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Network Solutions Opts Customer Into $1,850 Security Service

An anonymous reader writes "Brent Simmons has posted about a troubling email he received from Network Solutions. He registered two domains with them in the 1990s, and the domains remain registered today. Simmons just received an email informing him that he'd been opted into some kind of security service called Weblock, and that he would be billed $1,850 for the first year. Further, he would be billed $1,350 for every year after the first. Believing it to be a scam, he contacted the official Network Solutions account on Twitter. They said it was real. The email even said he couldn't opt out except by making a phone call."

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  1. Free market means exactly that ! by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Free market, bitches! Suck it you socialist faggots!

    Free market means exactly that - if the vendors do something despicable the customers stop doing business with them and choose other vendors who won't do similarly despicable things to them.

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    1. Re:Free market means exactly that ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      So the free market is being able to defraud people of money and the only consequence is to "lose their business"? Jesus you libertarians are dumber than I thought.

    2. Re:Free market means exactly that ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Free market, bitches! Suck it you socialist faggots!

      Free market means exactly that - if the vendors do something despicable the customers stop doing business with them and choose other vendors who won't do similarly despicable things to them.

      Exactly. Like, if I don't like Comcast I can just switch to... uh...

    3. Re:Free market means exactly that ! by manu0601 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In a truly free market, the domain problem does not arise, because internet have not been created. What you have is a myriad of proprietary networks instead.

    4. Re:Free market means exactly that ! by bob_super · · Score: 5, Funny

      You are free to start your own provider, and dig your own trench to the nearest CO.
      You are free to be off the web, too, or use dial-up into another state.

      Free market doesn't prevent abusive monopolies, as long as they only abuse their customers and not their symbolic competitors.

    5. Re:Free market means exactly that ! by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 5, Informative

      Adam Smith himself wrote about the need to put legal limits on unethical business practices.

    6. Re:Free market means exactly that ! by TrollstonButterbeans · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Network Solutions has to operate within their role as a bleeding legacy domain name provider.

      To anyone reading this who doesn't know, they used to be the sole provider of domain names in the world.

      Most of their remaining clients are very large businesses who don't care if their domain renewal is $6 bucks or $35 bucks or $500 bucks.

      They have to fight to survive in a way compatible with their mainstream client base --- big inept companies that didn't switch to a cheaper provider a decade ago like Godaddy or [insert your favorite low cost provider here].

      Network Solutions has a client base similar to a company running COBOL or with mostly government agencies as clients. Sure their business practices suck, but they are little different than other legacy service providers --- you might ask why the blogger of the article has been overpaying for domain names for 15 years? He probably has flushed $700+ dollars down the toilet compared to what he could have saved with another domain registrar ages ago. But he didn't, he's been volunteering overpaying for quite a while now and that is your average "still with Network Solutions" customer. Network Solutions has been doing this for a decade now through inertia and now for survival. This doesn't make Network Solutions innocent -- they aren't --- but their customer base does consist of people largely willing to overpay, which is largely big faceless corporations --- I bet Blackberry prices gouges captive legacy clients and I bet so does IBM, EDS and Accenture and even Microsoft. It is just what happens to legacy service provider's customers.

      This fellow should have switch a dozen years back if he was price shopping the market.

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    7. Re:Free market means exactly that ! by Desler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But knowing that would require actually having read all of what Adam Smith wrote not just the parts one likes.

    8. Re:Free market means exactly that ! by zieroh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm shocked that someone with such a very low slashdot ID would be even the least bit confused about this.

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    9. Re:Free market means exactly that ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did you at least return fire from your dug-in position?

    10. Re:Free market means exactly that ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I am _not_ free to go around digging trenches everywhere That is totally true. I got halfway across my neighbor's yard before being shot at.

      That's the reason we got much better internet in Europe. With our gun laws around we don't get shot while getting us better net.

  2. This'll teach 'em a lesson by TheloniousToady · · Score: 5, Funny

    Call collect.

  3. Ewww. by Marrow · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Their letter says they want to charge him that much for adding security to -their- website. To prevent changes to their data. It doesn't add any value to his service at all. Just theirs. How do people live with themselves.

  4. Re:speechless by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

    Molesting captive giant squid?

    Just goes to show you that any thread can get hit with Rule 34.

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  5. Re:I can't find this feature by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Informative

    I googled network solutions "weblock" and got their service agreement which refers to a service by that name.

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  6. Re: Call a Lawyer by whoever57 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Unauthorized charges to cards are pretty damned illegal.

    Are you sure that the charges are unauthorized? What's in Network Solutions customer agreements? There might be some very small print that allows NetSol to add security services and charge for them.

    I just scanned the agreement and could not find anything that would allow NetSol to add products without authorization, but then I am not a lawyer.

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  7. Re:This is what libertarians think by JMJimmy · · Score: 5, Funny

    In a free market there is no fraud.

  8. Re:speechless by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Molesting captive giant squid?

    Just goes to show you that any thread can get hit with Rule 34.

    Wait. That isn't normal?

    I see how this might be confusing. In anime the squid molests the people. The tables are turned in this episode of Netwaste Solutions. Can't wait for teh 3D version so I can finally see that squid get his.

  9. Re:I can't find this feature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I googled network solutions "weblock" and got their service agreement which refers to a service by that name.

    From the ToS:

    Although WebLock shall provide for additional domain protection, you acknowledge and agree that the Service is not a guarantee or policy of insurance of any kind, and in no way will the use of or enrollment in the WebLock Service diminish or otherwise alter the other sections of this Agreement, including but not limited to, Section 7 (Exclusive Remedy) and Section 8 (Disclaimers of Warranties) above, which shall continue in full force and effect.

    Can't be the only one here wondering...For $1850, just exactly what in the fuck are you getting then...

  10. NWS -- more info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A couple years back, Network Solutions "opted me in" for automatic payment of all my domains via credit (debit) card. I didn't want this, as I don't habitually keep enough money in the account to cover random charges; I put in what's needed, when needed, and that's how I like to roll. There's an opt-out checkmark; but it doesn't work. You have to call and it tells you so. Then when you call, they say "oh, hey, for some reason this isn't working..." So since I couldn't turn it off, I just changed to an expired card. Then I get panicked form emails about how it won't charge, and I pay by paypal. That worked last year. THIS year, though, what happens is that the Paypal charge is now automatic -- by paying once, you're opting in (without recourse of course) to paying them via paypal automatically forever. I found that once you paid, Paypal (not Network Solutions, but Paypal) has a way to disable the "agreement" and get you back to payment only when you authorize it. Takes some menu mining, but it's there. Or at least it was a few months ago.

    The only reason I continue to use Network Solutions is because over the years (and yes, some of my domains have been up since the 90's as well) I've watched other name registering outfits come and go, seen various name server problems, etc., and for all their horrifying business practices and high prices, my sites seem to always work, which is what I place the most emphasis on.

    Interesting note: When the above happened, I submitted the story to slashdot. Initially, it got high ratings, and I thought for sure it would post. Then it disappeared. I mean literally -- I could no longer find it in the submissions cue. It disappeared from my profile, too. Older and newer submissions remain. I have no idea what that means, but I thought it was weird. No other story I have submitted has disappeared like that.

    1. Re:NWS -- more info by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 5, Informative

      Get a prepaid debit card, such as a GreenDot or similar.
      Only put money on the card when you need to pay a bill, never link it to a bank account/credit card.
      Since the card isn't linked to a bank account, there is no automatic charge mechanism that will work.

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  11. Re:Not exactly new by Nemyst · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd rather have lawmakers understand the field they're making laws in. You can always get lawyers to help you write legal documents, that's their job, but good luck getting a lawyer turned politician to understand medicine, physics, environment, psychology or economics.