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Is Intel Selling Bay Trail Chips Below Cost?

edxwelch writes "An analyst at Bernstein Research has found that Intel is selling their tablet Bay Trail chips to OEMs below cost, concluding that after end rebates, Intel's tablet revenues are likely to be "close to zero," while profits will be negative. Intel has responded that the 'special costs' Intel is incurring are not pushing down gross margin. Intel needs to offer the subsidies to OEMs building $199-$299 devices to bring the bill of materials down and make them competive with cheaper chips from the likes of MediaTek and Rockchip."

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  1. Dice is selling out Slashdot with the Beta by east+coast · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So what's the real difference here? The difference is that Intel is selling something of real world value. Dice is destroying something of real world value.

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    1. Re:Dice is selling out Slashdot with the Beta by dmomo · · Score: 4, Informative

      More posts like this. Protest beta with on-topic posts. (bonus points if title is on topic too).

  2. -1 ontopic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Fuck Beta is the only thing to say today.

    1. Re:-1 ontopic by DaTrueDave · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I will be joining in the Slashcott from Feb 10-Feb 17. No on-topic replies today!

    2. Re:-1 ontopic by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Former US president (and everyone's favorite funny man) Richard M. Nixon announced his approval of the Slashdot Beta site.

      "I was just telling Pat this morning as I made sweet Nixon love to her that what the web needed was a whitespace-riddled atrocity. Slashdot Beta is the Tet Offensive of discussion sites, so screw you, you stupid hippies."

      Henry Kissinger was said to have been very pleased as well. Dr. Kissinger was quoted as saying "In Soviet Russia, Slashdot betas you!""

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    3. Re:-1 ontopic by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You are NOT a paying customer

      Nope. As people are so fond of pointing out, we're the product. Since our displeasure with the new UX-infested abortion obviously, as you so correctly put it, "means squat to Dice," maybe having a bunch of "products" walking off the shelves and out of the store will get their attention.

      Can't speak for the others, but whether or not I walk back onto the shelves on the 18th depends on whether or not they manage to complete the cranio-rectal extraction or not.

  3. YUP by TheNastyInThePasty · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Slashdot is officially being actively destroyed because it doesn't make enough advertising revenue anymore

    From the report:

    Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero.

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  4. Editors are scared by TWiTfan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Looks like they're using their unlimited mod points to try to downmod everyone who posts on the beta.

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    1. Re:Editors are scared by dmomo · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's OK. What made slashdot great is the people who love it, leaving insightful comments. Since they are currently only leaving comments related to beta... if you mod those down, there won't be much of a discussion left.

      If they do manage to suppress the beta "noise", just bring it to their facebook page.

  5. Dice has written off Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The editors are getting involved by modding down the "fuck beta stuff", but only this comment went from +5 to -1: http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4760775&cid=46174399

    I think we have hit on what is really going on. Slashdot is being killed so that the brand can be re-purposed.

    1. Re:Dice has written off Slashdot by Belial6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sounds like the opportunity for a huge win for Commander Taco.

      1) Make Slashdot a popular site.
      2) Sell Slashdot for lots of money
      3) Wait for new owners to kill Slashdot
      4) Make new Slashdot site with different name
      5) Wait for everyone to switch to new site
      6) Sell new site for lots of money
      7) Profit!!!

  6. Re:FTC issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    SLASHBETA - A violation of human dignity.

    DOWN WITH BETA

  7. Boycott by chebucto · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.

    On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.

    Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

    If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this in a new tab. After seeing that, click here to return to classic Slashdot.

    We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
    We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott

    Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
    Commentors - only discuss Beta http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

    Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

    Discussion of Beta: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=56395415
    Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3321441
    Alternative Slashdot: altslashdot.org

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  8. I don't always comment, but when I do... by coastal984 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I say, Fuck Beta! Holy hell this is terrible.

  9. Regarding the fucking beta by gman003 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not a guy who blindly follows what he's used to. When I got Windows 8, I gave Metro a try. It has some good parts, and I don't even dislike the look of it. I could have adapted to the inconsistencies, and the weird tabletness of it all. But after trying dozens of apps, I found that none of them worked as well as the desktop applications.

    I like to think I'm a guy who does what works. Metro didn't work, so I no longer use it. I got a program that gives me a start menu back, and it lets me configure it to be even better-fitted to my needs than the stock W7 menu.

    I gave Slashdot Beta a try, because I thought it deserved a chance. Perhaps all the hate for it was just small-minded traditionalists clinging on to the familiar. But no. Slashdot Beta breaks all the important functionality, and it makes it look worse. If it goes live as it currently is, not only am I quitting Slashdot for good, but I'll be throwing a proposal to my bosses about making a competitor, because the market for an audience-focused tech site will be wide open (I'm currently contemplating "Alpha" as a name).

    Slashdot Classic has problems, certainly. Unicode is broken, HTML comments are stupid, the design isn't that great, and since the thing is still running on Perl I'm sure there's some hindrances to continued development. Slashdot needs a rewrite, a clean new technical foundation powering a new front-end design.

    But Beta isn't it. With all the problems Classic has, Beta is a million times worse. I can't think of even one way in which Beta is superior - it is a step down on all fronts, obviously designed by people who never used Slashdot and only copied from other news sites and comment forums.

  10. Re:We'll go aggressively passive-aggressive then by meta-monkey · · Score: 3, Funny
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  11. For the first time by LookIntoTheFuture · · Score: 4, Interesting

    in Slashdot history, comments about the story are the ones that are offtopic. They may not be modded that way, but I find myself skipping them. Is it really that difficult to keep classic in addition to beta? You have a lot of loyal, intelligent people here. Why give them the finger?

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  12. Re:Didn't this get them in trouble before? by afidel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, but Intel is an American corporation which only manufactures outside of the USA

    Pure B.S.

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  13. FUCK BETA by vivek7006 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    FUCK BETA. I want my classic back. And one more thing, FUCK BETA!

  14. First Time for Bad Karma; Expect More by cervesaebraciator · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've been posting here for years. I always try to be polite, even in disagreement. Accordingly, I have never been downmodded, except in a few cases of clear disagreement (i.e. a controversial topic gets "overrated", etc) and in most of those I generally get moved back to my starting score of 2 by others. I'm always at karma cap. Again, I ascribe this to the fact that the comments of someone who tries to be polite are generally not rejected by the community.

    All this is to say that today is a first. I corrected a link to a comment by an AC here making it easier for folks to follow his intended direction to this project. When I did this, my comment was downmodded OT into oblivion.

    I don't claim to know who's doing this OT downmodding, but if even my little comment (which was on topic for its GP) was downmodded then we should expect it to continue. Your comments may no longer be welcome on Slashdot.

  15. Re: Desperation ... by kenh · · Score: 3, Informative

    The chips in question, quad-core Atoms (AKA Bay Trail), are actually quite good - I have a Dell Venue 8 Pro tablet with that CPU and it runs Windows 8.1 quite well, with very useful battery life (IMHO)...

    I think their strategy is to get the products in user's hands to overcome negative impressions from earlier Netbook/mobile offerings from Intel.

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