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New Zealand Spy Agency Deleted Evidence About Its Illegal Spying On Kim Dotcom
An anonymous reader writes "The latest news in this: GCSB appears to have deleted key evidence in the case in a ham-fisted attempt to cover up its illegal activities. Even more ridiculous, GCSB is trying to cover this up by claiming that the material had 'aged off' — implying that it was deleted automatically. New Zealand Prime Minister John Key claims that they had to delete the information under the law. Of course, there are a few problems with that. The first is that under New Zealand law, like most countries these days, parties have an obligation to preserve documents likely to be necessary in a legal case. But, even more damning is that there's video of John Key in the New Zealand Parliament trying to defend against an earlier claim that GCSB had deleted some evidence by insisting that GCSB does not delete anything ever:"
And fuck Beta!
FUCK SLASHBETA
There should be a law that says "Assume guilt, apply maximum penalty, put people in jail" when stuff like this happens.
Same for Arthur Anderson and their shredding parties, etc.
No sig today...
pretty please?
Beta sucks. Fuck Beta.
You stay classic Slashdot!
Sometimes I get the feeling that NZ is deliberately messing this up.
That the US might have pushed them to get Kim and this is just NZ's way of protesting it.
The amount of mistakes made in this case is approaching comedic levels.
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FYI, The slashbeta admins are modding threads and replies as -1.... like 5-10 posts all at once. No REAL COMMUNITY MEMBER MODS are doing this, but the admins.
Users don't want Slashbeta, but the admins are trying to suppress this obvious reality. The last 3-4 stories all comments are 99% anti-slashbeta and they still want to pretend they're listening to us and asking for our feedback.
The feedback is to take your fucking redesign and rm -fr
Die in a fire slashbeta
...and what's up with all the hate agai...(click).
Oh. What in the holy fuck is this?
Nevermind. Fuck Beta.
... and yes, Fuck http://beta.slashdot.org/ !!
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
I couldn't comment on Beta in the proper link because it's down, so I'd like to go offtopic for a moment, and note that the Beta interface is unwieldy and takes longer to load (which makes a difference on 2G/3G tethering). Therefore, I'd like to vote against it. Thank you.
Liberty - Security - Laziness - Pick any two.
This site is probably the reason I didn't finish my university degree in 2000.
I have spent ages here, and took part in some very intelligent discussions.
Slashdot has always been about the highly educated user base, you could always count one at least one knowlegable person in the comments getting to the heart of TFA.
It has been in decline the last few years, maybe because new users find reddit first (and then they are reduced to drooling zombie basement dwellers) or maybe because the editors are worse (though complaining about the editors is nearly as old als /. itself), I don't know.
But this site redesign will be the end of it once and for all. The main selling point of slashdot is it's userbase. Scare them away and all you're left if is a generic 'news' rehashing site.
But the stubborn pushing of this disastrous beta (office politics? nobody wants to be mean to the nice new designer?) makes shure it will at least go out with a bang and not slowly fade away.
I watch with a sad sort of amusement as if my old college dorm where I spend so many good parts of my life is burning to the ground because the homeowner thought it would be a good idea to replace all woodwork with cardboard.
...will it take for slashdot to abandon this course? I'm only asking because I love this site and want to continue to to support it as long as I am able. Tell us please, this really is a case of Dice asserting it's supremecy isn't it? I can't fathom why the usual slashdot admins would subject their usership to these shenagagins.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Hey Dice, remember Digg?
July 2008 Digg took part in advanced acquisition talks with Google for a reported $200 million price tag
August 25, 2010 Digg v4 site redesign
July 12, 2012 Digg announced its sale to Betaworks for $500,000
Is that what you want?
It will be cool to see the comments in the thousands, even if all are screaming in unison the same two words.. "Fuck beta". But seriously, fuck beta and you're not google: shove it down our throats and many of us will be out.
AC opined:
They don't delete externally collected data. They obviously delete or age-off internal records.
Prime Minister John Key, who is in charge of GCSB said:
This is a spy agency. We don't delete things. We archive them.
Key's office confirmed that Key was talking about the video that his lawyers had claimed was deleted.
AC opined:
Isn't claiming that Dotcom was illegally spied upon putting the cart before the horse here? Where is the evidence? Regardless of whether it was deleted or not, by making the statement one is assuming the conclusion and puts their own credibility at risk.
Here are some links from the fine article showing that the government and the police have already admitted malfeasance:
Police Admit That NZ Spy Agency Illegally Spied On Kim Dotcom
NZ Prime Minister Admits That The Government Illegally Wiretapped Megaupload Employees
Oddly enough you are correct that these admissions of malfeasance do put the credibility of the police and the Prime Minister at risk although that is probably not what you meant.
And in conclusion: FUCK BETA!
We don't see the world as it is, we see it as we are.
-- Anais Nin
I have been a regular visitor to Slashdot for around 15 years. For that, I get the checkbox to disable ads, though I browse with Javascript disabled so my browser does not slow down.
I come here for the discussions, and often read comments at +5, changing that only if I find a discussion interesting and warrants reading at a lower level.
The new beta uses JQuery for the comment threshold selector, and changes that on the fly. This means all the comments are loaded, but not visible, and processing any page with considerable number of comments will slow down MY computer! If I have a few tabs open to read later, my computer will be unusable.
What is worse it that they require you to click on the slider on every article to change the threshold! This is just insane!
If they insist that I enable Javascript to browse the site at the threshold I want, then they will lose me as a long time. I imagine that others long timers will hate the site too.
Dice have to remember that this site has two unmatched features, interlocked: a moderation system that is good at cutting down the trolling, spamming, and noise, and a comment section that is frequented by many people who are passionate about technology and other nerdy stuff.
If they wanted to intentionally ruin the site and drive people away, they would not have done any worse than what they are doing now.
If they manage to aggravate a lot of their users, the comment section will no longer be attractive to the audience. Perhaps we should revive kuro5hin?
I wrote the above in a feedback form that I filled a while ago, and I am emailing this comment to their feedback@slashdot.org. Please send them feedback too.
And mod this up so Dice can see what they are getting themselves into.
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