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Facebook Wants Drones To Connect the Developing World
judgecorp writes "Facebook is reportedly hoping to buy drone specialist Titan Aerospace in order to provide airborne relays for Internet connectivity in developing countries, as part of its internet.org project. The solar-powered drones are classified as "atmospheric satellites" and can fly for five years. The rumoured project sounds quite similar to Google's Project Loon, which proposes using balloons for the same job." More coverage at SlashCloud, which notes that the purchase is rumored but not yet publicly confirmed.
I thought the same thing. Do they honestly think that people who live in third world shitholes without internet access:
A) Have a computer or tablet?
B) Have nothing better to do than "like" other starving neighbors' boring kid pictures?
*sniffs*
No, that's the distinct odor of things-you'd-think-were-awesome-if-someone-else-was-doing-them.
How can I believe you when you tell me what I don't want to hear?
Do you mean blimps or mini blimps not drones?
I have not heard of solar powered drones.
Finally, decent internet in the East Bay!
These would still have to downlink somewhere, probably into the same "state owned" network as everyone else. FB or whomever would, I'm sure, play along with whatever rules, so long as it meant people got airtime and they got money.
The solution is pretty clear: just implement RFC 1149 and RFC 2460 and connectivity will be fine in even remote areas.
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Are there enough people in the areas to be served with computers to connect in the first place? Also, since these internet drones would have to fly above storm clouds. I did not see in the article (admittedly scanned it) any mention of wireless protocol. I don't think WiFi would be terribly effective. Unless this is exclusively for business, who is going to pay for the adapters and who is going to support them when the do not install correctly or flake out in some other way. As a last hurdle, would the governments of the emerging countries be willing to let an American company deploy such a thing in the wake of the NSA revelations? I wouldn't.
Overwhelming, I would like to see these drones deployed en mass to the endless under served rural areas of America, and if they are doing WiFi, across the expansive cell phone dead space areas so I can at least have an internet connection on my phone while driving for hours across the half of Kansas that isn't populated and other similar areas. Entertain for a moment that Zuckerburg really does want to do this out of goodness of heart (unlikely, I know). I would much rather see him act out of patriotism and work towards creating a seamless blanket of internet connectivity that covers the absolute entirety of the United States of America that lacks connectivity (which is a lot). This goes for Project Loon too.
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s/developing world/emerging market/ this is no different than a cattle farmer targeting a different breed of heiffer for the opportunity to market, say, wagyu beef. the challenge is what to market to someone who only makes 60 cents a day.
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Education.
In most places, education is very non-free.
The cost of even a 'nice' tablet like a nexus 7, over a year will be completely eclipsed if it enables remote learning.
Props to B. But I have a solution based on this. Load drone with 200 lbs of pelleted vegetable seeds encased in dirt, in addition to your 25 lbs of communication equipment and a 25 lb electronic pellet release system. Whenever the batteries reach full capacity, use excess energy from the solar panels to release pellets. After a year or two, the starvation problem will take care of itself, and you still have three years + left of station keeping on the "atmospheric satellite" to sell the now more prosperous population internet access.
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They're largely a century or two behind us in socio-economic development, especially in the rural areas. But they have the benefit of cheap modern technology, so you'd better believe they're developing FAR faster than we did.
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...they'll be very attractive drones.
Mr Zuckerburg wants to solve the world problem such as famine, drought, poverty, disease, etc by giving them free facebook account. I sense someone is going to win the Nobel peace price.
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You think the likely corrupt governments of poor countries will sit idly by and allow a foreign agent to fly drones in their airspace? Particularly if the purported purpose of the drones is to enable seditious speech and organizing?
water might be a bigger problem than seed delivery. Solve the, keep plants appropriately watered and competing seeds at bay and you might have something worth thinking about.
Only I can judge you.
...all the Internets will be Facebook.
On the bright side, though, I can see battles a-brewing over providing even Facebook "enhanced" Internet to oppressed people from the air. Harder to cut that cable, ya know?
Scatter enough seed, and you'll out-compete the weeds. Use appropriate (native) vegetables, and you'll have plants that are matched to the normal rainfall in the area. Scatter enough of them, and mere gathering can take care of the rest.
Of course, this takes interviewing the indigenous people in the area to find out what their favorite vegetables were *before* Monsanto came in to feed them western foods.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Can Facebook go away already? Head the way of the Walkman... in to history and a humorous glance back at what it was, "Wow, did we really use that? Scary!"
Why? net traffic stays within the aloft net, uplink/downlink can either through the airborne net to a lower tariff location or via satellite (since only data in/out would be out of area traffic). Caching of popular data (youtube, buzzfeed, whatever) could be done at a ground station.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Scatter enough seed, and you'll out-compete the weeds. Use appropriate (native) vegetables, and you'll have plants that are matched to the normal rainfall in the area. Scatter enough of them, and mere gathering can take care of the rest.
I see you're truly a Marxist, even in the area of agriculture. Because naivety worked for Soviet agriculture so well...
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It's actually a combination of guerrilla gardening and permaculture and is based in actual experiments. It's also decentralized- you don't actually need drones to do the dropping, anybody can do this in their neighborhood, just by scattering seed.
The idea of using it in the third world is to avoid situations where local governments hoard the foreign aid- if the plants are native, widely scattered, and numerous enough to out-compete the weeds, you don't need fancy NGO programs for the harvest- the starving people will do it themselves.
Look at my tagline again and click on the link there to find out what kind of Marxist I am.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Hate to break it to you, but while some preconceptions still exist the data shows that South America largely exited the so-called "third world" stage some time ago - there's still problem areas, but for the most part you've pretty much caught up with the developed world by most measures. As a rule you're not yet as rich, but you've managed to harness most of the major benefits of modern technology. Asia and Africa are the remaining problem spots, and much of Asia is currently progressing quite rapidly.
It's important to remember that progress is *extremely* uneven in these places, varying wildly from country to country, and even more wildly between different regions within a country - take China for example: The major cities are among the most technologically advanced in the world, yet much of the population are still basically subsistence farmers without electricity, and who are lucky if their region even gets cell-phone coverage. Most of Africa is in far worse shape. Think of your country 50 years ago, and realize that many places still have a ways to go to catch up to that point.
For a rough estimate of technological penetration, I present this image of the Earth at night. Take a look at your region, and compare it to others. Especially Africa.
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/defa...
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According to this article, the coverage for these will be an 18-mile radius.
http://arstechnica.com/informa...
While an air-to-air component could extend that with multiple drones, the whole system is still likely to link to a ground station within a small geographical area. That's why I don't think you'd get out of the "state owned" area, if these were ever employed in such a place.
A major point of these would be to eliminate the satellite link, so a further uplink to a satellite just seems ridiculous.