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New Zealand Spy Agency Deleted Evidence About Its Illegal Spying On Kim Dotcom
An anonymous reader writes "The latest news in this: GCSB appears to have deleted key evidence in the case in a ham-fisted attempt to cover up its illegal activities. Even more ridiculous, GCSB is trying to cover this up by claiming that the material had 'aged off' — implying that it was deleted automatically. New Zealand Prime Minister John Key claims that they had to delete the information under the law. Of course, there are a few problems with that. The first is that under New Zealand law, like most countries these days, parties have an obligation to preserve documents likely to be necessary in a legal case. But, even more damning is that there's video of John Key in the New Zealand Parliament trying to defend against an earlier claim that GCSB had deleted some evidence by insisting that GCSB does not delete anything ever:"
And fuck Beta!
FUCK SLASHBETA
pretty please?
Beta sucks. Fuck Beta.
Judges don't take kindly to things like this, plus Evidence Tampering is a separate crime.
Then there's the fruit of the poison tree argument. I don't know about NZ, but here in the US all evidence that comes from illegal evidence is considered illegal. So if the original evidence against Dot Com was illegally obtained by the GCSB, then everything, including all the search warants, is inadmissible. That's probably why it was deleted. When Dot Com's lawyers go to make that argument expect the government to say something like "you have no proof."
So lets pretend that we've just completed writing this code, as opposed to having just completed sabotaging it -Altera
Sometimes I get the feeling that NZ is deliberately messing this up.
That the US might have pushed them to get Kim and this is just NZ's way of protesting it.
The amount of mistakes made in this case is approaching comedic levels.
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...and what's up with all the hate agai...(click).
Oh. What in the holy fuck is this?
Nevermind. Fuck Beta.
... and yes, Fuck http://beta.slashdot.org/ !!
Muchas Gracias, Señor Edward Snowden !
I couldn't comment on Beta in the proper link because it's down, so I'd like to go offtopic for a moment, and note that the Beta interface is unwieldy and takes longer to load (which makes a difference on 2G/3G tethering). Therefore, I'd like to vote against it. Thank you.
Liberty - Security - Laziness - Pick any two.
This site is probably the reason I didn't finish my university degree in 2000.
I have spent ages here, and took part in some very intelligent discussions.
Slashdot has always been about the highly educated user base, you could always count one at least one knowlegable person in the comments getting to the heart of TFA.
It has been in decline the last few years, maybe because new users find reddit first (and then they are reduced to drooling zombie basement dwellers) or maybe because the editors are worse (though complaining about the editors is nearly as old als /. itself), I don't know.
But this site redesign will be the end of it once and for all. The main selling point of slashdot is it's userbase. Scare them away and all you're left if is a generic 'news' rehashing site.
But the stubborn pushing of this disastrous beta (office politics? nobody wants to be mean to the nice new designer?) makes shure it will at least go out with a bang and not slowly fade away.
I watch with a sad sort of amusement as if my old college dorm where I spend so many good parts of my life is burning to the ground because the homeowner thought it would be a good idea to replace all woodwork with cardboard.
...will it take for slashdot to abandon this course? I'm only asking because I love this site and want to continue to to support it as long as I am able. Tell us please, this really is a case of Dice asserting it's supremecy isn't it? I can't fathom why the usual slashdot admins would subject their usership to these shenagagins.
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
Hey Dice, remember Digg?
July 2008 Digg took part in advanced acquisition talks with Google for a reported $200 million price tag
August 25, 2010 Digg v4 site redesign
July 12, 2012 Digg announced its sale to Betaworks for $500,000
Is that what you want?
You're correct but it's not obvious that the law will actually be applied in this case. Clearly, the NZ and US both really, REALLY want to crucify Dot Com and are willing to break the law, cheat, lie, steal, defraud and everything else in order to do it.
Meanwhile, Slashdot Beta is absolute crap, and if the morons, idiots, and assholes pushing it persist in this stupidity, then they should expect a boycott.
As was stated before, lucky you.
I was one of the happy few 'til yesterday when I decided I should take a look. I took. And I was kinda glad I didn't have lunch yet or it would have been a waste of money.
Slashdot beta looks like, well, pretty much any mediocre news aggregation site out there. Not really awful, but it feels a load slower and it looks like someone took a course in some kinda edgy new technology and now feels the urge to show it off. Remember when the AOLlers found out about HTML and how many bells, whistles and FLASHING gadgets you could fill a page with? Like it or not, that was the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw it. It sure felt like someone wanted to do a "wow, look at me" stunt.
I might be an old nerd, but to me, less can be more...
What I like about the "old" Slashdot is not only that it's faster. That's an additional goodie. But first of all, the pictures are smaller and the text gets more real estate on the page. Yes, I like it that way. If I wanted a picture book, I'd turn to the son of a friend of mine, he's 3 and he has plenty of them. I don't need a news page that looks like it's aimed at 3 year olds. I feel kinda insulted that way. I know, it's the trend with newspapers and online magazines all over, and guess what the net effect was: I STOPPED READING THEM.
It seems the makers of /. fall for the same fallacy the makers of MMOs all over the planet fall for: WoW did it a certain way, so we have to, too, because WoW is the biggest out there. Possible. But you will not attract the players of WoW because, guess what, they already have what they want! The only thing you can accomplish by becoming more like them is to lose those that are with you exactly because you're NOT like them and because they hate what they are.
But I trust the market in this very special case. As soon as /. is no longer useful, something else will pop up to fill the void. As I usually say when it comes to others that piss their users off: They need us. We don't need them.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
not sure about that - most people with mod points will mod "fuck beta" posts as -1 as they are offtopic, and such posts are easy to moderate (ie you don't have to think if something is insightful or informative for example).
I always mark things off topic, but not this time. I'm making an exception and I'm not the only one with mod points making that exception. The Dice overlords didn't hear the first dozen times we screamed about the beta site so we're screaming louder since they are telling us they are going to take away our classic view. Really... this is the last time before Slashdot implodes. If they move ahead to the beta crap and force us on it, Slashdot is going to be a ghost town.
-- Common Joe
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