserved permission to carry a gun.
    Please excuse me while I vomit...
    BTW profanity does not enhance this discussion. It diverts attention from her disgusting behavior to yours.

  13. Re:Maybe... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, she's got guns. She just doesn't want *you* to have them.

  14. Re:Maybe... by operagost · · Score: 4, Insightful

    She owns one... despite the fact that she consistently legislates against the 2nd amendment, and has her own security detail.

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  15. hypocrisy? by ron_ivi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not hypocracy if her position is consistantly that the elite and rich defense contractors (doesn't her husband own much of URS) are above the law, and everyone else must bow before them.

    Her legislation could say "only senators, former senators, people with over $100 million, and defense contractors can use drones to spy on others" -- and it wouldn't be hypocracy. It'd just be evil.

  16. Re:Recall by morgauxo · · Score: 2

    That would be quite an improvement. Probably better than them electing a new one actually!

  17. Re:Feinstein by colinrichardday · · Score: 2

    Fuck Feinstein

    Ewww!!