Darker Arctic Boosting Global Warming

The Grim Reefer sends this news from an Associated Press report: "The Arctic isn't nearly as bright and white as it used to be because of more ice melting in the ocean, and that's turning out to be a global problem, a new study says. With more dark, open water in the summer, less of the sun's heat is reflected back into space. So the entire Earth is absorbing more heat than expected, according to a study (abstract) published Monday in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. That extra absorbed energy is so big that it measures about one-quarter of the entire heat-trapping effect of carbon dioxide, said the study's lead author, Ian Eisenman, a climate scientist at the Scripps Institution of Oceanography in California. The Arctic grew 8 per cent darker between 1979 and 2011, Eisenman found, measuring how much sunlight is reflected back into space." The same decrease in ice contributes to the weather circumstances that led to extremely low temperatures across parts of the United States this winter.

Comments

Small problem

[Anonymous Coward]

Small problem with that is this summer had 50% less ice melt in the arctic

Re:Small problem

[Anonymous Coward]

the year after a record year is usually not a record year. it's called 'regression to the mean'. it's an actual thing, look it up.

The letter at the beginning of a sentence should be capitalized.

It's called English grammar, look it up.

And your mention of regression fails to include the possibility of a feedback
scenario which results in an exponential change in a situation which doesn't fit
your high school stats textbook theory.

Nice try. Don't quit your day job.

Re:Small problem

[Anonymous Coward]

"1979 and 2011"

32 years is an odd span.
Why not 30 years, or 25 years.
why not till 2012?
why not till 2013?
why not till Jan 2014?
If things are accelerating the way the lobbyist say, then why not?

guess the years after 2011 doesn't support the agenda.

Re:Small problem

[Pino Grigio]

Once the permafrost is 30% gone the climate hysteria curve flips to the hot side

There, I fixed it for you.

As we've always said

[0123456]

When the planet starts to cool down, the Global Warmers would blame that on Global Warming, too.

The Chicken Littles at it again

[MouseTheLuckyDog]

After running around in circles and sqwaking tirelessly about the sky falling, the chicken littles have invented another reason to get even more scared that the sky is falling.
I say let's have some bbq chicken for lunch!

Re:nope

[MightyMartian]

But the Earth has got warmer. It doesn't mean every spot on the globe warms up.

If you're going to criticize a theory, at least have the wit to understand what it says. Otherwise, you just come off looking like an infantile moron.

Repeat the mantra

[SuperKendall]

Don't forget, all climate change is bad and man-made.

The Earth would have stayed exactly the same temperature forever if we were not here, nor would any animals have ever gone extinct. All days would have exactly the average temperature values and snowfall would never vary year to year.

Re:Repeat the mantra

[SuperKendall]

People die all the time. I wasn't aware that was an argument for allowing them to be murdered...

It is.

Lots of people are dying in Syria now. Do you want to expend millions/billions and many lives trying to stop people from doing what they really want to do?

The whole point of anthropogenic climate change isn't that we should stop climate change, it's that massive CO2 emissions from human sources over the last three centuries are producing far greater and more harmful changes than natural processes.

That's the claim for sure. But it's not proven to be true (the more harmful part). And you cannot REALLY say AGW changes are specifically the reason why we have a polar vortex.

In human history warmer periods are better periods. Anything we contribute to warming is overall helping more people than it hurts. IF we are even creating significant warming over what natural climactic changes would be anyway.

There are two "Arctics"

[jamesl]

The Arctic and the Antarctic.

It's a good thing that the amount of ice in the Antarctic is growing.

Antarctic sea ice extent continues to track very high in January, reaching the second-highest monthly extent in the 36-year satellite monitoring record. New monthly extent records were set for each month between August and November, and December was tied for the record (within the limits of the precision).
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicen...

Re:BS junk science

[gabrieltss]

How about look at the current weather in the north, north central, midwest, and eastern, and southern parts of the U.S.. How much global warming do you see? I see JACK $H!T!