Ask Slashdot: How Do You Manage Your Passwords?
Albus Dumb Door writes "As an IT professional, I've got a problem common to many of you: dealing with a lot of passwords. Memorizing them all becomes harder with age and and an increasing number of passwords. I will forget them eventually. I am obviously unable to use something online, like Last Pass and 1Password. Using a single password for all the systems is also obviously out of the question. I know that there are a few apps for cell phones for managing passwords (like Phone Genie and mSecure), but a cell phone, unless it's kept in offline mode (and even then), is still a security risk and I'm pretty sure my employers wouldn't like me having their passwords on my cell phone. I've also taken a look at things like the YubiKey, but changing the authentication scheme of most of the systems is not an option. The only interesting option I've seen so far is the Pitbull Wallet, but they just started taking pre-orders on IndieGoGo and are not expected to deliver until August. Amazon has some hardware password managers as well, like the RecZone and Logio, but either the price or their reviews scared me away. So how do you guys prefer to manage your passwords and what do you recommend?"
It's not portable, and this is just what I do at home so may not scale well to the office, but I've basically got an old intel atom box (MSI Wind PC) running linux (slackware) with no network connection and full disk encryption just using luks/dm-crypt. I keep passwords, banking numbers, and other bits of sensitive info on there. No fancy management software, just plain old text files. I have it hooked up through a KVM and I just leave it running all the time (with locked screen), so it's nothing to switch to it when I need to use an old password or update a password when I change one.
Files are backed up locally using rsnapshot (for history), and then that's periodically copied to one of 2 (also encrypted) USB thumb drives (I leave on plugged in the back and periodically swap them).
Primitive, but sometimes that's what works. You could probably do the same with a raspberry pi at this point (disk encryption might be fun though).
Also this topic comes up like once a month, and the answer has not changed in years. Stop asking!
Completely off topic: what would be the best way to physically disable the wifi capability of a device. Obviously you can disable in software, but I'm the paranoid sort, and would love a way of knowing that my IP web cam is not gonna be doing anything with that wifi antenna. Thinking maybe some kind of terminator or some other way of "absorbing" the signals.
on my desktop.
extensible, open source, active project...what's not to like?
For work, write them down on physical paper and keep them in your physical wallet.
You'll notice if your wallet goes missing.
For home, write them down on physical paper and keep that somewhere safe.
Why is LastPass not an option? The password database is always synced to your laptop/cellphone so there is no problem accessing your passwords when you are offline. The security is the most robust I have found when it comes to password management, especially when you use 2-factor auth.
I use Keepass.
I store my keepass database on dropbox, this way it is accessible from my iphone, ipad and all my laptops and desktops. Any changes I make are synchronized between devices automatically.
Keepass will auto fill in websites with plugins like KeeFox for Firefox, or launch Putty.
I don't even know what my Slashdot, eBay or Amazon passwords are, as they are all about 64 random characters each.
If you choose to go this route, it makes sense to have a very strong passphrase, as such, my passphrase exceeds 128 bits. A key file is also an excellent option.
Try to hack my 31337 firewall!
Maybe I'm an idiot but I don't get why these options are obviously bad. I use 1Password on a regular basis.
I can understand not reading TFA, but did you even RTFS? What part of
I am obviously unable to use something online, like Last Pass and 1Password.
were you unable to understand?
Now, I have absolutely no idea why poster "obviously" is unable to use it, but it's already ruled out.
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
every platform.... except desktop linux?
A failing memory means that you are not suitable for the job and should find something else, like working in a retirement home.
Yeah, how many passwords like: R;3m|/|iv%{^B$
do you have memorized? I have several passwords on that scale of arbitrary, that I did not pick, that I cannot change, that are changed on someone else's schedule, cannot be re-used, and that I tend to need to actually enter maybe once a quarter, if that.
...that would be a security risk.
systemd is Roko's Basilisk.
For the most part I don't save or memorize passwords. I regenerate them as needed with SuperGenPass. SuperGenPass algorithmically generates passwords by hashing the site's domain name together with a single memorized password. This always generates the same password for any given site. So, I don't have to remember them or store them anywhere, I just need to know how they're generated.
But what if I'm at someone else's computer without SGP installed? The SGP website has a "mobile" version, which is just javascript that runs entirely within the browser. Go there, type in the domain and password, and generate it. (Yes, I've checked the javascript. It's not sending your password out to the mothership or saving anything locally.)
I do keep a notebook in a plaintext file with all the sites I use. This contains the domain name that the site had when I first signed up. Domain names sometimes change, or are ambiguous (ie., the same site is available via both foobar.org and foobar.com). The text file lets me keep track of what I need in order to regenerate the password.
What about sites that require periodic password changes? I use the domain and just suffix my memorized password with a sequence number. And I write the sequence number in my notebook.
What's that? Security questions? I generate the answer by hashing the question itself rather than the domain with my memorized password. And of course, I copy the question verbatim into my text file so I can regenerate the answer when I need to.
The only failing is when I hit a site that doesn't allow certain punctuation, or has length limits, or something of that nature. Then I modify the parameters that I give to SGP and write down the specific parameters that I used.
The notebook is stored on my home fileserver in an svn repository which gets backed up every night. I'm completely screwed if I ever forget my one secret, but it's one I've been using for literally decades now. It's going to be one of the last things to go when my brain develops bit rot.
Chelloveck
I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
KeePass. With the encrypted datafile in dropbox.
"Unheard of means only it's undreamed of yet,
Impossible means not yet done." ~~ Julia Ecklar
Systems that generate passwords like that - that you can't change - pretty much demand users write them down on a post-it note under their keyboard :(
Because the OP is totally wrong, is why. 1Password keeps its data file locally. There are all kinds of synchronization features, which you don't have to use if you want to avoid online operations.
OP may have been thinking of 1PasswordAnywhere, which is the all-online version.
I also have them written on a piece of paper, but it wouldn't do you much good if you stole it.
Same here. I use the names of common fruits and vegetables as my passwords. So if anyone steals my wallet, they will assume that my list of passwords is a grocery shopping list.
i think he was also saying "i am a fucking dick".
haha, captcha: "elderly"