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Scientists Create Pizza That Can Last Years

An anonymous reader writes "Researchers at the US Army Natick Soldier Research, Development and Engineering Center have created a pizza that can be stored for up to three years while still remaining edible. 'It pretty much tastes just like a typical pan pizza that you would make at home and take out of the oven or the toaster oven,' said Jill Bates who heads up the lab. 'The only thing missing from that experience would be it's not hot when you eat it. It's room temperature.'"

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  1. the good news by Karl+Cocknozzle · · Score: 5, Funny

    The good news is that after three years it still tastes better than Dominos.

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    1. Re:the good news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The better news is that now MRE's are apparently 'edible'.

    2. Re:the good news by GarethIwanFairclough · · Score: 5, Informative

      The better news is that now MRE's are apparently 'edible'.

      I never thought they were that bad to be honest. At least they didn't have the 'joys' of the "rocks and custard" (''Fruit' dumplings' in something that is supposed to be butterscotch sauce) desert* we Brits sometimes had in our ration packs.

      That said, I didn't have many MRE's, but the ones I did get were okay. That may have been down to luck, the advice of the US troops I worked with, or it may have been that I could stomach just about anything.

      But not the rocks and custard. That one was just fucking minging.

      *As in, "likely to cause desertion".

      Link showing what a typical British ration pack looked like a few years ago; http://www.arrse.co.uk/wiki/24...

    3. Re:the good news by quenda · · Score: 3, Funny

      Holly: Nothing wrong with UA Army pizza. Full of goodness, full of vitamins, full of marrowbone jelly. Lasts longer than any other type of pizza, US Army pizza.
      Lister: Why?
      Holly: No bugger'll eat it. Plus, of course, the advantage of US Army pizza is that when it goes off, it tastes exactly the same as when it's fresh.
      Lister: Why didn't you tell me, Holly?

  2. That's ok by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

    It would still be warmer than the average delivery pizza.

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    1. Re:That's ok by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 2

      It would still be warmer than the average delivery pizza.

      I bet I could heat it up with The World's Most Powerful Laser!

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  3. Three Years? by symes · · Score: 2

    If they only just close enough to finalizing the recipe now how do they know it will last three years?

    1. Re:Three Years? by icebike · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If they only just close enough to finalizing the recipe now how do they know it will last three years?

      These guys invent MREs. That's what they do.
      They have years of experience developing and packaging for long term duration.

      As to how good will it taste in three years, that's based on historical analysis of other similar MREs.
      The Spaghetti MREs are pretty good after three years.

      I know guys who actually like MREs, and bought their own supply for hunting trips after the left the service.

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    2. Re:Three Years? by Deadstick · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The Spaghetti MREs are pretty good after three years.

      I know guys who actually like MREs, and bought their own supply for hunting trips after the left the service.

      Many sporting-goods stores stock MREs. Not bad compared to a lot of camping food.

      I went on a field exercise in 1961 with K-Rats packed in 1943...I'd have been delighted to have MREs.

    3. Re:Three Years? by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 4, Interesting

      My cousin owns a surplus store. I have recently eaten K rations from WW2. The sponge cake wasn't bad.

    4. Re:Three Years? by Mashdar · · Score: 2

      I wonder how the vitamin content will look after three years of storage. "Edible" does not mean you are getting vitamins, and AFAIK vitamin C degredation is a big deal -- as Franklin would attest to. (I know nothing of more modern food preservation techniques, so correct me if I'm wrong.)

  4. Reminds me of something like this in the past... by rts008 · · Score: 2

    I can't remember how long ago it was (a decade or more, IIRC) they were irradiating uncooked food for long term shelf(room temp) storage.
    I think they irradiated some raw chicken carcasses to test, and were going to test and taste them after 10 years.
    I have not heard a single thing about this since.

    Wonder what came out of the 10 year fowl experiment?

    Now, they are trying 5 year pizza. Hmmm.

    Past experience in the military has taught me that when they start experimenting with field rations, nightmares frequently result.

    In my day, fights over the few edible entrees packed in the C-rations resulted in more severe(and numerous) casualties than accidents, Acts of God/Nature, poor planning, and Demon Murphy taking over, than all of 'enemy action' casualties combined during the 'Reign of the C-Rats'.

    If you were the unfortunate troop to find 'beef stew' in you ration pack WITHOUT a p-38 to defend your life, it turned gruesome quickly!(p-38's were only included in one out of five ration packs, and were highly coveted items.)

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  5. Mc Donalds have beaten them by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2
    Wasn't there someone who left a big mac on the kitchen table and planned to take a photo a day as some kind of art project? And the damn thing did not go bad for months? Or was it a hoax or urban legend?

    How bad that pizza must be if even microbes don't like its taste!

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    1. Re:Mc Donalds have beaten them by ArbitraryName · · Score: 2

      It's been done multiple times, fourteen years in one case. They certainly go bad, they just don't change in appearance much.

  6. Programmer Chow by Required+Snark · · Score: 2

    You know, like dog chow or cat chow.

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  7. Re:Nutritional value ? by icebike · · Score: 3

    This problem has been solved for decades.
    Check out the Wiki page on how many different menus there are for MREs.

    As for injuring the soldiers' teeth these are combat rations, MREs, stuff you eat when bullets are flying, and therefore the least of your worries.

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  8. Re:I just wish... by icebike · · Score: 2

    Microwaves for combat rations?
    What are they going to plug them into? A current bush?

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  9. Re:I just wish... by DanielRavenNest · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just hold it in front of the anti-aircraft radar for 30 seconds.

    There's a reason the first microwave ovens were called "Radaranges" (http://www.radar58.com/radarange/radar.html), and were made by the Amana division of Raytheon, a military radar manufacturer.

  10. Re:Cuisine hits rock bottom by jez9999 · · Score: 2

    Nobody is planning to serve it in restaurants.

    ..... or are they?

  11. Re:Nutritional value ? by jiriw · · Score: 2

    Well ... maybe they also use some heat/radiation methods to kill bacteria?
    The article mentions using iron filings to remove the oxygen, which makes me suspect they use an air tight container. So, if you manage to not have any bacteria in there, in the first place, and that air tight container is any good, I don't suspect anything living to take a bite from that slice, except when somebody actually intends to do so.

  12. Re:Cuisine hits rock bottom by sv_libertarian · · Score: 3, Informative

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... No, it was a commercial food product that got adapted for military use.

  13. The Onion reported on this years ago. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And decades ago, Asimov ranted about processed "cheese" that never went bad. His take: if even bacteria won't eat it, is it really food?

  14. Re:I'd rather not. by Immerman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't be a prisoner to the circle! French-bread pizza can be awesome - use the top and bottom halves of a loaf as the crusts and pile as many topping as you can. Use big enough chunks and you can stack that sucker as tall as the original loaf.

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  15. Pizza Hut by Goody · · Score: 3, Funny

    I was going to say they just re-invented Pizza Hut pizza, but then I saw the part about it being edible. At least they don't have to worry about Pizza Hut suing for patent infringement.

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  16. Hydrate level four, please by Trogre · · Score: 2

    This is a good step in the right direction. They now have about 18 months to come up with a fully rehydratable, dehydrated pizza.

    That is, of course, once they've sorted out proper hoverboards and Mr Fusion.

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  17. There's a difference here. by Sable+Drakon · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's 4 years while frozen. Almost anything intended for refridgeration can handle being stored for long-term so long as the temperature holds. This however is 3 years on the shelf with no temperature controls at all. There are very few things that can make that particular claim. Just ask anyone that works in your local Target/Wal-mart/regional groccery about product rotation. Only candy manages to hit the 3 year mark, and that's pushing it.

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  18. Re:Reminds me of something like this in the past.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Past experience in the military has taught me that when they start experimenting with field rations, nightmares frequently result. In my day, fights over the few edible entrees packed in the C-rations resulted in more severe(and numerous) casualties than accidents, Acts of God/Nature, poor planning, and Demon Murphy taking over, than all of 'enemy action' casualties combined during the 'Reign of the C-Rats'. If you were the unfortunate troop to find 'beef stew' in you ration pack WITHOUT a p-38 to defend your life, it turned gruesome quickly!(p-38's were only included in one out of five ration packs, and were highly coveted items.)

    20 years ago, when i was serving in the Greek marines (as a conscript - a requirement for all capable male Greeks), in an joint exercice taking place in Italy i had the opportunity to experience the field rations of several NATO allies. The -unfortunate- USA marines and British royal marines were eager to trade their rations with us Greeks (in the begining we were curious about their "edible thing" -i am not calling it food... sorry!- so we always agreed happily, later we just took pity on them and gave them our rations without demanding theirs), but everyone (including us Greeks) were admiring the Italian ones (almost restaurant level quantity and -more important- quality) - of cource i understand the logistic reasons for that "edible thing" and i even accept that the quality of it was inversely proportional to the fighting ability...

  19. So that's where all the Twinkies went... by dlingman · · Score: 2

    So the army bought all the remaining stocks of Twinkies and converted them into pizza?

  20. Re:I'd rather not. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Funny

    . . . and then put the top and bottom halves back together to make a giant sub sandwich, wrap it in bacon to keep it together, dip it in batter, and deep fry it!

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  21. Re:Nutritional value ? by dead_user · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can assure you the seals on the MRE's are airtight. After Katrina I went through about 5 cases of them myself. The entree's seal is about 8 mils of rubbery but laminated aluminum backed plastic. They have those curls cut in the end that make you think it should be a tear-able edge, but all that happens is the plastic stretches a little. I never had a problem once the knife came out though. Those MRE's are as well sealed as the tires on my car. The M&M's and Skittles were in their standard packaging. The little packets of gum were hard as rocks, and were rumored to contain a mild laxative. I can't speak to that, as I spat them out the instant I stuck them in my mouth. Nasty. I still have a collection of really tiny Tabasco bottles. One with every meal, you know.

    The pasta dishes were by far the tastiest. The chicken cacciatore in particular was quite good. The tomato based sauces were all pretty ok, but they just tasted a little off. Metallic, maybe. The meat entrees suffered a little bit more by the processing. Anything beef was better by than anything pork. The "pork ribs" was a large piece of jerky-style pork pressed into a childs rendition of a Mc-Rib and stored in this weird transparent BBQ sauce preservative. Ewwww. The crackers and packets of peanut butter and jelly were completely normal. The "bread" depended on where the MRE was manufactured. The ones that came from the midwest were better. The bread was a thick fig-newton shaped bar of pressed bread. Ugly as sin, but it tasted OK. The MRE's that were made in the east had bread that was shaped like a bread icon but tasted like cardboard. The only thing that was truly inedible was the omelette. Trust me, trade the omelette for an extra pack of the sport-drink.

    The chemical heaters didn't really do that good of a job heating the food. I suspect that with time, the aggressiveness of the reaction fades a bit. I'd just boil a pot of water and drop the whole entree packets in to heat them up.

  22. Re:Nutritional value ? by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bacteria need 3 things to grow: moisture, time and nutrients

    4th thing: not being already dead.

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