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VC Likens Google Bus Backlash To Nazi Rampage

theodp writes "Valleywag reports on legendary Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tom Perkins' WSJ op-ed on class tensions, in which the KPCB founder and former HP and News Corp. board member likens criticism of the techno-affluent and their transformation of San Francisco to one of the most horrific events in Western history. 'I would call attention to the parallels of Nazi Germany to its war on its "one percent," namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one percent, namely the "rich,"' Perkins writes. 'There is outraged public reaction to the Google buses carrying technology workers from the city to the peninsula high-tech companies which employ them. We have outrage over the rising real-estate prices which these "techno geeks" can pay...This is a very dangerous drift in our American thinking. Kristallnacht was unthinkable in 1930; is its descendent 'progressive' radicalism unthinkable now?"'"

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  1. Pathetic by gweihir · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People like that will use any "argument" to justify what they are doing, no matter how remote or unrelated. They will not care whether they cheapen other things that have happened. The only goal is to pull the discussion on an emotional level, because they know the facts are not on their side...

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    1. Re:Pathetic by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A better comparison would have been the French revolution. A corrupt overclass that has little regard for the suffering happening beneath them, and actively working against the common good for their own benefit. Of course, that might not have supported his point so well since those guys mostly ended up at the guillotine.

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    2. Re:Pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A better comparison would have been the French revolution

      No. Just no.

      Come on people, this is not the government trying to take action against a group it doesn't like. These "bus riders" are in danger of being rounded up and put in prison, put in camps, or put to death.

      If we as a society can't deal with the fact that a company provides transportation for its employees as a perk then we are a lost cause. These "bus riders" are probably all working while in the bus. Less traffic for everyone, less stress for the employees and more productivity for the company.

      These "bus riders" are not forced to ride the bus, and are not in danger of being burned at the stake or facing a guillotine, or being shoved into ovens or gas chambers.

      Just get a fucking grip. Your hyperbole is utterly wrong and ridiculous!

    3. Re:Pathetic by jackspenn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why does this anonymous coward get to decide what is good and what is bad for the rest of us?

      This is one part I hate about socialism and communism, these centralized economic systems allow for people (or committees of people) no smarter and often less intelligent than the common individual to make arbitrary decisions for the greater good.

      The beauty of capitalism (and why the US should work to get back to a pure capitalist society) is that each of us as individuals can decide for ourselves, vote with our money, with our goods, with our services and support things we like and ignore things we do not.

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  2. Godwin's law by maxwell+demon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Maybe someone should have told him about Godwin's law.

    By invoking a Nazi comparison, he already lost.

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  3. A short list of things that are like the Holocaust by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. The Holocaust

    I also have a list of things that are like slavery if anyone is interested.

  4. Who are you talking about? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There, fixed that for ya.

     

    People like that will use any "argument" to justify what they are doing, no matter how illogical. They will not care whether theyworked for what they have. The only goal is to pull everyone down to their level, because they know they are too lazy too succeed on their own.

    Are you talking about the Op-Ed author or the protestors?

    Everyone works hard. This myth that the top of the socio-economic pyramid is there because they worked harder than everyone else and that the poor just sit around and do nothing is just complete and utter non-sense. Well, maybe not. There are the folks who inherited their money and just collect rents and dividends and hang out on their yachts.

    I work very hard, but could I ever enter the World of this VC?

    No. Because I do not know the right people to get there.

    I have no doubt that among the protestors there are very hard working smart people that could do a better job than this guy can - any day. But they don't have the contacts and may even be considered someone who is the "wrong sort" and won't "fit in" to their "corporate culture".

    Perkins is very smart - I have no doubt - and lucky for him that he had parents who gave him great genes and the nurturing to bring out his god given talents.

    But look how he was at the right place at the right time to ride on the coat tails of Bill Hewlett and Dave Packard at the beginnings of Silicon Valley. He was lucky enough to get in at the start of the "gold rush".

    No sir. This guy had some wonderful opportunities given to him and like most successful people, delude themselves into thinking it was 100% their hard work.

  5. Re:Wrong left-wing extreme by PvtVoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People riding the Google Bus are not the one percent. Hell, most likely not even the top five percent

    Why the fuck anybody would have a problem with companies providing middle-class workers with traffic-reducing, environmentally friendly transport to work us utterly beyond me. But, oh please, successful people: lay off the victimhood schtick. It's silly and unbecoming.

  6. What happens in the future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you train and educate for current technology and current needs of business, they will be unqualified when things change.

    Companies' needs are for the short term. Technology, business and the markets change very quickly and if we train people to be one trick ponies they will have to be retrained again anyway.

    And we're not talking about ancient Babylonian or Greek here - we're talking about reading, writing, math, basic science and critical thinking here - as well as civics; which I think has been completely forgotten by everyone. Those are basic things and more important than the programming language du jour; which after going out of style, those people will be unemployable - even if they do retrain inanother language du jour - because they have no on the job experience and the companies will just go and hire some CHEAP new grads who were trained in the language/tech du jour.. The system is gamed to screw the people and enrich the rich even more.

    If a company needs a worker they SHOULD train that person to do the job that THEY need. TO demand that my taxes go to pay for vocational training for some high tech company that off shores their profit so that they don't have to pay taxes is a complete ripp-off.

    These companies want it all their way: the public pays for their worker training while they keep all the profits and pay little or no taxes.

    Google and the rest of Silicon Valley is actually harming our country. They are importing poor people to work for less, not paying taxes, ripping off the system, and all the while keeping the money for themselves.

  7. Re:Oy by RedSteve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What you are describing is training.

    training is not Education.

    Education makes it easier to train someone, but training is not - and should not be - the sole point of Education.