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Survey Finds Nearly 50% In US Believe In Medical Conspiracy Theories
cold fjord writes in with some bad news for the people using water fluoridation to pacify the public and install a new world government. "About half of American adults believe in at least one medical conspiracy theory, according to new survey results. (paywalled, first page viewable) Some conspiracy theories have much more traction than others ... three times as many people believe U.S. regulators prevent people from getting natural cures as believe that a U.S. spy agency infected a large number of African Americans with the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV). J. Eric Oliver, the study's lead author from University of Chicago, said people may believe in conspiracy theories because they're easier to understand than complex medical information. ... Some 49 percent of the survey participants agreed with at least one of the conspiracies. In fact, in addition to the 37 percent of respondents who fully agreed that U.S. regulators are suppressing access to natural cures, less than a third were willing to say they actively disagreed with the theory. — One of the conspiracy theories, that the U.S. created HIV, was created for an active disinformation campaign by the Soviet Union against the U.S. as a form of political warfare during the Cold War, and still gets repeated."
That says it all.
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Statistically speaking some conspiracies are true.
Operation Whitecoat it was called. If you were a Conscientious Objector you did this instead of shooting people.
There's lots and lots of conspiracies out there. All a conspiracy means is that two or more people get together to do something. Banking is rife with them. So is the software industry (and the hardware, anyone remember when flat panels suddenly got cheap? Conspiracy among vendors to keep prices high...).
Yes, there are crack pots out there. But that doesn't mean organized groups of people aren't doing bad things...
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In fact, in addition to the 37 percent of respondents who fully agreed that U.S. regulators are suppressing access to natural cures, less than a third were willing to say they actively disagreed with the theory.
Marijuana is still illegal, right? I mean, it's it a conspiracy theory if I can point to the status and rules at issue?
"Lesson number one: trust no one. The minute God crapped out the third caveman, a conspiracy was hatched against one of them. Welcome to earth, watch your back no one else will.
Red rice yeast is as effective as statins at lowering cholesterol, without liver side effects statin pills. Yet FDA bans sale of supplements calibrated to have enough active components.
Pot has helped millions to get measurable relieve from debilitating conditions. Yet federal government still considers it to be highly addictive and without medical value.
Countless food additives have been banned in most of the world outside US and most countries require clear labeling of genetically modified foods? Are our government scientists that much smarter?
FDA review process denies potentially life saving treatments for many years, even to people who are about to die without them anyway.
With this kind of track record, it's no wonder people are suspicious about other things. If a vaccine killed 10% of people compared to statistically saved lives, would YOU trust our government to admit to that?
Researchers messed up from the start using the "conspiracy theory" contextualization.
Operation Northwoods would certainly **sound** like a conspiracy theory, a US gov't plan investigating the use of false-flag actions on US population to manufacture consent, but follow the link to the official documents, declassified, proving the plan existed
Or how about The Gulf of Tonkin Incident which was a **all fake** and used to justify Vietnam intervention. Again...follow the link...the documents are declassified and it's true.
Today's conspiracy "theory" is tomorrows class action settlement!
By using the "conspiracy theory" contextualization, the researchers then biased **what theories they chose** and to go deeper **which variation of the theory to use**
ex: Flouride. Some say flouride in the water table is for dumping toxic chemicals to cause their Pineal Gland to calcify...others don't think it's so devious...just a way to make money off of industrial waste (selling something uneccesary on decades-long contracts w/ governments) not actually ***hurt people***
from TFA, here's the **versions** of various theories they chose:
Notice that ****corporate conspiracies**** are not mentioned!!!
The health care industry profits from **artificial scarcity**...and lobbying to get unsafe, easily abusable drugs approved by the FDA over objections (see: Rudy Guilianni's early career as an attorney ;)
Artificial Scarcity & corporate cronyism is not a "conspiracy theory"...in fact, if you toss out the craziness, just about all "conspiracy theories" can be explained by unscrupulous people doing criminal behavior on a large scale.
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does current treatment for AIDS cure, or just alleviate? does current treatment for genital herpes cure, or just alleviate?
but there are a lot of cheaper, better therapies that are ignored or attacked by pharmaceutical, medical interests, whether natural substances or generic drugs used off label. The FDA essentially promotes expensive, less effective, often dangerous therapies that are officially blessed. I've saved $40,000+ a month recognizing this situation the last several years, with better research and results in my family when the doctors themselves said no real hope several years ago.
"Conspiracy" is a vague word. In an industry as large and complex as medical care, I can almost guarantee that underhanded manipulation is going on, and have heard about such directly from acquaintances who worked or are working in it.
Whether one can label underhanded manipulation a "conspiracy" is tricky one. Multiple people of power work together to manipulate for selfish reasons. But often they use "gray lies" so that they have a fall-back argument such as "It's a matter of interpretation".
I'd generally call such "coordinated bullshit" and reserve "conspiracy" for outright coordinated lies or clear-cut criminal acts.
The largest volume of BS in the world is done at the grey borders of "truth", not so much dead people in car trunks or planted microscope slides. If you want to clean up corruption and BS, then going after manipulation of grey areas is probably the biggest bang for the buck.
The word "conspiracy" has kind of been diluted similar to how we use "robbed" to mean "burglarized". "Robbed" technically usually means you were approached and threatened in person by the thief. Taking your TV while you are on vacation doesn't count. That's "burglarized", not "robbed". But humans like to add drama to their speech such that the embellishment causes a kind of "severity deflation" of meaning over time. Thus "robbed" grew weaker in perceived meaning.
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Can you imagine how many researchers could go on to OTHER pressing problems instead of succumbing to the usual dimwitted cliche , you just dropped?
Deep intense regulation of Medical companies, complete with special taxes and loss of IP protection for leaving the country or for having foreign facilities which could escape regulation, would be a nice start to setting this whole mess and others straight.
No offence to other countries, but if we cant make them do the right thing, theres no point in calling them anyones asset. Medicine wouldnt be held back by doing this. Medicine IS held back, as you pointed out by the current gard.
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Can you imagine what it would take for the medical bureaucracy that can't seem to find its own ass with two hands, a stethoscope and a flashlight to pull off suppressing a working cure? My main argument against 'Conspiracy Theories' is that most large organizations are so incompetent at doing there actual jobs, they in no way have the level of skill, organization and attention to detail required to make any decent conspiracy work for any length of time that can be measured without resorting to planck units.
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One of the wealthiest lobbying groups in the world could in no way have any influence on government policy, now could they?
Not all conspiracies are equal.
Plover said it perfectly in a post above:
Q: You know what they call a "natural cure" that has been tested and found to work?
A: Medicine.
More on point, all this study says is that, once again, we have a bunch of stupid fucking ignorant people in the US who don't even have a passing acquaintance with reality.
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The conspiracy theories are always partially truth and the medical model does not have any method for scientifically proving the public wrong. They rather use discredidation tactics and speculation like calling it all a conspircy theory even though they do not really know if something is true or not. They generally overlook government abuse and classification of information that might prove the public right on things like the government or corporations withholding information about natural cures and functional treatments, or the allowance of public genocide and medical based injuries. The real conpiracy is exposed because doctors have an aligned interest with pharmacutical industry to push drugs and treatment for condition that either should not be treated or do not get better with medications, get worse, or have little to no effect, like many drug based cancer treatments and psychiatric treatments. The industry also effectively lies about all the harmful effects of drugs and covers up their ineffectiveness. Often times medical professionals even have ties to military, CIA and other government operations, using the public for genocide and weapons experimentation like they did in MKULTRA. For evidence of the psychitric drug abuse/cover up, look up the psychiatric affidavits of Robert Whitaker and Dr. Grace E. Jackson on this page for example: http://www.oregonstatehospital...
It says that not only do people with schizophrenia recover at higher rates without medication but those who take medication never recover. Medication users also get heavy brain damage and 10% brain shrinkage, and die 25 years sooner as a result. Antidepressants also cause such permanent damage that people can never withdraw from them, cause mania and are not significantly more effective than placebo, whereas excersise is 80% effective by itself and doesn't require taking an ineffective pill.
The industry has also been proven to lie about chemical imbalances causing mental illness, as no chemical imbalance has ever been shown except in people on medications.
Finally, the medical model treats real issues and expected human responses as something to be drugged out of people, even when they in fact are not diseases. They might say a traumatized women who is afraid of losing her newest baby after multiple miscairages should be drugged and has mental illness rather than trauma, for example. A person legitimately attacked or set up by government operatives might also be labeled schizophrenic and paranoid despite it really being real, because medical professionals do little to validate government abuse or whether others are lying about the situation, leading to treatment with force of deadly brain damaging drugs.
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I don't think there's anything to it, but it's one of those "I wouldn't be surprised" kind of things. I'm a 9/11 truther, so that's some context for you.
I live in Portland and we just rejected flouride recently. I used to be an activist & I noticed through social media that there was indeed such a thing as "big flouride" and they were not above hiring local agent provaceteaurs to disrupt hearings and put out disinformation.
I saw "tradecraft" which doesn't mean it calcifies the Pineal Gland but it shows that there's money behind it.
I'm much more apt to believe that part of marijuana prohibition was that it disrupts MKULTRA-style conditioning b/c of the short-term memory loss ;)
Thank you Dave Raggett