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How Russia Transformed a Subtropical Beach Resort To Host the Winter Olympics

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Duncan Geere reports at The Verge that Russian resort as Sochi, on the eastern shore of the Black Sea, is humid and subtropical with temperatures averaging about 52 degrees Fahrenheit (12 C) in the winter, and 75 degrees (24 C) in the summer. "There is almost no snow here — at the moment it's raining," says Olga Mironova, a local resident. It's estimated that the cost of staging the Olympics in Sochi has been greater than the previous three Winter Games combined — ballooning to a whopping $51 billion including the cost of implementing an extensive system of safeguards to ensure there'll be sufficient snow in Sochi for the games including the cost of implementing one of the largest snowmaking systems in Europe. The system includes two huge water reservoirs that feed 400 snow cannons installed along the slopes that can generate snow in temperatures of up to 60 degrees fahrenheit (16 C). If that snow isn't enough, then the authorities will fall back on 710,000 cubic meters of snow collected during the winters of previous years leading up to the games. To keep it from melting in the region's hot summers, 10 separate stockpiles have been kept packed tight under insulating covers high up in the mountains, safe from the sun's rays. Down in Sochi itself the other half of the games will be held in five indoor arenas that will host figure skating, speed skating, hockey, and curling, and an additional outdoor area will host the opening and closing ceremonies. In each of these indoor arenas, underfloor cooling systems are installed so that the ice stays frozen above it using propylene glycol, which doesn't freeze until temperatures reach 8.6 F (-13 C). Climatologists predict that even under a best-case scenario, almost half the venues that have hosted the Winter Olympics over the last century would be unable to do so by 2080 without resorting to extensive and expensive artificial snowmaking techniques.""

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  1. Re:Celsius by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It would even be clearer to most people here if you did it in kelvins rather than Fahrenheit.

  2. The $51 billion is nothing to do with the location by Viol8 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Its down to the monumental institutionalised corruption in Russia where everyone from the highest level apparatchik down to the brick layer is on the take.

  3. Putin's Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    These games are also a show of the absolutely incredible depth of corruption in Russia. The initial budget of $12 billion has ballooned to over four times to some $50 billion – the most expensive winter or summer Olympics in the history. The 45-kilometre road from Sochi to the outdoor venues alone cost $8 billion, enough to pave the finished road with 5-millimetre thick gold. It was a common arrangement in the Olympic construction projects to use the money as follows: 30% for the actual construction work, 35% to the officials and 35% to the "oligarchs" who oversaw the project. And let's not forget how the Sochi locals who happened to live near the coming Olympic venues have been brutally forced on the streets without any compensation for their expropriated property, thanks to a special law that Putin had passed in Duma. You should see the documentary Putin's Games for some background on the mind-boggling amounts of corruption in these games.

  4. Re:!Subtropical. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    43.5 degrees N (more northerly than Buffalo, NY) is not "subtropical."

    The word "subtropics" refers to a particular location. The word "subtropical" can refer to any area that has characteristics similar to the subtropics.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_locations_with_a_subtropical_climate

    Hey lookie there: Eurasia -> Russia -> Sochi

  5. ridiculos! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok. I'm frankly sick and tired of all this media campaign of discrediting the Russian olympic games. I mean, this article is completely ridiculous.

    As a comparison, the weather in Sochi is similar to the one in Grenoble (at least from a temperature point of view). Now, the thing is that I live in Grenoble, which was also the location of the olympic games in the 60's. Like in Sochi, right now it is raining in Grenoble, and the temperatures are around 10 degrees Celsius. Despite this, just yesterday I went skiing at the resort which hosted the downhill event in the 60's and guess what? Perfect skiing conditions, all slopes were open and no artificial snow has been used in the last 4 weeks. How is this possible? Well, most of the events at the winter olympic games are hosted in the mountains, which in the case of Grenoble are 2000 meters above the level of the city. I don't know about Sochi but the Caucas mountains have peaks of over 5000 meters.

    Just comparing the temperatures in the biggest city which happens to be located near the actual mountains which host the games is completely stupid!

  6. You have to hand it to the Russians by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Funny
    State of the art megawatt snow-making equipment, stockpiles of snow from bygone years beneath thermal blankets in the mountains, and the employment of Altai Shaman to hold a mystical snow ceremony...

    Now, doesn't the lack of shower curtains and door knobs seem a bit pedantic?

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  7. Re:Celsius by the_cosmocat · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, it's time to give up! http://imgur.com/3ZidINK and to use the metric system also : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...

  8. sounds just like Vancouver n/t by Maxwell · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is the comment I am forced to type.

  9. Making Snow in Russia by Trachman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, making snow in Russia... Only in Russia... The cost of Olympic games is more than $50 Billion, or approximately $500 per Russian citizen, that is including babies and retired people. Had most of Russians been asked whether they agree to donate $500 per person they would have told "No". So they blew $50 billion... That is not entirely correct since this $50 billion has transformed to the salaries of the workers, organizers and security, cost of construction materials and the profits for organizers. So it is not all gone to waste. However Olympic games has always been a classic and favorite way of spreading the wealth... upwards. in 50 years we will hear about Russia's summer Olympic games in Arctic pole.

  10. Very inaccurate and deceptive by GauteL · · Score: 5, Informative

    While the indoor activities may well be in the City of Sochi, the activities which actually requires a large amount of snow (alpine and nordic) are actually arranged in Rosa Khutor, which may only be 50 km away, but happens to be approximately 1000 meters above sea level, something which does have an impact on the climate.

    There may be lots of things wrong with these Olympics, but there is no need to exaggerate.

  11. Re:Stupid by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well,at 43 degrees, it sits right about the same latitude as Toronto, a few degrees north of Salt lake City, a bit south of Vancouver, and a bit south of Turin (the last 3 of which also hosted the Olympics). Latitude really says very little about climate, especially when you are close to the ocean, or other very large bodies of water like the Black Sea. Toronto's weather is actually quite cold, and the only reason they couldn't host the winter Olympics is the lack of mountains. Vancouver, despite being north Toronto, actually has quite warmer weather.

    The next one around is in South Korea at 37 degrees latitude, and seems to be close to the ocean, although just about everything is close to the ocean in South Korea, by the standards of someone who lives in Canada. It seems their goal is to host the Winter Olympics in increasingly ridiculous climates, eventually to the point of getting the Winter Olympics in Dubai.

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  12. That was very interesting... by Fishchip · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Right up until the end when GLOBAL WARMING.

  13. Re:Celsius by kbg · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Metric Conversion Act would disagree with you.

  14. The mountains near Sochi get tons of snow... by oneiron · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Greater Caucasus Mountains where the Olympics are being held receive as much snowfall as any major ski resort in the US. It's just a bad year for them...sort of like Vancouver 4 years ago. I really don't understand the "subtropical" knock that everyone keeps repeating. This is a huge mountain range that gets tons of snow every year. Not considering climate change, the facilities they've built in the mountains will probably serve as a very nice ski resort after the olympics...

  15. Re:60 degrees F and 710,000 cubic metres. Idiots. by Mashiki · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh just wait until you come to Canada, neighboring the US especially in Southern Ontario or Alberta you have: Meat, veggies, fruit and bulk goods weighed in, grams and lbs. Lumber by the ft, and meter, road signs in various spots in mph and km/h. Liquid in containers, in fl oz, quart and ml, or liters. And to top it all off you get screwed over when buying gasoline.

    Then again, you could go to the UK and get baffled by stones.

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  16. Re:Celsius by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    reporting largely to Americans

    Are you sure about that?

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  17. Re:Stupid by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Also worth mentioning that there probably aren't that many ski resorts out there that don't use artificial snow. Whether it's to have the hill open in November, or just to make sure the base of the mountain is well covered. Artificial snow also provides a really good, solid base that will allow the resort to stay open longer into the spring as well. Perhaps up in the Alps such measures are not needed, because the snow doesn't melt in the sumer, but most places that I've been to use snow making equipment because just getting enough snow on the hill to handle the amount of traffic (skiing on show will push it to the sides of the hill), and to cover up rocks, requires that artificial snow will be used.

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  18. Re:Celsius by argStyopa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Celsius merely replaces one set of 'arbitrary' reference points (human warmest/typical =100 and coldest/typical = 0) with another (the freezing/boiling points of a hypothetically-pure water in a specific set of pressure circumstances = 0/100 respectively).

    Aside from that, it's what people grew up & are comfortable with.
    Well, the only other difference is that I don't see Americans being evangelical about trying to convince anyone to use their system. (Shrug)

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  19. Re:Celsius by Minwee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can easily divide a foot, for example, into thirds, halves, quarters. Not so much with base 10.

    If you can't easily divide the number ten into two equal halves, then perhaps you have bigger problems than just which set of units to use.

  20. Seriously? by ericloewe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Allow me to divide one meter by the amounts you mentioned:

    3 - 0,333mm (use as much precision as you'd like)
    2 - 0,500mm
    4 - 0,250mm

    Now, allow me to do something you can't do trivially with imperial units:

    How many centimeters does a kilometer have?

    1km = 1000m = 100.000cm

    Try doing that under 5 seconds with imperial units.

    You only insult yourself by using such stupid arguments. SI is better.

    1. Re:Seriously? by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      SI is better, but ease of unit conversions is at best a minor advantage. You know when the last time I had to convert between centimeters and kilometers was? Probably when I was in school, learning about using metric. I don't convert between inches and miles either -- there's just no point in most people's lives.

      In fact, the only units that I have to convert between regularly are time units, and metric doesn't help you there.

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    2. Re:Seriously? by Dare+nMc · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Not OP, but the US tape measures are much better than the metric equivalent. US has a large mark every half inch, a slightly smaller mark at 1/4 inch, 3/4 inch. then all the remaining marks slightly smaller at 1/8, and then smallest every 1/16". Without any numbers, you can do many many more iterations than divide by than 1/10th can do for framing, building houses, etc it is truly better. Especially that squares can skip the 1/8", and 1/16" marks that can't be so easily stamped into them for endurance, yet you can easily transfer measurements from this device with 1/4 as many marks as the tape measure back and forth, just looking for identical marks. 1/10 just doesn't scale like that, you can't skip half the decimal marks and not be lost, you can't just look at a tape, and no the difference without counting from 0.2 to 0.3.
      in your example, 0.25 your going to be approximating on a metric tape, where is half way between .2, and .3, so you will be counting each mark, 1,2,3 ok half way between the 2 and 3. With the US tape, if your a carpenter used to it, you know what a 1/4 mark looks like, so you can just see it and mark it. May not seam like much, but it truly save a second on every measurement. And it works for all the marks, what 15/32", the 1/2" mark is obvious, move up one of the smallest marks, want 9/16", go up by one of the 1/16 marks.

    3. Re:Seriously? by jopsen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      In fact, the only units that I have to convert between regularly are time units, and metric doesn't help you there.

      I did highschool physics in Europe with SI units...But oh, the horrors whenever, we saw a page from an American physics book :)
      More than half the book was about unit translation... it's convenient have kilograms, meters match up with the gravitational constant.

      Maybe you're right that it doesn't matter that much on a daily basis. But if you ever read the nutritional information on a product over here (I'm currently in the US) you'll see that it's per "serving" and:
      - servings are defined in cups (or something crazy)
      - fat per serving is grams, and
      - total contents of the package is defined in pounds.
      To deduce anything from the nutritional information on the product is very hard... In most other countries, it's grams of fat per 100 gram, and total contents of the package is in kg or grams... Enjoy.

    4. Re:Seriously? by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 4, Informative

      I did highschool physics in Europe with SI units...But oh, the horrors whenever, we saw a page from an American physics book :)
      More than half the book was about unit translation... it's convenient have kilograms, meters match up with the gravitational constant.

      I studied physics in the US -- both at high school and university level -- and I can tell you that nobody actually does physics using US units. Typically an introductory course will include an early segment on converting to and from metric, but the students can generally forget all about it because the coursework will all be in SI units.

      I've seen a couple old textbooks where the authors seemed to get a kick out of forcing people to convert back and forth (exercises would include mixed units), but I've never seen a book or a class in the last 20 years that did that beyond some initial work on making sure that the students know how to convert between units.

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  21. It's degrees celsius by ericloewe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    All systems of measurements are based on arbitrary references.

    The difference is that SI is a coherent system of base and derived units with very simple relationships between them, all based on the number 10 and a series of greek prefixes.

    Nobody ever asks themselves (*kids still learning the basics excepted) how many meters are in a kilometer. Knowing that, nobody is going to be left wondering how many grams there are in a kilogram or how many newtons in a kilonewton. The keyword is coherency.

    SI is coherent within itself and with the numerical system used by nearly everyone on this planet (base 10). Imperial units are neither.

    Also, SI is used in all but three countries. Don't you think those three countries might have done things wrong?

    1. Re:It's degrees celsius by plover · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Also, SI is used in all but three countries. Don't you think those three countries might have done things wrong?

      The only thing we (I'm an American) did wrong was to not convert to metric before the world was plunged into WWII. During the war, we produced millions of fabricating tools and machines to create war materiel - tanks, planes, guns, etc. After the war, all those micrometers, calipers, lathes, grinders, mills, and drills remained in metalworking shops across America. They all still had Imperial units stamped on their scales. They were held together with screw threads based on ANSI standards and Imperial measurements. They were build around drive screws that would move the table precisely one inch of throw for every ten revolutions of the drive worm. They had cams that would move a tool precisely .001 inches per revolution. The Imperial measurement system was literally cast in steel throughout America during the war.

      These tools then fueled the expansion of the American economy throughout the postwar period. (Many of them are still working today, and still power today's machine shops -- it turns out that a 5 ton cast iron lathe bed doesn't wear out very fast.) Imperial units were then and still are deeply embedded in American manufacturing.

      Along came the 1970s, and along came a big push for metrification. Schoolchildren were taught the metric system was the Best System Ever, while their parents told them the that metric was foreign nonsense and was stealing American jobs. The Pentagon actually tried to lead the way across the country, and fully adopted the metric system in order to interoperate with NATO forces. But the rest of the US manufacturers who were not producing mil-spec parts continued to crank out Imperial based products. Why? Because conversion isn't easy or cheap. Even if they could replace the lead screw in their lathes to move a metric-friendly 1 cm for every four turns of the shaft so they could make metric parts, they still needed Imperial capabilities to make replacement parts for old machinery. That would have meant needing two lathes, two micrometers, two calipers, and two sets of tools, all increasing the cost of conversion. It also would have meant extra inventories of all kinds of materials: 50cm tubing next to 2" tubing, etc. This was at a time when machine shops across America were shutting down as production was shipped overseas to Asia, so increasing their capital investment was simply not possible. So Imperial measurements remained.

      Ironically, many of the American machine shops that managed to survive globalization did so by entering the CNC age. My old shop retrofitted their old change gear boxes with servomotor based systems. And CNC equipment can work on either metric or Imperial measurements with the flick of a configuration setting. Now that the survivors have modernized, it might be time to try again.

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