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How Did Bill Nye Become the Science Guy?

An anonymous reader writes "Whether he's debating creationists, taking selfies with President Obama, or 'Dancing with the Stars,' Bill Nye the Science Guy is no stranger to the spotlight. But what about the man behind the public persona? How did Bill Nye become the Science Guy?(video) Bill Nye has made his debut on the PBS series, The Secret Life of Scientists and Engineers, to reveal the story of how he rose from being a young comedian from Seattle to becoming a science icon. In his profile, Bill Nye talks about his early days impersonating Steve Martin, why bow-ties are important in the lab (and with the ladies), and how Carl Sagan's advice helped to shape his hit television show."

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  1. He didn't become the science guy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    He was created by God just as you see him now.

  2. John Keister by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Informative

    Almost Live - a weekly half hour comedy skit show in Seattle in the 80s is what made Bill Nye.

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    1. Re:John Keister by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I remember the first season or so when Almost Live was hosted by Ross Shafer and was a lackluster Seattle-area clone of Letterman's Late Show on NBC.

      But the reboot with John Keister and the rest of that gang was great! Speed Walker; Mind Your Manners with Billy Quan ("be like Billy - behave yourself!"); Worst Girlfriend in the World; and Bill Nye the Science Guy! The reruns are still pretty funny, although some of the old jokes don't work without the temporal political context. And also unfortunately, the old jokes about the Seattle Mariners being awful still work just fine...

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  3. Speed Walker! by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 3

    My favorite comedy from Bill Nye was Speeeeeeed Walker, a super hero that always adhered to the rules of the International Speed Walking Association: Heal Toe! Heal Toe!

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  4. Re:WTF by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    You just described 2/3 of Slashdot.

  5. bit.ly links by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Please, editors, for the love of science, do not allow bit.ly links in summaries.
    http://bit.ly/1gkfa7z
    is
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KkKejZnazw
    "Bill Nye: Change The World" by user "NOVA's Secret Life of Scientists and Engineers".

  6. His debate by ArchieBunker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Most scientists told him not to debate the creationists as it only brings more attention to them. Well it really happened and now the people he debated received enough money and even MUNICIPAL BONDS to build a life sized Ark. Thanks Bill Nye.

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    1. Re:His debate by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most scientists told him not to debate the creationists as it only brings more attention to them.

      They already have plenty of attention. More than half of Americans believe in some form of creationism (young earth creationism, intelligent design, or "evolution guided by God"). The percentage in many other countries is even higher. "Ignoring them" isn't working out so well.

    2. Re:His debate by pushing-robot · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm okay with this, as long as we can call it 'B'.

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    3. Re:His debate by Charliemopps · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yea, but Bill Bye fell into the same trap all sciency types do. He didn't argue evolution, he argued against the creationists idea of Intelligent design. There is nothing incompatible with Intelligent design and evolution. If there is a God that created the universe then, that God also created evolution and therefor science is simply discovering Gods work. He should have made that point and left it at that. You can't invalidate theology with logic. But you can validate science with it. Evolution is a fact. If you believe in god then evolution is his work, stop denying Gods work you pagan.

    4. Re:His debate by khellendros1984 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you know any telephone sanitisers to send on it?

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    5. Re:His debate by GoodNewsJimDotCom · · Score: 2

      I like how Bill Nye did it though. Bill Nye debated Ken Ham's Creationism which most Christians don't espouse. Ken Ham lost the debate because he said the flood deposited all the fossils which was disproven by Christian geologists of the 1800s. The way Bill Nye put it is that there are billions of others who hold their beliefs but don't claim the earth was 6000 years old.

      Two weeks before the debate I asked the guy on twitter if he'd isolate Ken Ham's version of YEC away from the other actually possible theologies out there. I'm not sure if he got my message, but he did make the distinction that it isn't religion vs science. Because of this, I feel Bill Nye addressed the debate with a good degree of respect for other's beliefs. It is just that Ken Ham's YEC got proven false. I was very pleased with how the debate went. I knew Ken Ham was going to lose, but Bill Nye made it happen with class.

    6. Re:His debate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The percentage in many other countries is even higher.

      Which countries?

      Certainly my experience from growing up in New Zealand and living my adult life in Australia is that those two are not one of the "many other countries" - in fact, until the Internet showed me otherwise, I grew up believing Creationists were like flat-earthers, they pretty much didn't exist except as a couple of isolated crazies.

      Nothing I've seen of the UK makes me think creationists are very prevalent there either. In addition both the Church of England and the Catholic church acknowledge the facts of evolution (They may believe the mechanism by which it happens is divine, but they don't dispute it does happen), and neither espouse a young earth view.
      So if Catholics don't support creationism, then that's another huge chunk of the Christian world that doesn't.

      So which countries other than the USA have a high percentage of young-earth creationists?

    7. Re:His debate by pipedwho · · Score: 5, Informative

      Literal Creationism (or "Intelligent design") is primarily an American thing pushed by fundamentalist protestants.

      The vast majority of old school mainstream christian religious people (eg. Catholics Anglicans, etc) hold that evolution is a scientifically established principle (supported by both observation and related scientific theories). As far as how a deity fits into their picture, it is generally understood that the biblical stories are allegorical and not literal tellings of an event.

      The concept of 'evolution guided by God' is simply a restatement that scientific evidence guides the description of how the universe works, and the random events that coincided to an eventual outcome may have been influenced or set in motion by some divine force. And even then, that is the simplistic layman's way of interpreting the phrase 'you/people were created by god'. With a deep theological understanding, the physical and spiritual aspects of the human condition are not necessarily connected and therefore unconflicted when it comes to changes in how we understand the workings of the known universe.

      In general, religious belief does not hinge on anything that can ever be proven/disproven by observation, and is purely the domain of spiritual fulfilment and ideas that exist outside of the physical universe. For these people, there is no need for debate or argument. Science is science. Religion is religion. Their minds are open.

      For the biblical fundamentalists that treat their bible as literal tellings of actual events, the 'debate' will never end. Science is religion. Religion is science. Their minds are closed.

      These 'debates' are not attention whoring by the religious right, it is attention whoring by the media. More eyeballs for all involved.

    8. Re:His debate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There is nothing incompatible with Intelligent design and evolution. If there is a God that created the universe then, that God also created evolution and therefor science is simply discovering Gods work.

      I've never heard intelligent design described that way before. Intelligent design is the idea that biological organisms required an intelligent entity to create them, that it is unlikely that complex organisms could exist without a designer, which is an idea fundamentally contradicted by evolution. It sounds like you are describing deism, not intelligent design.

    9. Re:His debate by dbIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

      A few years ago there was a team of a Nobel prize winner and a leading Jesuit that toured the US arguing that creationism was bad theology as well as it pretending various rubbish is science. The various creationist lay preacher merchants in the temple tried to pretend that it was invalid by implying that Catholics are not real Christians. That's how ridiculous the situation is.
      The only winning move is not to play.

    10. Re:His debate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Did you watch the debate? Nye was debating against Young Earth Creationism that Answers in Genesis was putting out; he himself pointed out that millions do reconcile a belief in God and evolution.

    11. Re:His debate by arjun.jrao · · Score: 3, Informative

      Much of Asia ?? Hallo, I believe most of the Asian population is made up of China and India. Hinduism, for one, has no problem with evolution. In fact, evolution nicely fits in with the theory of reincarnation and the evolution of a soul over many lifetimes into higher and higher life-forms. As for young-earthism, Hindu belief includes astronomical time scales in which the Universe is born and destroyed... this is not the first Universe created by the Creator, not will it be the last. This is not an endorsement of Hinduism, which includes such delightful things like casteism, unequality of women and other social evils. All I'm saying is, there is no conflict between orthodox Hinduism and Evolution and the true age of the Earth. As for China, I believe a signifcant part of their population is Buddhist.. which again, has no problems with evolution because their basic tenets speak of the evolution of a soul over many lifetimes. Perhaps somebody could shed light on what Taoism and Confucianism has to say on this matter.

    12. Re:His debate by tempmpi · · Score: 2

      More than half of Americans believe in some form of creationism (young earth creationism, intelligent design, or "evolution guided by God").

      "Evolution guided by God" = Theistic Evolution is not creationism. That is just new atheist crap. The most common version of Theistic evolution does not make any testable predictions different from the scientific theory of evolution. It just adds a untestable metaphysical believe to it or as Francis Collins phrases it: "evolution is real, but that it was set in motion by God". Just because you disagree with this metaphysical claim it does not turn theistic evolution into creationism.

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    13. Re:His debate by erikkemperman · · Score: 2

      No, not nearly all Muslim countries. As with Christianity, it is rather more complicated. See here.

      Likewise your blanket statement about "all of Africa, most of Latin America". These continents are almost exclusively Roman Catholic and if you haven't noticed the Roman Catholic views on evolution are not nearly as black-and-white as those of many US protestants. "Much of Asia" is just plain wrong, as someone else pointed out.

      So actually, from where I am standing, it does look like there is basically no other country on Earth with where the percentatge of young-earth creationists is even remotely comparable to the US.

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    14. Re:His debate by dmgxmichael · · Score: 5, Interesting

      There is nothing incompatible with Intelligent design and evolution. If there is a God that created the universe then, that God also created evolution and therefor science is simply discovering Gods work.

      I've never heard intelligent design described that way before. Intelligent design is the idea that biological organisms required an intelligent entity to create them, that it is unlikely that complex organisms could exist without a designer, which is an idea fundamentally contradicted by evolution. It sounds like you are describing deism, not intelligent design.

      That's essentially the approach the modern Catholic church takes. Broadly speaking: Religion (overall) attempts to subjectively answer 'why?' Science attempts to objectively answer 'how?'. Objective and subjective reasoning methods are largely incompatible to begin with, and anyone used to thinking objectively at all times should find subjective reasoning infuriating and off-putting at best - but it's at the heart of the logic within theology.

      Personally, I see evolution as part of the creation, a mechanism no more consequential to the question of God's existence than the rainfall. Besides, if we are truly made in God's image, it should only be natural that we should attempt to understand how we were made on all levels of that question.

      The problem I think is small minds need a small God. Every time science pushes the boundaries of what we know about the size and complexity of the universe, ignorant rats scuttle about to stick their heads in the sand and deny the truth of what is observable in the universe, so that they may preserve their small God. If God did indeed make the universe, then the universe itself is the ultimate testament to truth (whatever that is) - not a book - for the universe alone was authored by the hand of God. To deny it is to call God a liar.

    15. Re:His debate by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 2

      As a rational theist who actually does believe in his religion- I can't find a darn thing wrong with anything of what you wrote.

      And it makes me angry. Not at the atheists, or the agnostics, or even the fundamentalists.

      At all of the lukewarm, go along to get along people who are perfectly willing to eliminate WIC funding and get into pre-emptive wars and use the death penalty (while claiming to be pro-life), as well as the type on the other side who doesn't care who dies as long as they can still fuck.

      But like you say- I figure people like me are maybe .000001% of the vote. Last election, 98% of my co-religionists voted for the lesser of two evils. Guess what- the lesser of two evils is *still evil*.

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  7. It rhymes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    How did he become "The Science Guy" Because nye rhymes with guy, and he probably has a penis.

  8. He got kids interested. by Handover+Phist · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Need I say more?

  9. In Summary.. by formfeed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...he's not much of a "science" guy, ...
    ... captain obvious ...
    ... He's no scientist. ...
    ... Bill Nye the Attention Whore ...
    ... Mr. Bill Nye is NOT and has NOTHING to do with science ...

    This out of 31 posts so far.
    This on a guy who makes science fun for kids.

    Beta might not be Slashdot's biggest problem,
    but going the way of kuro5hin is.

    1. Re:In Summary.. by DerekLyons · · Score: 2

      This on a guy who makes science fun for kids.

      True. But much of what the person you quoted is true too. Denying the facts isn't going the way of kuro5hin, it's going the way of the creation "scientists".

  10. Give Bill a break... by Brad1138 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have always enjoyed Bill Nye. Watching him in his early days on his show and on a local Seattle show "Almost Live". He was witty and funny.

    From Wiki: "He studied mechanical engineering at Cornell University (where one of his professors was Carl Sagan) and graduated with a Bachelor of Science in 1977. Nye occasionally returns to Cornell as a professor to guest lecture introductory level astronomy and human ecology classes."

    I would think that is sufficient education to be "the Science Guy". Why do we need to tear him down?

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    1. Re:Give Bill a break... by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why do we need to tear him down?

      Because, according to a bunch of Slashdot neckbeards, he's not a 'real' scientist.

    2. Re:Give Bill a break... by Brad1138 · · Score: 2

      In case anyone is curious, a taste of Bill Nye on Almost Live.

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    3. Re:Give Bill a break... by Brad1138 · · Score: 2

      OK Sheldon...

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    4. Re:Give Bill a break... by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 2, Insightful

      First of all, the Science in "Bachelors of Science" means nothing. Many scientists do not have Bachelor of Science degrees they have Bachelor of Arts degrees -- usually referred to as a BA. Many non scientists have Bachelor of science degrees. It mainly depends on where you get your degree.

      Secondly, much of what Nye does is not science but engineering. Blurring the distinction like that is harmful to science.

      For example an older child may try to build a robot using an Arduino and fail. He correctly deems his project a failure. But then he hears ( assuming of course that the Higgs did not exist ) that LHC failed to find the Higgs, and determines that the money on LHC was wasted. WHen the opposite is true, that proving the Higgs does not exist is just as important frrom a science view as showing it does.

    5. Re:Give Bill a break... by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      Why do we need to tear him down?

      Because, according to a bunch of Slashdot neckbeards, he's not a 'real' scientist.

      I think it's actually because a bunch of Slashdot neckbeards didn't get enough nurturing as a child, so they've gotta run around and tear people down to feel better about themselves. Haters gonna hate, and masturbators... you know

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    6. Re:Give Bill a break... by dave420 · · Score: 3, Informative

      He's not calling himself a scientist, but a "science guy". Calling yourself a "medicine guy" is not the same as calling yourself a doctor, neither is "law guy" the same as a lawyer, or "shoot black people guy" same as police officer. Get a grip.

  11. Re:WTF by hey! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He's a science educator. Some science educators *are* bona fide scientists, like Carl Sagan; but science is not mysticism. String theory might be beyond most people, but there's a lot of basic stuff most people can explore and understand, and if you can do that you can explain it to others.

    If you think about it, a background in comedy is a very good preparation for being an educator. First you have to get and hold their attention. Second, you have to make really, really sure they get your point. People don't laugh at jokes they don't understand -- at least not the kind of laughter they paid to come experience. So comedy is all about making sure people get the point and are entertained along the way.

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  12. Re:Bill Nye is creepy and weird by dbIII · · Score: 2

    It seems to me the main reason is that hes smarter than most Americans

    On the other hand that Ken Ham makes Australians look like idiots even if he has been infected by some sort of fringe American pentacostal rabies :(
    An antidote to that is Dr Karl who's sort of our version of Bill Nye only from more of a medical background (http://www.drkarl.com).
    How's this for funny?

    In 2002, Dr Karl was honoured with the prestigious Ig Nobel prize awarded by Harvard University in the USA for his ground-breaking research into Belly Button Lint and why it is almost always blue.

    Yes, it ridiculous - that was the entire point. It was a radio talkback thing that grew out of a question from a listener. Entertain people and make them think at the same time.

  13. WTH is Bill Nye? by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Massive cultural assumption or what. What about international science presenters like David Attenborough or Brian Cox

    1. Re:WTH is Bill Nye? by Ozoner · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I totally agree. I had never heard of Bill Nye until this debate controversy blew up.

      One thing I notice with Americans is that their whole conversation is based around U.S. TV shows.
      Unless you watch USA TV, their conversations make very little sense.

      In the rest of the world, TV just isn't that important. It certainly doesn't inform intelligent debate.

    2. Re:WTH is Bill Nye? by CaptainLard · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Oh don't get your bloomers in a bunch ol' chap. I don't bother when TopGear has some random nobody (otherwise known as a British Celebrity) on as their guest or continues to use the word Lorry. Perhaps you can convince Brian Cox (who is no slouch) to do a "how did I become a physicist" over some tea and crumpets and then that story will be posted too. Do you feel at home now? (note: I'm assuming you're British since both of your "international presenters" are from England. Apologies if you're a true international citizen).

  14. The man lost interest in science a long time ago by Karmashock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    he's now more about harassing religious fundamentalists and flame baiting people in the climate change debate.

    I have very little regard for any of the so called scientist media personalities that spend most of their time engaging in various topics that are unproductive and rarely about science.

    Religious fundamentalists cannot be argued against with science. Its utterly pointless. Their interpretation of their religion means they will not agree. End of story.

    Possibly they can be argued off of it on philosophical, ideological, or theological grounds. But science is utterly futile in dealing with this issue. Yet many do this, piss off the fundamentalists for no reason, accept the applause of some atheist supporters, and then take a victory lap like they accomplished something.

    As to the climate debate, that isn't a scientific debate either at this point. Its a political, economic, and ideological debate. Science doesn't even really come into it.

    You have one faction that says the solution to fixing the climate is to nationalize everything, give the government sweeping control over the economy, jack up taxes hugely, and grant lots of power to non-democratic international organizations.

    So... spoiler alert... many people have a problem with that. If you removed all of that from the climate change rhetoric, most of the opposition would be gone tomorrow. Yet, it is pretended that the issue can be solved by explaining the science again. Waste of god damn time.

    Bill Nye was fun once... when he explained little science experiments on tv. He was great. But he hasn't done that in a long time and frankly since he stopped doing that I fail to see why anyone should give a damn about him.

    Now I'm about to get attacked by some people that think I'm supporting creationism or anti global warming science or both. Right off, anyone that makes that accusation after reading the above post is a fucking retard. But this site is full of them. So let me explain again, IT DOES NOT MATTER and THAT IS NOT MY POINT. My point is that indifferent to the science, science is often not a viable answer to various debates. In matters of belief, politics, or economics you can't just cite the science and expect everyone to fall into instant obedient lockstep with whatever you want. That's foolish.

    If you ACTUALLY want to solve the creationism issue... you need to respect the religious rights of people that find evolution to be a threat to their theology. We have a freedom of worship in this country which means people can believe the universe came from a cooked potato if it makes them happy.

    Yes... public schools and public money... well, that's a problem because the government isn't allowed to infringe on their beliefs. Which means you might need to give them money to run their own home schools or whatever. I know... you're not happy about that. But you'd only need to give them their share of the education money which after all came out of their own taxes. So they're hardly taking anything away from you.

    That is how you coexist. You either are happy to grant that or you want to dominate people and force your own beliefs on people... yes, your beliefs are backed by science. Show me where in the constitution that matters. It doesn't. Being right doesn't mean you get to force people to agree with you. They're going to be contentious. Tolerate their differences and demand the same in return.

    In regards to climate change... We really need to go over some solutions to the issue that don't instantly piss everyone off.

    Obviously we need to reduce our usage of sequestered hydrocarbons. So... to that end, nuclear power really needs to be put back on the table. If only as a stop gap until energy storage systems become more practical.

    Doubtless that makes some people unhappy... its called a compromise... you're not supposed to be happy. In addition to that, we should look at syngas/biogas to produce carbon neutral hydrocarbon fuel. That will further reduce our dependence on sequester

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  15. Who the fuck is Bill Nye??? by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Really, news for nerds? I've never heard that name before in my life. And what is a "science guy" anyway? Sounds pretty stupid to me.

    Anyway, got to go to work now - science calls.

    1. Re:Who the fuck is Bill Nye??? by rochrist · · Score: 2

      Seriously? What, is this the first time you've come out of your basement during your entire life?

  16. Re:what about muslims? by tempmpi · · Score: 2

    Causility != Implication

    1) Smoking causes lung cancer, but not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer. If smoking would imply lung cancer every smoker would also be suffering from lung cancer. It is clear that religion does not imply a low IQ, because some really smart religious people do exist.
    2) Lack of intelligence also does not imply believe in God, because there are stupid atheists as well.
    3) There are many possible causes for both religion and low intelligence.

    - If religion is one of the rare sources of hope in insecure situations, how would that make religions look bad? This would be like saying: Antibiotics are bad, they are consumed mostly by unhealthy people.

    There can also be causality chains. E.g.:
    - Higher Intelligence causes people to question the believes for neighbors.
    - This makes it more likely to get a different set of believes than the neighbors.
    - If the majority of the neighbors believes in god, mostly high IQ people will not share this believe.

    If you look at Lynn and Nyborg's data you will notice that not that nations with the overall highest level of atheist have the highest average IQ, but instead the nations with around 10-20% atheists have the highest IQ.

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  17. Re:How to debate crazy people by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

    Debating them directly is probably pointless.

    I didn't see the whole debate, but the telling part to me was when both were asked what would change their minds. What would make Bill Nye believe in creationism and Ken Ham accept evolution?

    Bill Nye said evidence. If a rabbit fossil was found in the same soil layer as a T-Rex fossil, it would seriously make him question his theories. He might not jump to creationism right away, but it would push him in that direction.

    Ken Ham said nothing. To him, even if God himself came down and said "Hey Ken, I'm glad that you're a fan of the bible and all but evolution is true", Ken would still hold onto creationism and not accept evolution.

    In other words, Bill Nye is keeping his mind open - albeit requiring some very exceptional proof for good reason - while Ken Ham's mind is extremely closed. Debating Ken wasn't to convince Ken Ham, though, but to convince others whose minds might not be so closed off. I just wish they could have done it without Ken Ham profiting financially from it.

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  18. I always prefered Beakman's World. . . by bplipschitz · · Score: 2

    to Bill Nye.

    Beakman's assistant was *way hotter* than any bunsen burner Nye had. . .

  19. Re:"As the devil reads the bible" by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 2

    But if you believe random parts of the bible are just metaphorical, then why take any of it seriously?

    Much of Sun Tzu's masterpiece is metaphorical, but is great philosophy when it comes to conflict - either in actual war or business. Likewise most of the I Ching is metaphorical - and is quite salient to daily life. Metaphors are great ways to communicate, and there is a lot of valuable underlying philosophical concepts contained in all 3 of those works (the bible, Sun Tzu's Art Of War, and the I Ching). Throwing away writings as nonsense (not to be taken seriously) because parts of it are metaphorical would really leave a person missing out on a lot of well-developed and carefully considered philosophy.

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