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Obama Administration Transparency Getting Worse

schwit1 writes "The government's own figures from 99 federal agencies covering six years show that halfway through its second term, the administration has made few meaningful improvements in the way it releases records. In category after category — except for reducing numbers of old requests and a slight increase in how often it waived copying fees — the government's efforts to be more open about its activities last year were their worst since President Barack Obama took office."

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  1. Most Transparent Ever! by prisoner-of-enigma · · Score: 5, Insightful

    “This is the most transparent administration in history,” -- Barack Obama, February 2013

    "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." -- Napoleon, Animal Farm, by George Orwell

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    1. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      At least they're transparent about their transparency.

    2. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by DigitAl56K · · Score: 3, Insightful

      “This is the most transparent administration in history,” -- Barack Obama, February 2013

      He must have been speaking about how obvious their stance with regarding releasing information was.

      But to make a counter-point, much as I loathe to do so, it's also possible with all the NSA/Snowden stories that they have faced more requests for documents that are classified than typical. It would be nice to see the chart from TFA displayed as a 100% breakdown rather than a stacked breakdown.

    3. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by poetmatt · · Score: 2

      Anything refused under that angle is basically denial of working with the FOIA process, basically using "national security" as an excuse to get out of everything via the loophole as designed.

      That is exactly a lack of transparency, not an excuse for it.

    4. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      âoeThis is the most transparent administration in history,â -- Barack Obama, February 2013

      Anyone who is surprised by this, hasn't been paying attention to Obama in... oh, about 5 years.
      I would think he has violated enough of his promises to be impeached.

    5. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by funwithBSD · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Transparent as in we can see right through this bullshit.

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    6. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by TheCarp · · Score: 3, Funny

      Perhaps that is what he meant about most transparent administration? You know, kind of like trying to beat the world land speed record.... oh wait thats fast...for single wheeled vehic....oh how about single wheeled electric, multi-passenger vehicles? What No record?....oh we have that so beat!

      Set the bar low enough, and you barely need to step over it.

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    7. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by CharlieG · · Score: 0

      But of course, it is all Bush's fault, due to the regulations and rules he put into effect

      Bueller? Bueller?

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    8. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by msauve · · Score: 1

      Give him a break - he's a politician.

      They only make the promises. It's up to someone else to keep them.

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    9. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Impeachment is usually reserved for those who break the law. Lies are not against the law unless told under oath.

    10. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by noh8rz10 · · Score: 2

      I look forward to the Slashdot Socialists finding some way of blaming this on Bush, Bush, Busch or bush*.

      *H.W., W., Gardens, or that bit of flora near the Rose Garden

      dude, the bloom is off the rose. even the socialists have lost their love for obama. I think there are many reasoned arguments that can support obama's policies and actions, but the fanbois have moved on. for me it was the NSA thing.

    11. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by SuricouRaven · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Pretty much. Obama ran on the platform of 'change.' He isn't bringing it. The only reason his supporters continued to support him last election was because a democrat not advancing their agenda would still be better than a republican openly fighting against it.

    12. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by DarkOx · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He has broken the law plenty too, but the House won't try impeachment because they know the Senate majority does not care the law has been broken they are going to protect their guy.

      The GOP learned its lesson the last time around, its not politically useful to impeach a president unless you have a Senate willing to follow through with a conviction and removal from office.

      As far as anyone else doing anything about it, the SCOTUS will find some weasel wordy way to conclude they haven't got standing.

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    13. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Seriously? Republican or Democrat, Liberal or whatever.. it makes no difference.

      http://www.ted.com/talks/lawrence_lessig_we_the_people_and_the_republic_we_must_reclaim

    14. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would love to give all politicians a break...somewhere around C1 or C2.

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    15. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by interkin3tic · · Score: 2

      I'm not even sure at this point WHY they're moving towards opacity. (Is opacity the opposite of transparency when it comes to government?) He's not going for another term, so it's not like hiding details from the voters is going to get him another term. And he's obviously not going to get in real legal trouble, he'd be pardoned by whoever the next guy was, worst case scenario. He's keeping Bush administration secrets about torture secret. He was elected in part because people thought he was an anti-bush. You'd think self interest alone would cause him to expose it during his first term. He's not winning any support from anyone for continuing the war on terror, his supporters dislike it, most voters are apathetic, and the opposition is doing anything they can to stop him no matter what.

      The only thing that makes sense to me is that the administration is actually convinced it's important for national security. I'm not open-minded enough to believe torturing people in secret keeps anyone safe, so it's frightening that the administration is that deluded.

    16. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You have forgotten the Democrat Catechism

      "Everything Is Bush's Fault, Now, and Forever. Amen"

      Now go say 3 "Our Obamas" and 4 "Hail Hillarys"

    17. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bush AND Clinton allowed/facilitated 911. Government cannot put an operation like that together in less than 8 months.

    18. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Sarius64 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Racists!

    19. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pretty much. Obama ran on the platform of 'change.' He isn't bringing it.

      Well that does it. I am not voting for him again.

    20. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by kenj0418 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I would love to give all politicians a break...somewhere around C1 or C2.

      This would require that they have a spine - so that leaves out 99% of politicians.

    21. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Feyshtey · · Score: 4, Informative

      He took an oath to protect and defend the Consitituion. He's not only failed to do so, but he's actively campaigned against the laws and procedures in regard to it. He's ignored it by circumventing or coopting the co-equal branches. If that's not ipeachable actions I dont know what is.

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    22. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by lexman098 · · Score: 2

      The problem with this is that it just pushes the pendulum back a little bit more. I just opted to throw my vote away in protest.

    23. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      Apparently you all are looking past it. Republicans and democrats will keep winning elections because people will only vote for what is being spoon fed to them and the decline will continue.

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    24. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a democrat not advancing their agenda would still be better than a republican openly fighting against it.

      Paraphrasing a comment I heard:
      "My vote choice is between the guy who says the things I like but will not do any of them and the guy who says the things I hate and is certain to to do at least some of them"

    25. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by argStyopa · · Score: 1

      At least we can count on the fact that there aren't any lobbyists in Washington anymore!

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    26. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's amazing you have to prove you are actually harmed by NSA spying to get standing, when our core concept in creating a government is the assumption government is up to no good and will abuse power.

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    27. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by martas · · Score: 2

      its not politically useful to impeach a president unless you have a Senate willing to follow through with a conviction and removal from office.

      That, or it's not politically useful to [try to] impeach a president for shit they know they're going to do themselves in 4, 8, 12, or 16 years

    28. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

      That's too bad. You should've voted for an independent or third-party candidate. I didn't throw my vote away; I voted for Jill Stein.

      If you don't live in a swing state and you've been voting for the republicrats, you've been throwing your vote away. Wake up and help us flush these shits down the toilet.

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    29. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by NuAngel · · Score: 2

      Kept more promises than broken... but there are a LOT of broken and a lot of "muddied" campaign promises. http://www.politifact.com/trut...

    30. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by lexman098 · · Score: 2

      I did vote for a third-party/independent. Like I said...

    31. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My two cents, impeaching Obama would be a huge political blunder for several reasons: 1)The GOP would be accused of being a bunch of racist white guys poisoning, the brand even more, 2)the media circus would spin the procedings into a witch hunt, 3)no matter the results it will increse the brinkmanship currently ruling DC and 4)if Obama was impeached and removed from office, we'd end up with Biden (which NOONE wants). If you notice this analysis makes no judgement on if Obama or his administration has done anything worth being impeached, merely the political fallout of what would happen if the GOP tried.

    32. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Gothmolly · · Score: 0

      No its because they bought into the Obama mystique because they were afraid of being called racists, and can't publicly reverse their position for the same reason.

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    33. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 2

      That you classify this as throwing your vote away is sad.

      Perhaps you're not familiar with the fact that gaining even small numbers of votes helps candidates with future fundrainsing efforts, public campaign financing, etc.

      Perhaps you're not aware of the fact that meaningful political shifts in this country tend to coincide with third parties gaining the attention of the electorate.

      Perhaps it's news to you that the only way to throw away your vote in this country is to vote for the democrats or the republicans who don't need your vote to split the win between the two of them anyway.

      You've got it backwards, my friend. Voting third party is the only way to make your vote count.

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    34. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by HiThere · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but no. It's a system designs problem...except that those in power don't see it as a problem.

      The basic problem is that the election process is plurality wins rather than majority wins. This ensures that the winner will be one of no more than two major parties when the system is in a stable or quasi-stable state. Third parties have essentially no chance. This is unlike a majority wins election where you have either multiple rounds of voting, or you condense the multiple rounds via some sort of ranking system. Condorcet is my favorite of these, but Instant Runoff Voting is nearly as good and is much easier to explain.

      FWIW, it can be mathematically proven that there is no electoral system that will come to a fair decision in all cases (where fair means that most of the voters agree with the decision), but plurality wins is the worst of the five systems included in the study (which also included Condorcet and Instant Runoff).

      Actually, I believe that a lottery would be far superior to the current system, if the pool of qualified candidates were large enough. A large part of the problem is that in major elections both of the plausible winners have incurred political debts to supporters that they are obligated to pay off. A lottery will usually select someone who has the popular opinion on most issues. And we've already had some real winners winning elections. (A late stage altzheimers patient was one of the most popular presidents, believe it if you can.)

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    35. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Enough C4 will insure that there's a break around C1 or C2. But with enough, you don't need to worry if they're spineless.

    36. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by sirlark · · Score: 1

      Oh for mod points! Well played sir, well played!

    37. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by lexman098 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you're not aware of the fact that meaningful political shifts in this country tend to coincide with third parties gaining the attention of the electorate.

      I believe this is the protest effect I was going for. The big 2 get scared when this happens.

    38. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 3, Interesting

      While we're on this "fuck the republicrats" sidebar, I'd like to take this opportunity to spam you about WOLF-PAC.

      I found out about them here on slashdot, and I've been supporting their efforts ever since.

      The idea is to do an end-run around the federal legislature and get a supermajority of state legislators to agree to campaign finance reform. Undo Citizens United and a whole slew of other "money in politics" problems by threatening to get another amendment tacked onto our federal constitution.

      In the past, even the threat of such a possibility has caused the federal legislature to act. It's actually not as loony of an idea as it initially sounds. I highly recommend you look into WOLF-PAC, if you haven't already. And yes, they should've picked a less-silly name.

      This country needs more critical thinkers involved in the political process. That's a problem because usually critical thinkers know better than to get involved in this shit. However, that may be a luxury that we can't much longer afford.

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    39. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by labnet · · Score: 1

      “This is the most transparent administration in history,” -- Barack Obama, February 2013

      "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." -- Napoleon, Animal Farm, by George Orwell

      I read his autobiography. He is a nobody who came from Chicago, thus sombody owns hiss ass; I'm just not sure who.

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    40. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had never heard of him before he won that senate seat that he ended up doing nothing with. I was watching the news that night and there was live footage from his campaign headquarters where they were celebrating, he came across as a much different man back then. It's always been obvious to me that someone was grooming him from behind the scenes after that.

    41. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by h4ck7h3p14n37 · · Score: 1

      Given that very large percentages of the population can't be bothered to cast a ballot during elections, how can you claim that money in politics is the problem?

    42. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

      Touche.

      Money in politics is a problem. An uneducated and ignorant population is the problem.

      Can you blame people for trying to tackle the "easier" problems first?

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    43. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not even sure at this point WHY they're moving towards opacity. (Is opacity the opposite of transparency when it comes to government?) He's not going for another term, so it's not like hiding details from the voters is going to get him another term.

      What makes you think he told the truth when he said that? As pointed out here and elsewhere, Obama's greatest skill is lying. In any case, what if he isn't going for another term, but instead just decides not to step down at the end of his term? He already acts more like a king than a president, so why not quit pretending?

    44. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're called Republicans, and yes, it's their biggest problem going forward.

    45. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by guises · · Score: 1

      Well I don't know about love, but I still think that he's been a pretty good president. Just not everything that I had hoped. Virtually all of the criticism against him hasn't stood up to scrutiny when I've taken the time to actually look into it.

    46. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      yup, undo the one SCOTUS decision that actually gives people a chance to "spread the word" in the modern equivalent of of the Founding Fathers printing and spreading pamphlets. Have you even read the Citizens United decision? Do you even get the irony alluded to in the majority opinion about how ridiculous it is for any of the "media" commentators to talk about how the majority opinion was wrong because to do so is to argue that the "media" commentators should not have the right to talk politics? Or are you unable to formulate opinions of your own and just regurgitate whatever Rachel and Chris blather on about?

    47. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by kwbauer · · Score: 1

      Yup. Didn't vote for Obama because I was against his stated position on the 2nd amendment (the honestly stated position before he began campaigning for POTUS), didn't like that he seemed to be wanting to expand all kinds of social welfare programs, etc.

      But, you must be totally correct. I'm white and didn't vote for the black guy only because I'm a racist. Does that make the Democrats in the Democrat leaning district in Utah that voted for the white, male Democrat over the black, female Republican also racists or can only those who vote against Democrats be racist now. The definition has drifted so much over the years it is difficult to keep up.

    48. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      “This is the most transparent administration in history,” -- Barack Obama, February 2013

      Hmm think that needs fixin'

      “This is the most transparent administration in history... LOL JK” -- Barack Obama, February 2013

      That's better!

    49. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by NoImNotNineVolt · · Score: 1

      Indeed, prior to Citizens United, the "media" commentators really didn't talk politics. Thank god for this court case, otherwise Rachel would still be an NFL commentator and Chris would still be stuck doing human interest stories.

      Thank you for the morning chuckle. If you feel that the Citizens United decision makes this country a better place, you must be either very rich or very stupid. In any case, most Americans don't see any irony in wanting to get money out of politics. It's unlikely that most Americans are regurgitating whatever Rachel and Chris blather on about, as Fox News leads the pack in terms of ratings.

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    50. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      The first part of your post was semi rational. I'm asking what motivation he has for the lying in this specific case. I don't think he's just a pathological liar who lies for fun. There's got to be a motive for the coverup, one I can't understand.

      As for the second part, don't engage in such hyperbole. You're only degrading any discussion going on here.

    51. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      No, people voted for him because he was marginally better than the Republican. That doesn't really mean they supported him. "Support" seems to imply some level of enthusiasm. Among many, there was no enthusiasm.

      However, there were many who did really support him (enthusiastically). The Obama voters seemed to break into two camps: one camp of disillusioned people angered by his broken promises and continuation of Bush policies, but who voted for him anyway because Romney would likely have been worse in their opinion, and another camp of idiotic sycophants who changed their opinions to fit Obama's actions, and became enthusiastic defenders of NSA spying.

    52. Re:Most Transparent Ever! by fustakrakich · · Score: 1

      ...I believe that a lottery would be far superior to the current system...

      Exactly the system I have advocated, along with conscription to serve, like a military draft. Only with a random system can we ensure there is no careerism, with all the resulting corruption. It is supposed to be a public service. In and out, nobody gets hurt. Judging who is "qualified" should be simple, anyone over 18 or 21, or 25 if you want to use the car rental standard. We don't want people deciding who is qualified beyond that, and we really shouldn't want anybody who wants the job. Those kinds of people are a big part of the problem.

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  2. "halfway through its second term" ? by bob_super · · Score: 0

    Unless someone is planning to pull a Kennedy on him, he's got 34 months to go...

    1. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by bobbied · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unless someone is planning to pull a Kennedy on him, he's got 34 months to go...

      Oh please NO! I don't want to get Biden as president with all the sympathy of having to take over under those circumstances. Not on your life.

      I'll keep the guy I know over dementia prone Biden who would be wheels off nuts. Obama will be totally emasculated by the end of this year when his party looses the Senate. Let him spend his last two years in office planning for his presidential library. If we are ever going to fix this, he has to stay in office and be marginalized as much as possible.

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    2. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by duckintheface · · Score: 1

      He is one quater through his term. And he is through playing nice.

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    3. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by JDAustin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You really think Obama is going to act like other former presidents and leave DC for Chicago or Hawaii? His ego would never allow for it. He will stay in DC and be a thorn in the side of whoever the next president is (Dem or Rep).

      As to Biden....tell me again why Palin was so bad compared to Biden again?

    4. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      I agree he has to stay in office. We need to make absolutely sure he takes the blame for all his fuck-ups.

      It would great if the GOP could take the Senate. It would possibly enable them to castrate the Affordable Care Act, and it would be worth it in that sense, but I am not optimistic.

      Its just to many seats to pickup. In some ways its better if they don't get the Senate. It will make 2016 election simpler because it will be more possible to blame the DNC/Obama. It might at that time be possible to grab the Senate and the Presidency; especially if the House GOP members behave themselves for the next two years. Avoid fights they can't win, try not call women whores etc.

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    5. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by bobbied · · Score: 0

      You really think Obama is going to act like other former presidents and leave DC for Chicago or Hawaii? His ego would never allow for it. He will stay in DC and be a thorn in the side of whoever the next president is (Dem or Rep).

      Perhaps, but if he looses the Senate, he's going to take two brutal years of signing the veto line over and over or he will have to "play ball" and compromise. I'm hoping his narcissistic mind set won't let him stick around a group of people not singing his praises and doing his bidding and he will run off with his tail between his legs after 24 months of getting hit by the rolled up newspaper over and over.

      Of course, he could try to sick around and try and rescue his legacy. I just figure it's less likely to happen after 24 months of beatings and if his party has abandoned him.

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    6. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because Palin was a soundbite politician. She had an open distaste for carefully considering all sides of an issue, favoring the use of quick slogans ('Drill Baby Drill') to win over the unthinking. It's always hard to tell a politicians image from reality - behind closed doors she could have been a genius in all things - but the image she carefully projected was of the quick-thinking renegade who didn't have the time to actually read any reports or listen to advisers, but instead promised she could run a country on gut instinct and American luck.

    7. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Don't worry, there's no way the GOP doesn't take the Senate. What probably won't happen is that they won't get the veto-proof majority, but come the end of this year, we'll be looking forward to a GOP House and Senate. There's no way it doesn't happen, even Democrat advisors admit as much.

      It is absolutely essential we kill the ACA dead. If we don't, people will start to rely on it, and then, much like Social Security, we'll never be rid of it. I'd much rather put a stake in ACA and lose 2016 (which in unlikely, incidentally, if history is any guide) than have it stick around and start going into effect.

    8. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yeah, because the GOP has proven that once in power, they govern for the benefit of all, compromise with minority positions, and pursue policies that balance the interests of capital and labor.

      Oh that's right, they nominate telegenic yes-men who rubber stamp a pre-existing agenda that inflames international tensions and entrenches white, christian, business owners disproportionately into positions of power.

    9. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by ganjadude · · Score: 1, Informative

      well, not for nothing but she and other republicans (and other democrats) correctly predicted we would be having problems with russia and that they are still a treat to freedom. Obama took cheepshots at her and romney and now look at whats happening, imperialist russia crawling back

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    10. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      *threat - not treat

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    11. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because Palin was a soundbite politician. She had an open distaste for carefully considering all sides of an issue, favoring the use of quick slogans ('Drill Baby Drill') to win over the unthinking. It's always hard to tell a politicians image from reality - behind closed doors she could have been a genius in all things - but the image she carefully projected was of the quick-thinking renegade who didn't have the time to actually read any reports or listen to advisers, but instead promised she could run a country on gut instinct and American luck.

      s/Palin/Obama/g

      And no matter how much you HOPE nothing will have CHANGEd.

      What was that you said about "win[ning] over the unthinking"?

    12. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by approachingZero+ · · Score: 3, Informative

      Unless you do some research on your own and look at her very real track record of reform in Alaska, then yes she is only a soundbite politician.

      It would be more accurate to say she was a working class mother who ran for office and made changes to a state rife with cronyism. Unless you do some research on your own and look at her very real track record of reform in Alaska, then yes she is only a soundbite politician.

      She is / was a working class mother who ran for office and made changes to a state rife with cronyism.

      But she didn't have the right pedigree, and she had that funny accent, and she presented a threat to the status que, so she had to be portrayed as a caricature that the left felt politically correct to destroy.

      Some people bought into the program. 'the image she carefully projected was of the quick-thinking renegade who didn't have the time to actually read any reports or listen to advisers, but instead promised she could run a country on gut instinct and American luck'

      It's no wonder we have the Tea Party, and this year (if the IRS is held in check) things will start to change.

      Ask yourself this, what is the accepted image of the Tea Party as put forth by the media? Why is that?

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    13. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by bobbied · · Score: 2

      Because Palin was a soundbite politician.

      Which politician ISN'T after the soundbite? With the media today, it's ALL about the soundbite, because they refuse to actually spend 5 min explaining what the real positions are. It takes too much time and doesn't sell advertisements.

      But I have a few sound bites for you to classify... "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Period." "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." "not even a smidgen of corruption" "What difference does it make" or to include the original article, "the most transparent administration in history."

      Palin wasn't exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer, but we would have been worlds better off with that administration over what we got and the headlong rush into partisan bickering that ensued.

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    14. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Quila · · Score: 5, Insightful

      favoring the use of quick slogans ('Drill Baby Drill') to win over the unthinking

      "Yes we can," "Change we can believe in," "Common sense gun laws," "Most transparent administration"

    15. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is lose, not loose.

      Examples:
      loose:
      "Loose the senators!" *pack of rabid old men begin to run after bundles of dollar bills dragged behind horses*

      lose:
      "You apparently failed to study English, you lose! Good day sir!"

      This post was brought to you by the letters F and B and the numbers 14 and 88.

    16. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by bob_super · · Score: 1

      > It is absolutely essential we kill the ACA dead. If we don't, people will start to rely on it, and then, much like Social Security, we'll never be rid of it.

      ACA needs time to fail, so that the inevitability of single-payer takes root.
      Single-payer, that atrocious idea shared by almost all advanced countries, including these evil aging Germans with their balanced budget...

    17. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by QuantumPion · · Score: 1

      Braindead soundbites like this gem from 2008?

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PMmY20nJ8E

    18. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Yaknow, I'd take gut instinct and American luck over career sociopath politicians anyday. How about you?

      --
      Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
    19. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by wiredlogic · · Score: 0

      It's always hard to tell a politicians image from reality - behind closed doors she could have been a genius in all things

      She isn't. Palin is a prom queen with an overinflated sense of importance with a healthy dose of personality disorder to motivate her.

      --
      I am becoming gerund, destroyer of verbs.
    20. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Fortunately single payer is so blatantly unconstitutional that not even calling it a "tax" could save it from the Supreme Court.

      If you want single payer, take it to the state level, where it belongs. Keep the federal government out of healthcare.

      That way, when the states dumb enough to implement single payer crater, the rest of us will still be able to move to Texas and enjoy the America we grew up loving. There's a reason Texas is growing faster than any other state in the Union, and it sure isn't Obamacare!

    21. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately single payer is so blatantly a good idea that nothing could save it from the greedy scumbags profiting off our ill-health

      There. FTFY.

    22. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Feyshtey · · Score: 0

      You're not actually expecting the the people that elected Obama to come back and admit that Romney was right, are you? I'm pretty sure they spontaneously combust if they admit they are wrong. Ever.

      --
      "But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,..." - Nancy Pelosi
    23. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Feyshtey · · Score: 1

      With the media today, it's ALL about the soundbite, because they refuse to actually spend 5 min explaining what the real positions are.

      You make it sound like they spent 5 minutes finding out what the position of the person is, rather than scanning for the R or D of policitcal affiliation in the bio and regurgitating their owned canned stereotypes provided them by their news organization.

      True journalists are an endangered species.

      --
      "But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,..." - Nancy Pelosi
    24. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by blueturffan · · Score: 1

      Congress doesn't pass ideas, they pass laws. And we expect them to be faithfully executed.

    25. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

      Uh, wtf is he gonna do in DC? Clinton had a much bigger ego than Obama. He's nowhere near to DC.

    26. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      So you're saying she should have skipped vice president and gone straight for the top spot?

    27. Re:"halfway through its second term" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I love how the above reverse racist snit got modded Informative. Neither of you -poster and moderator- know much about the GOP. Or is it that much better to entrench black muslim businessmen simply because they're black and/or muslim? Is that so preferable, is that how we fix this supposed problem? You forgot to mention homophobic/gay, by the way. You might as well go the full 9 yards.

  3. Bush's fault. Obama the Man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yep, I went there!

    See folks, no thanks to Dick Chaney, the Bush Administration grabbed more power for the Executive branch.

    And when folks like me protested, we were labeled "Liberal" or "UnAmerican" or some such derogatory term.

    Now, the next guy has all that power.

    See?

    Our Constitution has checks and balances for a reason. A BIll of Rights for a reason. And when we try to be selective in there application, it backfires.

    Also, this just shows how corrupt our Ruling Class is.

    For those of you who were "In Living Color" fans and remember Damon Wayans character "Homey the Clown"; I'd like to say that Obama is "Obama the Man."

    ..

    Captch...."whimper" - ain't that right ....

    1. Re:Bush's fault. Obama the Man. by prisoner-of-enigma · · Score: 1

      "Whenever anything went wrong it became usual to attribute it to Snowball. If a window was broken or a drain was blocked up, someone was certain to say that Snowball had come in the night and done it, and when the key of the store-shed was lost, the whole farm was convinced that Snowball had thrown it down the well. Curiously enough, they went on believing this even after the mislaid key was found under a sack of meal." -- Animal Farm, by George Orwell

      --
      In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, Make us your slaves, but feed us. - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
    2. Re:Bush's fault. Obama the Man. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wipe the cum off your chin please...

  4. and this is a surprise by wganz · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    in what manner?

    From a POTUS that is the most secretive about his own past?

    1. Re:and this is a surprise by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1, Informative

      The one who published a (ghostwritten, but nothing unusual there) autobiography an inch thick, including many stories of his family life and childhood?

  5. Re:Not news for nerds... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Mod this up. Slashdot is not a political blog. This is a pure politics story that does not belong here. End of story.

  6. Obama worse than Obama? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm curious about the limited scope of the article. Wouldn't it be more useful to compare the 6 yr average vs. previous administrations instead of last year vs. the previous few years.

  7. getting sick of capitalism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    fuck this fake ass democracy, establish dictatorship of the proletariat

    1. Re:getting sick of capitalism by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Yea, that has ALWAYS worked in the past... NOT!

      --
      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
  8. I'm still incensed by Lucas123 · · Score: 1

    Spying on citizens is one thing, but to think the CIA was spying on Dianne Feinstien and her Senate Select Committee on Intelligence really crosses the line.

    1. Re: I'm still incensed by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      I can't tell of you're being facetious or not.

    2. Re: I'm still incensed by Lucas123 · · Score: 1

      Of course I am.

    3. Re: I'm still incensed by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      Of course I am.

      The reason it wasn't obvious is that someone might see them going after their watchers, and also breaching the separation of powers, as a far worse offense than violating the Fourth Amendment, as gutted by the SCOTUS.

    4. Re: I'm still incensed by Lucas123 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I'd prefer the CIA keep tabs on Feinstein.

    5. Re: I'm still incensed by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      I'd prefer the CIA keep Feinstein.

    6. Re: I'm still incensed by q4Fry · · Score: 1

      I'd prefer the CIA keep Feinstein.

      ...on tabs?

  9. I appreciate that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    “This is the most transparent administration in history,” -- Barack Obama, February 2013

    "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." -- Napoleon, Animal Farm, by George Orwell

    I appreciate that.

    What I think we the people should be doing now is, instead of picking on individual office holders - who happen to be a member of a particular party - we should be picking on the ruling class.

    See, there WILL be folks who think that you are partisan and a Fox News junky and they will not get they subtleties of your post.

    I think all of us need to just hold all parties to the fire - ignoring the false separation created by corporate interests to boost ratings of their networks (Fox and MSNBC).

    Our political class has been very adept in selecting topics that create heated and divisive fights - not debates - but fights. It's been going on for quite a while but now, it's gotten to the point of being ridiculous.

    I blame the profit motive of mass media and the fact that people get sucked into listening too what they want to hear.

    For example, I am Pro-Choice or Pro-Murder (as you see fit), but at the same time, .....I watched an abortion and cried - it wasn't even my own.

    Then I see the kids who are put into the foster care system and see how fucked up they become. Only White babies get a chance at a loving home - and even then - if they have developmental problems, all bets are off (You WILL see them on death row.).

    I am troubled.

    1. Re:I appreciate that. by Feyshtey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How about if we start by acknowledging that there was never supposed to be a "ruling class" and elminating that philosophy from our culture.

      --
      "But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it,..." - Nancy Pelosi
    2. Re:I appreciate that. by Sarius64 · · Score: 2

      Then I see the kids who are put into the foster care system and see how fucked up they become. Only White babies get a chance at a loving home - and even then - if they have developmental problems, all bets are off (You WILL see them on death row.).

      I am troubled.

      So full of it more likely. I had a very good friend take a crack baby into her home for foster care and fought in the courts for four years before they would finally release the child to her for adoption. Mother completely abandoned her. Father serving a life sentence for multiple murders. But the state felt they were doing her an injustice allowing a white woman to adopt a black child. That little girl is doing great now and will get a free ride at her mother's college because of employment.

      But it's much easier to bitch about (insert rant about races here) apparently than actually do something.

    3. Re:I appreciate that. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      serve : v to rule "I'd like to thank Senator Linepockets for his many decades serving us."

      --
      (-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
    4. Re:I appreciate that. by fizzer06 · · Score: 1

      We are more "serviced" than served. Like a bull services a cow.

    5. Re:I appreciate that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My (white) brother and his (white) wife adopted two black children, taking them out of similar situations. Some white friends of mine adopted 3 black children too. Without exception, the kids are doing great, kind of like a dried-up flower does when you give it water. The idea that only white babies get a shot at a loving home is wrong.

  10. BUSH'S FAULT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The last 5+ years of Obama's failure to forgo the criminal secrecy of the previous administration only demonstrates the raw genius of Bush.

    He was just that fucking brilliant.

    1. Re:BUSH'S FAULT by ebvwfbw · · Score: 1

      The last 5+ years of Obama's failure to forgo the criminal secrecy of the previous administration only demonstrates the raw genius of Bush.

      He was just that fucking brilliant.

      Who, Bush? Many people claim I like Bush. However I'd like to know what you're drinking. Must be good.

  11. Third Parties have stepped up by wisnoskij · · Score: 1

    At least third parties have stepped up, and I would say are doing a far better job at Government transparency.
    And who cares about transparency? Great, now I can see in minute detail the human rights abuses, and constitutionally illegal practices of the government on a constant and institutional level. Yay, that totally fixes the problem.

    --
    Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
    1. Re:Third Parties have stepped up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kodos: It's true, we are aliens. But what are you going to do about it? It's a two-party system. You have to vote for one of us.
      Man 1: He's right, this is a two-party system.
      Man 2: Well I believe I'll vote for a third-party candidate.
      Kang: Go ahead, throw your vote away!

    2. Re:Third Parties have stepped up by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      Yay, that totally fixes the problem.

      It does not fix a thing, but its hard to solve any problem when you don't know what it is. Solving the problem starts with transparency.

      --
      Repeal the 17th Amendment TODAY! Also Please Read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
    3. Re:Third Parties have stepped up by canadiannomad · · Score: 2

      "I come in peace," it said, adding after a long moment of further grinding, "take me to your Lizard."

      Ford Prefect, of course, had an explanation for this, as he sat with Arthur and watched the nonstop frenetic news reports on television, none of which had anything to say other than to record that the thing had done this amount of damage which was valued at that amount of billions of pounds and had killed this totally other number of people, and then say it again, because the robot was doing nothing more than standing there, swaying very slightly, and emitting short incomprehensible error messages.

      "It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."

      "You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"

      "No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like to straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."

      "Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."

      "I did," said ford. "It is."

      "So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"

      "It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."

      "You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"

      "Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."

      "But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"

      "Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"

      "What?"

      "I said," said Ford, with an increasing air of urgency creeping into his voice, "have you got any gin?"

      "I'll look. Tell me about the lizards."

      Ford shrugged again.

      "Some people say that the lizards are the best thing that ever happened to them," he said. "They're completely wrong of course, completely and utterly wrong, but someone's got to say it."

      --
      Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
  12. listening to an audiobook of mein kampf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it sounds pretty reasonable, i think hitler got a bad rap.

    1. Re:listening to an audiobook of mein kampf by bobbied · · Score: 1

      Really? A self inflicted shot to the head is a bad rap? I don't think it was bad enough myself....

      --
      "File to fit, pound to insert, paint to match" - Aircraft Maintenance 101
    2. Re:listening to an audiobook of mein kampf by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it sounds pretty reasonable, i think hitler got a bad rap.

      Third Reich Berlin, 1936
      San Francisco, 2012

      Yep, gotta agree. Whatever else Hitler did, he didn't do that to his country. Hitler is looking more like a prophet with every passing year.

    3. Re:listening to an audiobook of mein kampf by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      To be fair, in 1940s Germany, rap was still in its infancy. It was only 50 years later when it crossed the Atlantic to settle in the ghettos of New York that it really hit its stride.

  13. Change you can believe in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He promised change.

  14. Not Sure If Serious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...

  15. Cut him some slack by OverlordQ · · Score: 1

    He was too busy Shilling healthcare.gov

    --
    Your hair look like poop, Bob! - Wanker.
  16. You thought things would change? by macbeth66 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Really? You (schwit1) must be disappointed on a regular basis.

    Sorry, even if Obama really wanted to change things, he's still an elected. The bureaucracy marches on and very rarely cares about the comings and goings of temporary staff, even if they are the boss.

    1. Re:You thought things would change? by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      He wanted to change things. He just wanted to change different things from the things he said he was wanting to change.

  17. I am shocked by Vermonter · · Score: 1

    I politician *lied* to me?! I feel so disillusioned....

  18. he brought it, just heard wrong. Hope FOR change by raymorris · · Score: 1, Insightful

    He wasn't lying, we all just heard him wrong. He made us hope for change. I'm sure hoping for a change right now. Right now I'm just hoping for a GOOD president next time, liberal or conservative hardly matters. Either Kennedy or Reagan would be a thousand times better than our last few presidents.

  19. Re:Most Transparent Ever! You Right wingers! by Bodhammer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is anything critical of this administration right wing or are they so wonderful in their totality that they are like pony, butterfly farts? Anytime something is posted that is published you proglocrats look like a bunch shambling, drooling zombies. Wake up, you got snookered, get over it and open your eyes. This guy is the worst president every and you fucks need to own it and fix it...

    --
    "I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
  20. For the last time.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When Obama talked about transparency, he meant of the citizens.

  21. obama lied, people denied by tatman · · Score: 0

    Sorry I couldn't resist. Let the flame wars begin

    --
    I've always said English was my second language. Had Romeo and Juliet been written in C, I might have understood it.
  22. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Thats what change looks like.

    Well, he did promise change.

  23. Obama Berlin Wall by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since taking the Office of the President of the United States of America President Obama has erected the "Security" wall along the Canada and Mexico border.

    Mr. Obama, "Tare down this wall !"

  24. And now Obama threatens to veto by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    a law that would simply require the president to obey the law!

    When the executive is subject to the law, you have a democracy or a republic

    When the exectuive is able to write or change the law, you have monarchy and tyranny

    I never thought the Democrats would be able to out-evil themselves in Presidents - their guy, Woodrow Wilson, was my previous bet for the absolute worst as he, among other things, segregated the US government by race (that's right, if you were educated by unionized school teachers (Democrat activists) you probably thought the US was ALWAYS segregated by race and that this ended with the civil rights act under Johnson in the 1960's). Black Amercians were always free in the northern colonies and they even participated in the Revolutionary war. The southern colonies had slaves before, during, and after the Revolutionary war (until the civil war). The Constitution DID NOT count blacks as 3/5ths of a person... it counted "non-free" persons as 3/5ths (i.e. blacks in the north were always full people and only southern slaves were 3/5ths for purposes of allocating seats in congress (to prevent southern states getting so much power in congress that they could spread slavery further)). The REAL introduction of OFFICIAL race-based segregation within the US federal government was by Democrat President Woodrow Wilson. Even on his WORST day, however, Woodrow Wilson did not imagine he was above the Constitution and could write and re-write laws on his own.

  25. Wise-up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ALL politicians use trite slogans.

    "Hope and Change" ring any bells???? "Four more years"??? "reduce, reuse, recycle"?

    There's quite a range and a long history, but for some reason you only think such slogans are evidence of an idiot when they are used by Palin? I guess that makes you "anti-woman"... :-)

    For all the swagger of Obama and his Palin-hating mindless-minions, the man has thus-far proven himself to be exactly the sort of brainless, foolish, dishonest dirtbag I expected a coke-snorting (by his own admission) dope-smoking (by his own admission) "community organizer" (rabble-rouser) with no history of ever doing anything productive to be. I'm neither surprised nor disappointed, execpt in this one way: Sooner or later the country was going to have a "first black president" (just as it will someday have a first woman-, a first hispanic-, a first asian- etc president) but it's truly sad that with so many brilliant and accomplished black Americans to choose from (many in science, medicine, the military, etc) who could have been amazing role models and true uniters, the man who will hold that spot forever in our history will be this hyper-divisive dishonest idiot (Obama).

    1. Re:Wise-up by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      To be fair, he's half white.

    2. Re:Wise-up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      To be fair, pretty much ALL blacks have plenty of white in them. But the only time you see that mentioned is when there is a gathering of fucktards, with the keynote speaker being a retard like you.

    3. Re:Wise-up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... I expected a coke-snorting (by his own admission) dope-smoking (by his own admission) "community organizer" (rabble-rouser) ...

      dog-eating (by his own admission)

  26. If you like your transparency, by Squidlips · · Score: 3, Funny

    you can keep your transparency

  27. drawing straws between finalists works by raymorris · · Score: 1

    In one organization, unless someone wins 2/3rds of the vote, they draw straws from among the finalists. It works quite well, achieving what campaign finance reform is intended to achieve, without the free speech issues involved such as potentially making it illegal for a blogger to speak their opinion.

    It makes a lot of dog-eat-dog campaigning unnecessary because the candidates aren't fighting tooth and nail for that extra 0.1% of the vote - just put up a pretty good candidate, who can get at least 20%-35% of the vote to get their name in the hat. Primaries, and therefore pandering to the extremes, aren't critical when someone can get elected without being chosen by either major party.

    On the other hand, if JFK came back to life he'd win 2/3rds and win, as he should.

    1. Re:drawing straws between finalists works by HiThere · · Score: 1

      In organizations where there is not a lot of publicity driven voting with funding from biased sources that should work fairly well, but that doesn't describe the US political system. Even so it should act to moderate the extremism. But note that that system is hardly describable as "plurality wins".

      Even so, to me it looks as if the system that you have proposed will act so as to maintain and increase the concentration of wealth and power among those that already have it, and squeeze out those on the edges of power. This isn't something that I consider healthy in a society.

      --

      I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
    2. Re:drawing straws between finalists works by raymorris · · Score: 1

      You end up with a lot less "publicity driven voting driven by funding from biased sources" when no amount of money can buy win. So long as people contribute $X, enough to get your message out, the person with ten times as much money has little or no advantage - both names go into the hat. Campaign finance has extremely diminishing returns. If, in a given race, it takes $1 million in publicity to get 20% of the voters, two million will get you to 25%. Three million will get 27%. Ten million will get 35%. A hundred million will get 45%. One major reason for the ridiculous amount of money spent in elections is that candidates are chasing that last half of a percent. If you say that a 1% lead doesn't matter, that means 20% of the money doesn't matter.

      * numbers are not accurate, but illustrate a point that is correct.

      > Even so, to me it looks as if the system that you have proposed will act so as to maintain and increase the concentration of wealth and power among those that already have it, and squeeze out those on the edges of power.

      In fact, it has not, precisely because "those on the edges of power" have an equal chance of getting elected - if they are truly on the edge.

  28. You Left wingers! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is it that when a Slashdot discussion tries holding a leftist to some neutral standard (like truth) you lefties go nuts? Has a Left-Wing Bot begun pasting responses on Slashdot?

    It's a simple thing, but beyond the grasp of some idiots. If you only see "bad" when the other team does it (like spying on average citizens) then you are just a brain-dead partisan hack with nothing of value to say.

    I was a right-leaner who was outraged by many of the things Bush43 did, and I feel entirely free to maintain my consistency and integrity by attacking Obama for this stuff too. If you defend Obama on this stuff, you have NO legitimate right to attack Bush for any of it.

  29. I hear you. Actual options we have are find bad or by raymorris · · Score: 1

    I can relate to what you're saying. However, if by "the ruling class" you mean people in leadership positions - people who have built a successful business, people who have successfully organized large events like the Olympics, etc., you end up attacking anyone who has proven they can do a good job on big things - precisely the people we need to have leading.

    Another option takes more work, but gets better results:
    Identify the bad leaders, the morally corrupt and the incompetent. That would include Bush II, Obama, Ray Nagen, etc. Get rid of the bad ones and find good leaders. Good leaders might include Colin Powell and Robert Gates.

    Third, along with identifying and eliminating bad leaders, we need structural changes. Other countries have better election systems we should consider, where you have to build a broad coalition to get elected. We need to look at ways to move away from the "American Idol" style popularity contest. There's some truth to calling Obama "President Kardashian" - many of his voters had no idea why they were voting for him, zero knowledge of the issues. We need to try to fix that.

  30. Invisibility Cloak by qeorqe · · Score: 1

    Is the government trying to achieve transparency by shrouding its activitties in a cloak of invisibility?

  31. Who are you responding to? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No one in this forum thus far has stepped up to defend Obama's actions. This leaves me to believe that you're making stuff up. Mostly I hear people complaining that Obama is doing the same crap that Bush did which was just more of what Clinton was doing which was more than Bush Sr which was more than Reagan. Reagan seems to be where things spun out of control. The Clinton administration righted a good number of wrongs but they made a quite few as well.

    As long as the rich make government do whatever they want we'll continue with the system we have. Ask yourself why even Reagan was able to solve childhood hunger but all presidents past him couldn't handle it despite a vastly larger economy?

    So how would you propose fixing it? Besides shouting at invisible adversaries that is

    1. Re:Who are you responding to? by Bodhammer · · Score: 1

      Ok, these would be a good start, And yours other than "Blame Bush"?

      1) Impeach Obama - http://www.impeachobamacampaig...
      2) Balanced budget amendment
      3) Flat tax
      4) Term limits for the Senate, Congress, and Supreme court (See Mark Levin's Liberty Amendments)
      5) Stop funding the United Nations and IMF
      6) Repeal the 17th Amendment
      7) Eliminate federal government involvement in Health Care, Education, and the mortgage industry

      --
      "I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."
  32. "Meet the New Boss..." by ToddInSF · · Score: 1

    "Same as the Old Boss..."