Slashdot Mirror
BREIN Gives Up on Dutch Pirate Bay Blockade
The anti-piracy organization BREIN managed to force major Dutch ISPs to block the Pirate Bay two years ago. XS4all and Ziggo mounted an appeal, and two weeks ago the courts ruled in favor of Ziggo and XS4all with BREIN vowing to appeal. Now it looks like they might have given up on the appeal: BREIN agreed to let the 2nd largest ISP, UPC, lift their blockade of the Pirate Bay pending a possible appeal to the Supreme Court. From the article: "Starting today subscribers of the second largest ISP in the Netherlands will be able to freely access The Pirate Bay once again. According to UPC, anti-piracy group BREIN agreed to a lifting of the ban pending the outcome of a possible appeal in a case against two other Dutch Internet providers. ... In a surprise announcement today, this situation changed. UPC Netherlands, the second largest ISP in the country, said it has decided to lift the Pirate Bay blockade. This is a significant move since the court has yet to decide on the appeal in UPC’s case, a decision which isn’t expected before April this year."
At least that's what they're banking on. First out of the gate wins the prize.
Regardless of the court rulings, ISP blocking was bound to fail. Too many other p2p sites exist or are created and mirrors pop up all the time. ISP blocking is essentially IP whack-a-mole. To many people this result was a foregone conclusion.
Let's hope BREIN gives up on itself soon. The scent of corruption hangs around this organization.
-- Cheers!
It should be clear by now that the productive forces have outgrown the capitalist mode of production, that capitalism is now a fetter on them. But capitalism has created its own gravediggers, the modern proletariat, who whith their revolutionary ascent will clear the way for the socialist future! DOWN WITH SLASHDORT BETA!
UNITE with the Campaign for a Free Internet because today, our future begins with tomorrow!
I really don't think I need to explain why.
Just tried it - indeed no blockade [UPC customer]. Not that it was difficult to circumvent it...
What an amazing day - first at work great results after years of struggle [you know how it is in R&D], now this. Today is a good day for democracy ;)
Reddit.
The story should be, UPC lifted the block -finally-.
If you value your online rights, privacy and freedom, switch to xs4all as ISP.
They lifted this block only hours after the appeal verdict came in weeks ago, and did not wait to see if BREIN would appeal their appeal for weeks like UPC.
Not that UPC is bad perse, but they do not have the hacker DNA xs4all has.
(yes yes my /. uid is low, and so is my xs4all account.)
It's easier to find out who visits the pirate bay by logging all the traffic, in stead of Blocking which totally defeats this purpose.
Next : send a bill to all the subscribers caught piratebaying and profit.
[wdw]
http://torrentfreak.com/torren...
Of course, that's just more evidence that if only the industry made their material legally accessible in unrestricted forms (and save themselves some money by leaving subtitling to the masses, not bothering with behind-the-scenes and extras that aren't exactly the target of 'pirates', etc.), they could have had this revenue instead.
*flips coin on whether or not such a legal offering would end up costing more on lost sales and licensing from those who choose the legal path for legal path sake now, which would have to be substituted by ad revenue then*
As an author one has two interests: That one's works should be widely enjoyed (i.e. the wish to leave a mark on the world, and be popular), and the wish to earn money. In the current system the latter is solved via copyright: Each author has a monopoly on distributing his works for a (very, very long) time, letting him sell copies of his work with little worry of competition. This mechanism works, but it is not optimal because it conflicts with the other goal of authors, which is that one's works should be widely enjoyed. Under copyright, income depends on strict control of copying, and unauthorized copying potentially represents lost sales. The author therefore finds himself trying to stop others from spreading his work, and to limit those who enjoy it to those who bought a copy. His first and second goals are working against each other.
In a perfect system, authors would not have such a conflict of interest with themselves. Several alternatives to copyright exist which solve this problem, but introduce others.
1. Upfront payment (Kickstarter): The author asks for the full payment for his work before he performs it, rather than extracting it gradually over years afterwards. This could be organized in the same manner as the highly successfull Kickstarter: They author creates a Kickstarter page detailing his plan for, say, a new book, with some information about what it would be about, and states a price he wants for writing it (say 50,000€), possibly with some stretch goals (bonus chapter after 100,000€, for example). Potential readers then choose how much money they want to commit. Once enough money to reach the author's price has been reached, he gets the money, and starts working. If too much time passes (time-limit is commonly 90 days with Kickstarter) without the goal being reached, then the potential readers get their money back, and the author must try some other approach.
The advantage of this approach is that since the author has already been paid before he does the work, he does not need to control copying: copies are free, and can be shared freely. The more copies are shared, and the more people who enjoy his work, the easier it will be for him to gather money for his work.
The disadvantage of this system is that it will be hard for unknown authors to find people willing to fund them. Probably, their first book would need to be written for free in order to get enough interested readers for this approach to work. On the other hand, in practice, authors already write their first book for free under the current system (they need something to show the editor in order to be funded), so this is not a serious disadvantage.
Projects of more than $1,000,000 are regularly funded through Kickstarter, and more than 50,000 projects have been funded during the 4 years since its founding. So a Kickstarter-inspired model of up-front payment really looks like it could work.
2. Usage-based payment: In stead of the author selling copies, the state could measure how much his works are used and compensate him accordingly. That would solve his conflict of interest with himself - now it would be in his economic interest to see people share his work with each other. Something similar to this has been in use for some artists in Norway since 1886, though in a much less expansive fashion. An advantage of this approach is that it allows one to make the economic reward non-proportional to the popularity. For example, one could reduce the money per fan per work for the most popular works in order to encourage diversity and avoid super-star effects where a few authors become billionaires while others get nothing (like the current system). A disadvantage of this is that it would require a significant bureaucracy, and there could be difficulties in getting unbiased measurements of popularity of individual works.
3. Donation-based payment: Fans of works could voluntarily donate money to authors. This would make the author's income grow as the number of fans grow, and it would be in authors
People will pay a reasonable price for content make it more easy than pirating.
Such as .99 cents on the Apple Store and elsewhere?
The fact of the matter is people believe they are entitled to take whatever they want without having to pay the artist. Period. You can try to use whatever semantics you want but in the end the result is the same. People have taken something which they do not have a right to and have not compensated the person/group who has created the work.
That made sense years ago when you could just load up firefox, use a search engine, and get what you were looking for. These industries are using PR propaganda to try and deter people from pirating, and for those people that know about the industries abusive tactics it is only angered them into pirating content just so they can snub there noses at the industry.
p2p sharing, while one can learn how it works and how to use it without getting, or at least limiting, there chances at getting caught, it is just better to wait and watch the industry cave in and offer the content for a reasonable price. Then having to go thru the BS of of finding it, and learning how to obtain it.
I dont disagree with your assessment, if people want something and don't want to pay they will obtain it one or another. But you make it sound as if people are doing it in a hardline criminal way, when there doing it because the industries refuses to accept change, I can promise you these industries spent and wasted far more money to impose these ISP bans, and all the other BS they've bought a paid for to deter people from grabbing content, rather then investing in ways of providing it, they then probably wrote that off from there income, giving people the illusion that they lost money because of pirating.
This has been talked about before, there is no evidence that pirating is so wide spread it is losing these industries money, and if fact it looks as if there gaining more business because of it.