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Internet Censorship Back On Australian Agenda

New submitter aberglas writes "The conservative government's George Brandis wants to force ISPs to block sites that might infringe copyright. Brandis said he stood firmly on the side of content creators (a.k.a. Hollywood). Ban gross violators today, obscure ones tomorrow, porn sites, far left sites the day after..." From the article, too, this snippet: "The federal government is also considering implementing a "graduated response scheme" that could lead to consumers' internet accounts being temporarily suspended if they ignore notifications to stop downloading illegal content." Shades of the Copyright Alert System.

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  1. All *might* infringe ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Informative

    The conservative government's George Brandis wants to force ISPs to block sites that might infringe copyright.

    And since all sites 'might' or 'could' infringe copyright, the demand is only to get to an approved list operated by the media companies for everything, but further entrenching their revenue stream -- because then they'll know all ad content and subscription services belong to them.

    These clowns are destroying the internet, and the rights of everyone in order to ensure their rights could never possibly be violated.

    And I fear there's no sign of governments pushing back and telling them to piss up a rope.

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    1. Re:All *might* infringe ... by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lately there have been so many shitty movies out of hollyweird that I can't find anything worth downloading. It's a massive waste of bandwidth. I finally figured out that is how they are combating piracy now. The films suck so bad that no one wants to watch them even if they're free.

    2. Re:All *might* infringe ... by donaldm · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Lately there have been so many shitty movies out of hollyweird that I can't find anything worth downloading. It's a massive waste of bandwidth. I finally figured out that is how they are combating piracy now. The films suck so bad that no one wants to watch them even if they're free.

      I fully agree, I have not watched a Hollywood movie in years.

      Actually from the article Attorney-General George Brandis is the one who has flagged the changes, however he appears to agree and criticize the Copyright Act stating

      "I firmly believe the fundamental principles of copyright law, the protection of rights of creators and owners did not change with the advent of the internet and they will not change with the invention of new technologies."

      then

      He described the Copyright Act as "overly long, unnecessarily complex, often comically outdated and all too often, in its administration, pointlessly bureaucratic".

      In the article there is a statement:

      Australians are among the most avid users of pirating websites in the world. For example, Australians accounted for 16 per cent of all illegal downloads of television program Breaking Bad.

      Having never watched "Breaking Bad" I did a quick search and found it is a TV series which anyone with a Personal Video Recorder can actually copy if they wish to do so however this show is not a so called Hollywood movie and many people who have missed one or more episodes can actually catch up by going on-line and watch the shows at selected legitimate sites (a quick search will find them).

      Of course you can download via torrent (no money changes hands) which I think the government would like to stop but there lies the problem, without snooping programs which can determine if a torrent download infringes copyright you have no way of knowing and ISP's would not be happy running this type of software since it would take up resources all for the sake of possibly catching an "illegal" down-loader. This type of thing would not be a vote winner.

      The problem is that many TV shows can be caught up by going on-line and watching them at "legitimate" web sites. Bringing in legislation to block so called illegal torrent downloading will have an enormous voter backlash which no sane government in their right mind would want.

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  2. Follow the money... by uradu · · Score: 4, Informative

    My gut instinct says that very rarely do people in the public eye follow totally altruistic agendas, particularly when it comes to issues like this that have little to do with the common good. If you dig deep enough you can find special interest trails that more often than not uncover these people's true motivators. Just follow the money.

    1. Re:Follow the money... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      My gut instinct says that very rarely do people in the public eye follow totally altruistic agendas, particularly when it comes to issues like this that have little to do with the common good. If you dig deep enough you can find special interest trails that more often than not uncover these people's true motivators. Just follow the money.

      Sen. Brandis is a blustering, bullying, buffoon who just parrots what his advisors tell him. He wouldn't have the intellectual capability to realise that blocking websites is an exercise in futility. Even the previous government figured that out - eventually.
      Last year the US Ambassador to Australia complained to the government about the amount of Australian piracy of "Games of Thrones". This year's season of Games of Thrones will only be shown on Foxtel (pay/cable TV). So, who owns Foxtel - News Ltd, aka Rupert Murdoch's organ. That would be the same Rupert Murdoch who influenced the Liberal Party to totally screw the National Broadband Network (fibre to the home) when they got into office.
      Many Australians are heartily sick of the Liberal Govt already (they were elected last September) on the back of campaign by News Ltd newspapers and the moron part of our society. Oh - and they tried to screw up school funding - presumably to increase the number of morons (Liberal Party voters).

    2. Re:Follow the money... by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I've always wondered why a person is always able to join a party, but I don't think I've ever seen a party kick someone out.

      If you are an Aussie then you need to pay a bit more attention to who is who.

      Most of those booted out of the major party are not MP's at the time. Recent example - "Billionaire miner" Clive Palmer who was at one time the Lib's largest financial sponsor was publically kicked out of the Liberal party prior to the last election. He formed the PUP party and narrowly won a senate seat in the last election and it is likely he will hold the balance of power when the new senate is seated (mid-2014). Clive Palmer recently gained federal permission to dump millions of tons of dredgings from his $30 billion coal port project into a nearby marine park on the reef. If your average Aussie threw a chip packet in the same park they would be heavily fined.

      MP's normally resign their post and keep their party membership, Victorian state politician Tony Shaw uses this to his advantage and has recently forced the resignation of a premier and a house speaker. Liberals have kicked him out of the party and labour refuses to "negotiate" with him, but Shaw still has his seat and still has the balance of power. Shaw and Palmer demonstrate one of the few downsides of having a healthy population of independents elected.

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  3. Fuck Tony Abbott. by YukariHirai · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was never at all fond of Tony Abbott, but since he's come into power I've come to fucking detest him and everything he stands for. I hope he gets knifed for the Liberal leadership before long.

  4. Re:Only has to succeed once... by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

    So you folks down under don't have anything akin to our First Amendment? You could borrow our Constitution. We're not using it.

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  5. As a content creator and an Australian by Sasayaki · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm a self-employed fiction writer, and an Australian, my answer to this is:

    No. Fuck off.

    My longer answer is:

    Why copyright infringement, and why Hollywood? Why do they deserve protection?

    I'm David Adams. I've written and published 30+ books across various pen names and platforms, including compendiums, omnibuses, etc. I self-publish and it's been my livelihood for 17 months. I'm no Hugh Howey but I do okay.

    Every single time that copyright infringement comes up, it's always in the context of Hollywood. Indie writers, singers, artists, producers... we never get a single mention. It's always all about Hollywood. Every time a tariff is discussed, a new law is proposed, it's always protecting a US industry explicitly. I would never see any money from any of the protection schemes suggested by my elected representatives, and if there's not direct funding involved, the suggested courses of action would only ever hurt me.

    My questions for Mr. Brandis, not that he gives a flying fuck about me, are:

    - Why Hollywood? Why are you not helping out our local artists? Is it because we don't donate flaming dump-trucks full of money to your re-election campaigns, and if so, don't you feel that you're actively selling out your local entertainment industries? Shouldn't you be representing *my* interests?
    - Why are you focusing on copyright infringement, something I give zero fucks about and even actively encourage? if you don't buy my book, I'd rather you got it from The Pirate Bay than passed on it, and I make lots of books free to encourage their proliferation anyway. Why fix something that's not broken?
    - As TFS and TFA indicate, this power is sweeping and applies to a lot more than just copyright. The last time the Federal Government tried this, under the banner of child pornography, it was shown (when the list was inevitably leaked) that many more websites were being blocked than simply child fiddling. Innocuous, offensive (but legal), personal grudges... the works. I struggle to believe that this time would be any different, and such blocks are trivial to bypass anyway. Why would you support a system that's fundamentally broken?

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  6. Re:Creationalist by mjwx · · Score: 4, Funny

    What have we done! We've created a monster (aka Tony Abbott). I voted the Pirate Party, myself. /Stolzy

    Yeah, they told me that if I voted for the Greens Australia would be screwed. Well I voted for the greens and look what happened.

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  7. Re:Creationalist by TapeCutter · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Previous attempts to push this stuff have come from opposition or independents with "balance of power" votes. Both major parties for the last 20yrs have used this issue as "bait" for independents, the promise of "inquiry" is normally enough to buy the independents vote, all reasonable observers know the inquiry will go nowhere. This time the push is coming from the federal attorney general, this is something very different and more credible than all the other failed attempts combined. Brandis makes Cheney look like a socialist, his push breaks the 20yr long good/bad cop routine the majors parties have played to screw independents out of their vote (an enemy of my enemy and all that...)

    The last mob were merely incompetent, this lot are malicious and openly hostile to anyone who earns a wage or has a science degree. The "Abbot faction" of senior ministers in this government are all riding the same ideological wrecking ball. They are that far from "reasonable" that even Barnaby is sounding sensible in comparison. Turnbull is not one of the inner circle, when Tony falters, Malcom will eat him alive, when that happens we can go back to the normal incompetence we have come to expect from both sides.

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