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How the NSA Plans To Infect 'Millions' of Computers With Malware

Advocatus Diaboli sends news from The Intercept about leaked documents which show that the NSA is significantly expanding its efforts to build an automated system to compromise computers remotely. From the article: "The implants being deployed were once reserved for a few hundred hard-to-reach targets, whose communications could not be monitored through traditional wiretaps. But the documents analyzed by The Intercept show how the NSA has aggressively accelerated its hacking initiatives in the past decade by computerizing some processes previously handled by humans. The automated system – codenamed TURBINE – is designed to 'allow the current implant network to scale to large size (millions of implants) by creating a system that does automated control implants by groups instead of individually.' In a top-secret presentation, dated August 2009, the NSA describes a pre-programmed part of the covert infrastructure called the 'Expert System,' which is designed to operate 'like the brain.' The system manages the applications and functions of the implants and 'decides' what tools they need to best extract data from infected machines."

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  1. crime? by BlazingATrail · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shouldn't somebody go to jail for this?

    1. Re:crime? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hah. The elite get in trouble for doing something illegal? Was that a joke?

      However, since you pointed out their wrong-doing, you have a chance of being locked up. There is no greater law in these lands than embarrassing or exposing those in power.

    2. Re:crime? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unfortunately, the people most likely to go to jail for this are the people who are letting us know about these abuses of power instead of the people abusing power. The latter will simply cry "TERRORISTS!" at the next Congressional hearing and get (at worst) a sternly worded speech directed at them.

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    3. Re:crime? by hackus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jail?

      Oh, I am sorry...you are thinking of JUSTICE. No no...laws apply to YOU..thats JUST US.

      JUSTICE is for anybody not you, and it works this way:

      1) Eric Holder runs guns for the mexican cartels in a act of subverting the law of the land, the constitution by orchestrating heavy arms into very violent people on the Mexican border hoping the chaos that will inevitably follow through with the subversion of law abiding citizens right to bear arms.

      You know, because, if you have border incidents, they don't want people able to defend themselves.

      While this is going on, DHS is plotting to kill every man women and child in the USA through the acquisition of ludicrous amounts of ammo.

      HOLLOW POINT BULLETS AND SNIPER AMMO, not pistol ammo. MILITARY GRADE AMMO.

      I mean, ammo in the BILLIONS OF ROUNDS. You would need hundreds of MILLIONS of terrorists to justify that sort of purchase.

      Do I need to draw anyone a picture or is it just a coincidence that the population of the USA is about 280 Million?

      280 Million terrorists.

      Yeah, terrorists because you don't like having your money confiscated when the banker cronies come and take it all.

      2) Look at these lawless people and the BANKS THAT SUPPORT THEM.

      New data centers that are funded for criminal industrial espionage, which is the primary activity of the NSA, with PRINTED dollars, because the economy could never afford to build any of this stuff.

      From the NSA data centers to the really outrageous F35 program, which cost about 2 trillion to maintain a world wide fighter force of F35's when fully deployed.
      (Probably more and if they can ever deliver it because they can't get the thing to work.)

      Does anyone know what we collect in taxes? It's about 2 trillion. No really, go look it up. ALL of the collected tax revenue for one year, would go JUST for maintaining a fleet of F35's world wide on all of those bases we have.

      Meanwhile these BANKERS print money and destroy the dollar value and as a result creates mischief. If you spend 2 trillion on air planes, you logically have to print the rest of the money to pay for everything else.

      The SAME MISCHIEF THAT IS GOING ON IN THE UKRAINE right now. Did you see who they hired?

      A Banker. A nice London Banker!

      These people are everywhere and where they go lawlessness follows.

      3) Have you noticed our youth have no where to go? You know why? Well, for one thing the economy is totally managed by the federal reserve.

      The whole thing is rigged. LIBOR. Rigged. Silver Gold Prices, Rigged. Stock Market...

      RIIIIIIIIGGGGGGEEEEEEEDD!

      You tell me how the stock market can be so high when there is virtually no growth ANWYHERE IN THE WORLD, let alone the United States, which has like 35% unemployment.

      You know once upon a time we had laws in place so Bankers couldn't control everything through monopolies. We use to have like a huge number of banks in the USA. Laws were put there so that the banks could not combine and do a EPIC meltdown, or forge any mischief. What do we have now?

      5 banks controlling like 85% of the market? What happens when one of them goes titsup?

      Yeah, remember the Anti Trust laws? Remember the glass steagall laws?

      Yeah they got rid of them. You know why?

      Because they want to steal it ALL that is why, and they don't want to be held accountable for ANYTHING.

      Justice is for JUST US, NOT THEM.

      I am not even going to go into OBAMA CARE, because at this point I am really freaking ticked off at all of this banker mishief and the hollowed politicians from our so called TWO PARTY, really ONE PARTY system.

      ONE PARTY to SCREW YOU.

      Two Party so they can laughably claim you have a choice when you vote.

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  2. Re:Skynet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is there any way to avoid such a thing short of cutting my net connection?

    Wouldn't do much good. They have a plethora of ways to extract information from your computers even if there is no internet connection.

    But I personally have nothing to hide.

    Yes you do. I'm not even going to go on about the "the average person commits 3 felonies a day without even knowing it," speech and instead just point out that everything you do in your private life is just that: private. It is yours, and unless they have a warrant, "they" (whoever "they" may be in your country of choice) should not have access to it under any circumstances. That, and even if you don't think you are a valid target, "they" might disagree. There's a number of people out there that thought they were safe and could trust the system, but you know how that turned out. Most recently, Feinstein is finding that she has been bitten by the very same spy machine she's been feeding, or how about Petraeus' mistress that was exposed through the use of so-called "meta-data."

    However, you're absolutely right that even if someone perceives themselves to not be a target, they should still move towards securing themselves.

  3. Re:Skynet? by The_Human_Diversion · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is there any way to avoid such a thing short of cutting my net connection? Generally I am not too worried about the NSA. I think it is BS what they do as far as invasion of privacy. But I personally have nothing to hide. But this has completely changed the small amount of reluctance I had in becoming a "ZOMG da sky iz fallinz!" type.

    The "I have nothing to hide" argument is quite the slippery slope. Do you truly, really, honestly have nothing to hide? Let's put up cameras in every corner of your house, then. Perhaps we can get full copies of your bank statements? You may trust the NSA as a whole, but Snowden already showed that even a single bad apple can ruin a lot of days. What if he leaked compromising information of private citizens as part of his escapades? Would you have something to hide then? Hyperbolic? Sure. But because we've had even just a handful of instances of people having their lives screwed while innocent because surveillance - legal or illegal - uncovered something about them, it's a valid point. Read more. (article about why privacy matters)

  4. So now we now the NSA's plans for growth... by Are+You+Kidding · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is my Kaspersky Antivirus going to find and remove their viruses? Or even better, perhaps some enterprising hacker will write a tool that that sends its own malware back through the NSA bot net and trashes their servers. When I was a youngster "We Have Met The Enemy and He Is Us" was amusing. Now it it taken as a guiding principle by our intelligence services. It's sad.

  5. When am I going to get rid of this tinfoil hat? by dweller_below · · Score: 5, Insightful
    So, now it turns out that the NSA really was attacking me. Just because I ran the routers and a few other critical things.

    20 years ago, when I first started ranting about the NSA it was mostly theoretical. I ranted because there was no proof they were not evil. The stickers on my laptop's mic and camera were a bit of a joke. People would ask about them and it would give me a chance to rant. That's all I really wanted. A chance to rant from time to time.

    But, now it is clear that all my rants were too conservative.

    Now I am doing IT security for a university. I spend all day attempting to hold off the attacks of foreign governments. Some of those attacks now appear to be my own government. I never really wanted to be this paranoid. And it still appears that I am not paranoid enough.

    When will I ever be able to take off this stupid tinfoil hat?

    Congress keeps railing against money wasted on social programs. It appears the NSA and the CIA are elaborate social programs for sociopaths. Why can't we defund them?

  6. Re:Skynet? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People with nothing to hide can still get wrongfully convicted with circumstantial evidence.

  7. Re:Linux version? by mspohr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Linux is more secure.
    Also, Linux is less of a target.
    I'm glad that I use Linux. I'm also happy that most people don't use Linux.

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  8. Re:crime? Sovereign Immunity. by Riceballsan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I agree with the fact of the rediculousness of how the government can do crime in many ways that would otherwise be illegal. Equating taxes to it is just plain stupid. Taxes are logical payments for services in which the government can and does provide. IE the roads, the oversight into companies to prove that our food isn't entirely relabeled rat droppings, fire departments etc.. Now is it done perfectly or even well? Not in the least, but no matter what a functioning society is going to need a tax system. Even if a perfect rebuilding of government happened, taxes would absolutely be a necessity.