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Facebook Debuts New Gender Options, Pronoun Choices

beaverdownunder writes "Facebook has recognized it's a gender-diverse world — at least in the U.S. In addition to Male or Female, Facebook now lets U.S. users choose among some 50 additional options such as 'transgender,' 'cisgender,' 'gender fluid,' 'intersex' and 'neither.' 'Users also now have the ability to choose the pronoun they would like to be referred to publicly: he/his, she/her, or the gender-neutral they/their.' A post on Facebook's Diversity page said, 'When you come to Facebook to connect with the people, causes, and organizations you care about, we want you to feel comfortable being your true, authentic self. An important part of this is the expression of gender, especially when it extends beyond the definitions of just "male" or "female." ...We also have added the ability for people to control the audience with whom they want to share their custom gender. We recognize that some people face challenges sharing their true gender identity with others, and this setting gives people the ability to express themselves in an authentic way.'"

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  1. Re:What's the difference? by thesandtiger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know, but it seems important enough to some people to make the distinction, and it's reasonably easy to accommodate them if they ask, so why not just roll with it?

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  2. Re:What's the difference? by kimvette · · Score: 5, Informative

    or:
    3. You have ambiguous genitalia

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  3. Re:What's the difference? by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Informative

    Gender is not the same as Sex

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

  4. Re:What's the difference? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It can mean a variety of things. It can often mean that the external genitalia between a person's legs seems to be something between a vulva/vagina and a penis. This can take the form of, for example, what appears to be a vulva with very swollen labia majora and a very large clitoris that can physically resemble a very small penis.

    Such persons are referred to as 'intersex' and while it's still a minority of humans, it's more common than I thought it was. The condition exist in degrees, and due to social expectations, relatively few intersex people advertise that fact if they can "pass" as one sex or the other.

  5. Re:What's the difference? by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Funny

    True. Proof: Everyone here has a gender. Very few have sex.

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  6. Re:What's the difference? by Elledan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ambiguous genitals can mean a lot of things. They can be just variations on what we often refer to as 'regular' genitals, as in female or male, with a gradual transition between these two extremes.

    There's also hermaphroditism - a sub-set of intersex - whereby both types of genitals are partially or fully present. Basically put this means having both a penis and vagina as well as a certain selection of internal reproductive organs.

    Coincidentally I'm also a hermaphrodite, and although I used to have both testicles and ovaries at the same time, I was born fully infertile without a womb. You can find more details about my situation on my (easy to find) site :)

    As for how often it actually occurs, intersex as an umbrella term is something in the order of 1:1,000 to 1:150 individuals who are born with an intersex condition.

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  7. Re:What's the difference? by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have a friend that is a true chimera. She has about 50% male cells and 50% female cells, and that included the cells that developed into genitalia and gonads. She has one ovary and one testicle, and a mix of hormones that wreak havoc on her.

    At birth, the doctors assigned a male gender on paper, expecting that the female parts would be easier to remove later, but that hasn't been the case. At puberty her hormones changed more toward female, making a male gender probably lethal. She now considers herself female, and is just waiting to have a bit of invasive surgery.

    That's about the most extreme form of ambiguous genitalia you can have, having developed from an ambiguous genome. Like most extremes, it's exceptionally rare, with only a few dozen people currently living. Less-extreme examples however, like 90%/10% splits, are relatively common, with a few hundred thousand such people worldwide. Some of those present visible symptoms, and some do not. Of course, that's only genetics. What someone associates as is another complicated issue.

    As a society, we like to classify things in easy categories, like "male" or "female", but reality rarely supports such a clear distinction.

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  8. Re:I miss the most important choice in that list by interkin3tic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That choice is made by not signing up with facebook. Your personal information is pretty much their entire business.

  9. Re:What's the difference? by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, everybody. Self-classification is gross, because misexistentialist says so.

    In the interest of public decency, you are now "poor" if you're unable to afford food or clothing, and everyone else is "rich". There is to be no further differentiation, so we can forget all of that "middle class" nonsense.

    It you were born within the bounds of the United States of America, you are an American. Everyone else is a foreigner, regardless of immigration, heritage, or temporary circumstances.

    Whenever the ambient temperature is above 32 degrees Fahrenheit, it is "warm", and for the sake of avoiding disgusting differentiation, everyone must wear their state-issued "warm" clothes. At 32 degrees Fahrenheit and below, it is "cold", and we all must wear the appropriate "cold" clothing.

    Of course, not everyone will want to follow these new rules, but we have a suitable and tasteful classification for that as well. Those who conform will be considered "comrades", and those who violate these basic rules for a civil society will be deemed "unpersons" and will no longer be welcome here.

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  10. Re:What's the difference? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ill note you didnt answer the question of "how many people actually have it".

    The hell I didn't.

    The second link provides statistics on how many people with the various types by births and was identified as such.

    I'll note that you didn't read the links. But if you need it spoon fed to you:

    Not XX and not XY one in 1,666 births
    Klinefelter (XXY) one in 1,000 births
    Androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 13,000 births
    Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome one in 130,000 births
    Classical congenital adrenal hyperplasia one in 13,000 births
    Late onset adrenal hyperplasia one in 66 individuals
    Vaginal agenesis one in 6,000 births
    Ovotestes one in 83,000 births
    Idiopathic (no discernable medical cause) one in 110,000 births
    Iatrogenic (caused by medical treatment, for instance progestin administered to pregnant mother) no estimate
    5 alpha reductase deficiency no estimate
    Mixed gonadal dysgenesis no estimate
    Complete gonadal dysgenesis one in 150,000 births
    Hypospadias (urethral opening in perineum or along penile shaft) one in 2,000 births
    Hypospadias (urethral opening between corona and tip of glans penis) one in 770 births
    Total number of people whose bodies differ from standard male or female one in 100 births
    Total number of people receiving surgery to "normalize" genital appearance one or two in 1,000 births

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  11. Re:Why not by TangoMargarine · · Score: 5, Funny

    [ ] Male
    [ ] Female
    [ ] Likely To Be Offended

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