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North Korea's Home-Grown Operating System Mimics OS X

CambodiaSam sends the latest on "Red Star OS," North Korea's attempt at a home-grown operating system. Previously, it had closely resembled Microsoft Windows, but a new update now strongly mimics Apple's OS X. "Despite living in a country very much shut off from the outside world, many people in North Korea do have access to technology - including mobile phones. However, devices are heavily restricted. Internet access, for instance, is locked down, with most users able to visit only a handful of sites mostly serving up state-sponsored news. The Red Star OS is peppered with North Korean propaganda, and its calendar tells users it is not 2014, but 103 — the number of years since the birth of former North Korean leader Kim Il-sung. An earlier version of Red Star OS was made available worldwide in 2010 after a Russian student posted it online. The latest version is believed to have been released some time in 2013."

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  1. Seconds since 1970 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are we really any different? All hail the Unix gods.

  2. Confessions Of an Ex-SLASHDOT BETA user by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Day 1: It wouldn't stop, the redirecting. At first I thought it was malware. Had my first drink in a long time.

    Day 2: Barely had the strength to carry on as the BETA REDIRECTIONS continue.. trying not to talk to hallucinations at the bar and in the bathroom which laugh at me about these redirections.

    Day 3: Discovered the BETA redirections were random, and while at first they looked somewhat usable, when I looked at me and my monitor screen in the mirror, a horrible woman with flesh hanging off of her body looked back, trying to lead me into a dance as the word BETA appeared across her rancid breasts.

    Day 4: These BETA corridors go on FOREVER! On the plus side, I've taken up disassembling vehicles to corner this BETA beast and sacrifice myself rather than lead others to discovering it. I ate some red snow.

    Day 5: Finding it harder to concentrate. I've ate some more of the red snow. The taste is starting to grow on me.

    Day 6: This typewriter is the only entertainment I have, apart from throwing things at the walls, trying to get some response from the BETA which is now taking over my mind.

    Day 7: Hahahahahha! Would you believe it? I'M STILL BEING REDIRECTED TO SLASHDOT BETA PAGES! AHAHhahahaah! Type, type, ding, ding! Wooo!

    Day 8: The hallucinations are actually real! Would you believe it? They have offered to help me if I agree to work for them. I'm thinking about patenting this delicious red snow, the taste is unreal!

    Day 9: Having black out sessions where I cannot remember large passings of time. Found some makeup, thought I'd paint a joker smile on my face to amuse the people only I can see!

    Day 10: Productive today, part of what I wrote for my new screenplay:

    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slashdot BETA!
    I cannot opt out of Slas

    (drops of blood on paper)

  3. Fuck BEta by buswolley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    FUCK beta a second time

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    1. Re:Fuck BEta by dmomo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mod up. Yep. and i'm willing to burn my excellent karma supporting this off-topic war.

    2. Re:Fuck BEta by Antipater · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yup. Keep the Beta hate-train rolling. We do not want that shit.

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    3. Re:Fuck BEta by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As am I! Kill this abomination. You fucked up Slashdot/Dice. Admit it, kill the beast, and we can all get back to beating on ACs.

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    4. Re:Fuck BEta by dmomo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And in a last ditch effort to save the classic site, all my mod points will be burnt promoting these off topic protest posts.

    5. Re:Fuck BEta by T.Hobbes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Slashdot Beta ruins the foundation of Slashdot, the discussion system.

      Dice: listen to your users and abandon the project. Accept your losses and move on before your users move on to other sites.

    6. Re:Fuck BEta by AmiMoJo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'm actually quite worried now. My favourite site might die. Yeah, my favourite, because despite everything wrong I do spend a lot of time here. If the classic site ever goes away it's dead, and with the beta as default it's likely to make a lot of people leave. ACs in particular are going to get fed up pretty fast.

      Don't do it Dice, don't kill Slashdot.

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    7. Re:Fuck BEta by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Mod up. Yep. and i'm willing to burn my excellent karma supporting this off-topic war.

      War? On the one hand, you've got slashdot users, who know what they like. On the other side, you've got Dice employees, who have been tasked with creating something new.

      Oh, does the beta display unicode properly? If not, what good is it? If it does, have they tested it on links?

      Honest questions, as I've never ever seen the beta site; with javascript disabled, I even missed the previous interface update, as the non-js version hasn't changed in years....

    8. Re:Fuck BEta by DudemanX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Let's do this. Burn the redesign into the fucking ground!

    9. Re:Fuck BEta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      and a third.

      Come on Slashdot. Please don't become a second digg.

      And no, I won't mail you to tell you this. I used to feel 'part of' slashdot and would have mailed you with my personal mail address in the blink of an eye, but not any longer. You look to much like SEO toting PHB's now, so you'll never get my current mail address.

    10. Re:Fuck BEta by atomicxblue · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I want to know why all of these websites are moving to formats that require you to scroll endlessly. Classic /. is so much easier to read and skip over stories you aren't interested in, but with the new system, it is just so busy, it makes my eyes hurt.

    11. Re:Fuck BEta by somenickname · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm still waiting for an "Ask Slashdot: Once Slashdot beta has been foisted on me, what site should I use instead". I'm only partially joking. I actually want to know the answer.

    12. Re:Fuck BEta by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 5, Interesting

      another anti beta vote here. I'll seriously consider leaving if the beta becomes the "only" option, my only option will be hacker news and fuck DICE for screwing over one of best tech/geek news sites on the internet.

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    13. Re:Fuck BEta by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I too would like to score +5 Insightful! Boo, beta!

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    14. Re:Fuck BEta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      another anti beta vote here. I'll seriously consider leaving if the beta becomes the "only" option, my only option will be hacker news and fuck DICE for screwing over one of best tech/geek news sites on the internet.

      Indeed I have never signed up but have been coming here for so many years it is not funny. As I told them in the feedback email they wanted the day the BETA crap goes live is the last I will ever be here.

      HA!! captcha is molests which is sort of how I feel after getting a beta page my slashdot experience was molested...

    15. Re:Fuck BEta by Suddenly_Dead · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't know. Ars' current layout is busy and nigh unreadable. Reddit is fucking Reddit. Hacker News has been brought up and is okay I guess, but glancing at it the front page layout is a pain, and I care about almost none of the news on it (while Slashdot's focus seems to gel with me). Any other frequent suggestions?

    16. Re:Fuck BEta by glavenoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Oh, does the beta display unicode properly? If not, what good is it? If it does, have they tested it on links?

      No, the beta site doesn't display JACK FUCKING SHIT properly. It's a menagerie of uselessness with random fonts, difficult to follow comment threads, random fonts, no real division between the forced comment titles and the comment itself (WTF, seriously?), random fonts, and just a general shitshow.

      I don't know if you can even put links in comments anymore let alone unicode.

      But at least there are random changes in the fonts so we can challenge our patience trying to read the comments.

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    17. Re:Fuck BEta by LoRdTAW · · Score: 5, Interesting

      HERE, HERE!

      We should arrange a protest. Basically every time we get a beta redirect, instead of posting something related to the article you write a protest post against the beta site. And in addition encourage others to do the same. Also, don't forget to email them your opinion about the beta site, the link is at the top of every page now. Let our voices be heard!

    18. Re:Fuck BEta by MMC+Monster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Anyone want to host a new /.?

      Seriously. Slashcode is still out there. A few developers could polish it up and post a story here to announce the new site.

      Any reason this hasn't happened yet?

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    19. Re:Fuck BEta by couchslug · · Score: 4, Insightful

      May the person who directed that it be redesigned die in a fire.

      Not for the redesign itself, but for INSISTING on it instead of dropping it and admitting it was a fuckup. Their departure from this mortal coil would reduce oxygen wastage.

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    20. Re:Fuck BEta by tftp · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It will take some serious bandwidth to serve the new Slashdot. A central server will not be sufficient. A distributed design is needed, one that is both scalable and secure. Perhaps some BitTorrent foundation can be used. Ideally, the new Slashdot would exist "in the network," but not on any one server. Such schemes were proposed in FreeNet.

      But if the Classic mode is officially killed, Slashdot will be forked; I have no doubt about that. I am reading /. in Classic mode, with JavaScript disabled (using NoScript.) If that function is no longer available, I will never see the "other" Slashdot; I'm certainly not going to enable JS for that.

    21. Re:Fuck BEta by Tough+Love · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe you can explain to me why there isn't a news item for the beta, to provide a proper forum? Cowardice?

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    22. Re:Fuck BEta by reikae · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I just had the displeasure of trying the beta for the first time because of the comments here. I don't like it either (and I like even Windows 8, so come on!); the worst part is that the comments are in a VERY narrow box, and all the useless framing takes up a significant chunk of space.

      Also it seems to require Javascript, but I know that even on this site I'm in the minority with that particular dislike.

    23. Re:Fuck BEta by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I guess its a way to get more ad revenue or something. It cant be for aesthetic or usability reasons.

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    24. Re:Fuck BEta by MachineShedFred · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The Apple puck mouse thinks that the beta is painful and unusable.

      That's how bad it is.

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  4. Re:There's a solution - at least for now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  5. Re:Mimic? by RDW · · Score: 5, Funny

    So what is it, really? A pirated copy? Based on Windows? OSX? Linux? Something unique?

    It's about a dictatorial regime imposing a new version of its software on what it sees as a captive population of users, with a generic new user interface obviously copied from somewhere else.

    Oh sorry, you meant Red Star, not Slashdot Beta! No idea. Looks like Linux.

  6. Slashdot morphing into Kuro5hin? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    imo soon /. with their beta design, will create a mass exodus of users and the end game is a ghost town like Kuro5hin, if any of you remember it.

    1. Re:Slashdot morphing into Kuro5hin? by couchslug · · Score: 3, Informative

      That may be for the best.

      The answer to a zombie infection is a headshot.

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  7. Re:There's a solution - at least for now by buswolley · · Score: 4, Informative

    for a limited time only, per the announcement.

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  8. Boycott by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I propose that we boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta.

    Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta

    Commentors - only discuss Beta

    Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

    1. Re:Boycott by jddeluxe · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm using all my mods points on comments that TRASH Beta...

    2. Re:Boycott by glavenoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I hope you're promoting those comments because it's probably the only way the dipshits who run this place will get the message.

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  9. Re:There's a solution - at least for now by Antipater · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://slashdot.org/?nobeta=1 also works, if it bugs out like it did for me and there isn't a sidebar or footer.

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  10. Made available since... by dohzer · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm pretty sure the OS was made public back in 99, not 2010 as has been misreported by this article.

  11. Re:There's a solution - at least for now by buswolley · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Obviously the highest quality is too good for us... the classic is now a limited time production and is scheduled to be gone in a few months.

    Instead, its going to look like somenobody's blog

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  12. Fuck you, slashdot by LookIntoTheFuture · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fuck you, slashdot, for taking away classic.

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    1. Re:Fuck you, slashdot by buswolley · · Score: 5, Informative

      Fuck it a second time for more mod points!

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    2. Re:Fuck you, slashdot by buswolley · · Score: 4, Informative

      for now.

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  13. Re:Dates by buswolley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    #3803. You've been at slashdot for more than a while. What is your view of beta Slashdot?

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  14. Re:Mimic? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You must be confused and offtopic. Today's comments are dedicated to saying fuck BETA.

  15. Re:There's a solution - at least for now by buswolley · · Score: 4, Informative

    developer on a payroll

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  16. Re:Dates by Guy+Harris · · Score: 4, Insightful

    #3803. You've been at slashdot for more than a while. What is your view of beta Slashdot?

    From what I've read here, my view is "I'd like to avoid it if at all possible". If I can temporarily try it, and revert (and complain) if it really sucks, I might try it just to make sure they haven't "improved" it as much as, say, nbcnews.com has "improved" recently.

    Tried it. It hasn't "improved" quite to the the extent of nbcnews.com, but it's definitely an "improvement" in that sense. (More shiny, less useful; too many big pictures. I'm waiting for headlines like "15 ways to improve your .Net skills" or "5 weird ways LISP can simplify your code" or....)

  17. Awful beta by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why change for the sake of change? Why are site visitors to be forced into something awful and unwanted? The new beta is awful. There is no other way to put it. If I am forced into the beta I will simply leave - forever.

  18. Fuck the beta by umafuckit · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I visited it today for the first time in ages. Still sucks. Masses of wasted screen space. Surely it's possible to create a portal that converts the beta to the classic style?

  19. Beta Comment by jasnw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The new beta looks like a bad case of ReCode (recode.net) envy to me.

  20. Re:Is the source code included? by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 3, Funny

    If not, Dear Leader is going to get some serious f-bombs dropped on him by Linus and Richard.

    It is almost worth sending a request to the govenment of North Korea for the a copy of the source code as per the gpl's license just to see what happens...

    Firstly to see if you get a response, and secondly to see how many US govenment watch lists you get put on.
    and if I don't get response i could always sick Stallmen on them...

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  21. Oh, My. by Bucky340 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is the first time in ages I've actually logged on to comment. I just want it on the record in my own name how much the Beta site hurts. I mean, after all these years, I've just finally gotten used to all the faults and boom! Here comes a whole new set of awful. I'll take a well-tuned slant six Dodge over an oil leaking, off-idle stumbling, lemon of a [insert disfavored auto brand here].

  22. Beta beta beta by Thanosius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I rather enjoy the fact that almost none of the higher moderated comments have anything to do with the story itself and rather about Slashdot Beta. Goes to show how much people hate what this will do to Slashdot.

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  23. Re:Mimic? by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

    Good on ya, mate. Keep this thread on topic. BETA is teh sux0r!

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  24. Beta will kill Slashdot and drive users away by kbahey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have been a regular visitor to Slashdot for around 15 years. For that, I get the checkbox to disable ads, though I browse with Javascript disabled so my browser does not slow down.

    I come here for the discussions, and often read comments at +5, changing that only if I find a discussion interesting and warrants reading at a lower level.

    The new beta uses JQuery for the comment threshold selector, and changes that on the fly. This means all the comments are loaded, but not visible, and processing any page with considerable number of comments will slow down MY computer! If I have a few tabs open to read later, my computer will be unusable.

    If they insist that I enable Javascript to browse the site at the threshold I want, then they will lose me as a long time. I imagine that others long timers will hate the site too.

    Dice have to remember that this site has two unmatched features, interlocked: a moderation system that is good at cutting down the trolling, spamming, and noise, and a comment section that is frequented by many people who are passionate about technology and other nerdy stuff.

    If they manage to aggravate a lot of their users, the comment section will no longer be attractive to the audience. Perhaps we should revive kuro5hin?

    I wrote the above in a feedback form that I filled a while ago, and I am emailing this comment to their feedback@slashdot.org.

    Please send them feedback too.

    And mod this up so Dice can see what they are getting themselves into.