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How Do You Backup 20TB of Data?

Sean0michael writes "Recently I had a friend lose their entire electronic collection of music and movies by erasing a RAID array on their home server. He had 20TB of data on his rack at home that had survived a dozen hard drive failures over the years. But he didn't have a good way to backup that much data, so he never took one. Now he wishes he had.

Asking around among our tech-savvy friends though, no one has a good answer to the question, 'how would you backup 20TB of data?'. It's not like you could just plug in an external drive, and using any cloud service would be terribly expensive. Blu-Ray discs can hold a lot of data, but that's a lot of time (and money) spent burning discs that you likely will never need. Tape drives are another possibility, but are they right for this kind of problem? I don' t know. There might be something else out there, but I still have no feasible solution.

So I ask fellow slashdotters: for a home user, how do you backup 20TB of Data?"
Even Amazon Glacier is pretty pricey for that much data.

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  1. Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would say use floppies, but I'm kind of old and out of touch now.

    1. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I would say use floppies, but I'm kind of old and out of touch now.

      5 1/4" or 3 1/2"?

    2. Re:Hmmm... by DickBreath · · Score: 4, Funny

      Punched paper tape has better longevity than either floppies or optical media. You just need a really big roll and a lot of time.

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    3. Re:Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      5 1/4" or 3 1/2"?

      8". How young are you?

    4. Re:Hmmm... by Grisstle · · Score: 2, Funny

      Neither, 8" floppies would be the way to go.

    5. Re:Hmmm... by Primate+Pete · · Score: 4, Funny

      You can do the job with a mere 128 million single sided, single density 160K disks, like the one on the original IBM PC. When in doubt, go with proven technologies. Assuming a stack of 4 disks is 1cm thick, you should get away with around 1000 m^3 storage space.

    6. Re:Hmmm... by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 3, Funny

      Neither, 8" floppies would be the way to go.

      Hard sectored or soft sectored?

      It would be best to decide up front before putting in the order for 80 million disks.

    7. Re:Hmmm... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yes, but if he's a Microsoft SW user, he *has* to use 5 1/4" floppies. You see, 8" floppies are insufficiently micro and 3 1/2" floppies are insufficiently soft.

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    8. Re:Hmmm... by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Funny

      Punched paper tape has better longevity than either floppies or optical media.

      If you're going for *actual* longevity, you can't beat fired clay tablets. (Yeah, I know they weren't fired originally, but you have to decide how much you value your MP3 files. I'd certainly take the extra time!)

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      Ezekiel 23:20
    9. Re:Hmmm... by Rhaban · · Score: 5, Funny

      Seed a torrent of it as an encrypted file named "porn.zip" or similar. You'll have it backed up on the cloud for free in no time and available for all of eternity.

    10. Re:Hmmm... by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Once again a slashdotter is advocating to take away a musician's right to make a prophet.

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  2. My solution by StripedCow · · Score: 5, Funny

    Figure out the theory of everything.
    Then you can always recompute your data from scratch.

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  3. Re:reduce the amount by cdrudge · · Score: 5, Funny

    I always rip it to DIVX. 800 MB for a DVD or even bluray rip is a great economy,

    I do the exact same thing with high res pictures. I immediately will take the full resolution raw image and convert it down to a 320px gif. Or maybe a 10% quality jpeg. You get great economy that way too. Who wants to keep a 30+MB image around when you can have almost the same thing in 10kB instead!

  4. Why back it up at all... ask the NSA for a restore by Supp0rtLinux · · Score: 4, Funny

    You could always just call up the NSA and ask them to restore the data. Odds are good they have a copy of it...

  5. Connect a raspberry pi and by Coeurderoy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Connect a raspberry pi and configure it as a backup server and let it copy all to /dev/null...
    Then put aside the money you would have invested in a "better" solution, put it in a safe bank (under your mattress)
    and wait until you need to restore something..
    Most probably you'll enjoy the money more ...

  6. Re:Another RAID? by jones_supa · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's why it is supposed to be used with caution, as no 'rm' supports it. ;)

  7. License? by scsirob · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just assuming that your friend had a fully legal collection, I would think that all he needs to do is ask the media companies for a new copy. Because the media industry tells us that we do not buy music, we buy licenses, right?? So even if we lose the bits-and-bytes which are easy to replace, then we still hold a license and the media companies should facilitate that your friend can exercise his licensed rights..

    [/sarcasm]

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  8. Boxcars / Gigabyte by jabberw0k · · Score: 4, Funny

    If IBM punch cards were used, 1 GB equals approximately 47 cubic yards (assuming 80 bytes per 187x86x0.18mm per card) and about 70,000 lbs (at 2.42 g per card), so one standard railroad boxcar (limited by both cubic capacity and weight) could hold about 3 GB. 20 TB would need over 6000 boxcars of punch cards; at 60 feet per boxcar, that's a freight train about 70 miles long.

    1. Re:Boxcars / Gigabyte by joshuac · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well sure, latency is a bitch but imagine the throughput once it got moving!

  9. Re:math majors by Redmancometh · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now this joke has really come full circle.