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Up To 1000 NIH Investigators Dropped Out Last Year

sciencehabit writes "New data show that after remaining more or less steady for a decade, the number of investigators with National Institutes of Health (NIH) funding dropped sharply last year by at least 500 researchers and as many as 1000. Although not a big surprise—it came the same year that NIH's budget took a 5% cut—the decline suggests that a long-anticipated contraction in the number of labs supported by NIH may have finally begun."

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  1. Out of ~22,000 by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 4, Informative

    Without something to anchor your 500-1000 number, who will know how outraged they need to be?

  2. Re:Welcome to a third-rate USA by hey! · · Score: 4, Informative

    On which planet has the anti-tax movement won?

    That would be this one.

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  3. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I want fewer incompetent researchers churning out bullshit papers, and more practicing doctors instead.

    And where do you think practicing doctors get their knowledge? That's assuming they keep up with current research, of course.

    The thing that makes me cringe is when I hear from physicians, "well, in my experience..." On occasion, they happen to be right and other times, well ....

    Physicians are human and are subject to the same bias and irrational thinking as the rest of us. Nothing can replace a well designed study where the results can be reproduced.

    And the nice thing about the NIH, they fund studies that have no commercial value (at least in the short term) that add to our knowledge.

    Some "stupid" study may reveal something that can be used later or spur someone with an idea of their own.

    This mentality of focusing on short term ROI has destroyed our innovation in the US. The last really innovative thing that came out of this country was the Internet and the roots for that were laid down in the 70s.

    It's really sad.

  4. Wrong Title Language by PastTense · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Dropped Out" implies it was the decision of the researchers to quit.

    Instead it was the decision of the NIH to quit funding them.

  5. Re:ÂNational Institutes of Health? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    > theÃNational Institutes of Health is an arm of big pharma, get a clue kids

    You're flying kidding me right? Do you know what NIH is? What kind of dealing they have with big pharmas? They have strict rules on big pharmas involvement. If you don't have proof, don't spout nonsense, you asshole!

  6. Re:Welcome to a third-rate USA by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The GDP is doing just fine as usual. If the people who actually did all the work got to see those gains, we might get somewhere.

  7. Re:Could it be cause of the open-access mandate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Actually, current approval rates for grants are around 10-15% and often grants that are funded are typically facing budget reductions at the time of approval, without any change in the scope or specific aims of the proposal. In many cases the cost of research is increasing but the funds available are not increasing at the same rate, thus few projects are being funded.

  8. Re:Could it be cause of the open-access mandate? by docmordin · · Score: 4, Informative

    As an actual researcher, let me state that your post has little to no bearing on reality. That is, open-access journals do not prevent an individual or group of individuals from artificially inflating various publication metrics. Moreover, agencies look at much more than those metrics, e.g., research output, research impact, past publication venues, and the number of students who are supported and are expected to graduate under a grant, when deciding how to dole out funding.

  9. Re:ÂNational Institutes of Health? by nomadic · · Score: 3

    I personally know many NIH-funded researchers who work on things big pharma doesn't care about. Like malaria vectors.

  10. Meaningless without context by realxmp · · Score: 5, Informative

    Without something to anchor your 500-1000 number, who will know how outraged they need to be?

    And without knowing what those investigators were doing neither number is particularly useful. That's 1000 investigators and their entire lab staff most of them being scientists doing useful research not administrators etc. Unfortunately this doesn't just affect the current generation of scientists, it affects the next generation too. Not all of these labs will close, but there will certainly be a lot less capacity to take students and post docs. How this will impact research is pretty hard to predict, unfortunately it looks a bit more like the blunderbuss approach than the precision cull of the herd with a rifle and scope.

    1. Re:Meaningless without context by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not all of these labs will close, but there will certainly be a lot less capacity to take students and post docs.

      Fewer people will even make it that far when a line of research and certain fields get know to be shrinking. Current grad students, postdocs and young researchers will warn incoming people that things are getting harder and to go try other fields of research or lines of work. It is not like we lose the bottom part of the distribution and the best and brightest continue to do research, but people across the board get dissatisfied or view it as too risky and jump ship. I've watched friends and colleagues fed up from political roller coasters in their own field, and end up going into other work, anywhere from generic software development, to Wall St. to occasionally science or engineering industry work related to what they actually specialized in.

  11. Re:Welcome to a third-rate USA by nbauman · · Score: 5, Informative

    You and I must be reading different journals.

    Perspective: Asia's Ascent — Global Trends in Biomedical R&D Expenditures
    January 2, 2014
    N Engl J Med 2014; 370:3-6
    Owing to cuts mandated by the Budget Control Act of 2011, the NIH budget for fiscal year 2013 was reduced by $1.7 billion, to $29.2 billion — a 5.5% reduction that continued a trend of declining federal funding for biomedical research that began in 2003.2
    Our analysis reveals that U.S. inflation-adjusted R&D expenditures and the U.S. share of global expenditures decreased from 2007 through 2012. The decline is remarkable because the United States has provided a majority of the funding for biomedical R&D globally for the past two decades — a share that some previous analyses suggested was as high as 70 to 80%.2 Moreover, the decline was driven almost entirely by reduced investment by industry, not the public sector, between 2007 and 2012. Sequestration of NIH funding in 2013 and beyond will exacerbate this reduction by causing U.S. public-sector expenditures to decline.
    Although our data set has its limitations, our findings reveal a decline in U.S. financial competitiveness in biomedical R&D and may have implications for the debate over appropriate federal policy in this area. The lack of a coordinated national biomedical R&D strategy is disappointing, at a time when mature economies such as those of Japan and Europe have maintained their level of investment in this area.

    http://jama.jamanetwork.com/ar...
    Funding of US biomedical research, 2003-2008.
    JAMA. 2010 Jan 13;303(2):137-43. doi: 10.1001/jama.2009.1987.
    Funding of US biomedical research, 2003-2008.
    CONCLUSION: After a decade of doubling, the rate of increase in biomedical research funding slowed from 2003 to 2007, and after adjustment for inflation, the absolute level of funding from the National Institutes of Health and industry appears to have decreased by 2% in 2008.

  12. Re:Welcome to a third-rate USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I'm not a big Obama fan (I voted Green the past two elections), but claiming the Democrats have controlled spending for the past 6 years is absurd. The Republicans have controlled the house and the Democrats have done a poor job of negotiating with them (although I'll be willing to accept that the Democrat's goals might not actually differ from the Republicans' as much as they claim).

    On the minimum wage, some graphs of the historical value adjusted for inflation show that $10.10 is in fact matching inflation. It just seems like a large jump because real wages have been decreasing for decades.

    I agree that Obama and the Democratic party have shown poor leadership and handling of the economic crisis, just nitpicking some details.