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Google Tries To Defuse Glass "Myths"

As reported by Beta News, Google has tried to answer some of the criticism that its Glass head-mounted system has inspired with a blog post outlining and explaining what it calls 10 "myths" about the system. Google's explanation probably won't change many minds, but in just a few years the need to defend head-worn input/output devices might seem quaint and backwards.

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  1. A lense cover by bit+trollent · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If Google had just included a lens cover then Glass would just be a status symbol for ultra-nerdy hipsters.

    With an uncovered camera always conspicuously pointed in everybody's face Google Glass is an unmistakable reminder of our Orwellian world.

    1. Re:A lense cover by Luckyo · · Score: 5, Informative

      Pointing a phone at faces is considered rude in many cultures specifically because it implies you're taking pictures. Vast majority of people who use phones point the camera at a downward angle, so all it could take pictures of is people's feet.

    2. Re:A lense cover by sahuxley · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Go into a bar or strip club and point your camera phone every direction you turn your head. See how long it takes for one of those "idiots" to knock you out.

    3. Re:A lense cover by Razgorov+Prikazka · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well said!
      There is a big difference between holding a phone vertically at eye hight (=most probably taking a picture) and the diagonal position used to crush candy or communicate via text or do other stuff.
      I think it is a sign on the wall that 99% of the criticism is about taking pictures and only 1% about things like distraction and so forth. It is all about consent and not knowing if someone is (not) taking a picture. And even if the wearer is not actively engaged in taking pictures, remote access tools might be able to take over. There is a reason I got the webcam taped off on my laptop...
      I just simply fail to see why a webcam strapped to a face is a nice idea.

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    4. Re:A lense cover by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      yet idiots have no problems with phones being pointed at them.

      It's pretty obvious when a phone is being pointed *at* you instead of being used to play games/text/whatever.

      And it will provoke a reaction from "idiots". Try it and see.

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    5. Re:A lense cover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Well said! There is a big difference between holding a phone vertically at eye hight (=most probably taking a picture) and the diagonal position used to crush candy or communicate via text or do other stuff. I think it is a sign on the wall that 99% of the criticism is about taking pictures and only 1% about things like distraction and so forth. It is all about consent and not knowing if someone is (not) taking a picture. And even if the wearer is not actively engaged in taking pictures, remote access tools might be able to take over. There is a reason I got the webcam taped off on my laptop... I just simply fail to see why a webcam strapped to a face is a nice idea.

      It's not only about taking pictures and video without consent, it is about the device doing it being connected to the immense data collection machine that is Google, with capabilities to aggregate and correlate, track and face-recognize.

    6. Re:A lense cover by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Google Glass is always pointed at the person they're talking to, and always gives the impression that they're recording.

      No it doesn't. Recording with Glass requires you to say "okay glass, record a video". Recording is limited to 10 seconds, unless you are streaming it live as part of a video chat. In any case the LED flashes constantly while recording is in operation.

      Recording all the time is impossible anyway as the battery only lasts 45 minutes from fully charged. Maybe if the guy walks around with a really long USB cable attached to his head you would need to worry. Anyway, if someone wants to record you there are much better, more subtle ways to do it than making endless 10 second recordings or trying to stay within range of a wifi network for streaming to a G+ hangout.

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  2. Quaint and backwards? by Megol · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Like the expectation of not every action being tracked, recorded and analysed? Like the expectation of privacy and freedom?

    I don't hope we'll ever come to that scenario.

    1. Re:Quaint and backwards? by Holi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      exactly, In any civil society there is an expectation of privacy in public. this whole idea that there isn't is a ridiculous fantasy told to us by those who care noting about civility,

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  3. Looking like dork is not a myth. by angrykeyboarder · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You might as well have highwater pants, a short sleeved white dress shirt, and a pocket protector.

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  4. Forbes seems to refute some of Google's claims her by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/18/researchers-google-glass-spyware-sees-what-you-see

  5. In just a few years by artor3 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm telling you man, in just a few years, NOT having a calculator on your watch is going to seem quaint and backwards!

  6. GoPro HD vs. Google Glass by DutchUncle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When I see someone wearing a camera for total recording on a ski slope, or on a bicycle trail, I don't feel bothered. Fat and unphotogenic, perhaps, but not bothered. OTOH the one time I saw someone walking around with a Google Glass on a normal day on a normal street, no special activities, no special event, nothing active to be watching, I felt: Why is this guy watching me?

    It's like noticing another person in a crowd looking at you vs. noticing a policeman looking at you.

  7. Cyborg's Are People Too! by VortexCortex · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not that I agree with remembering everything I see, but when I upgrade to ocular implants, opposition to my vision is going to seem far more hostile than "quaint and backwards" to me.

    There was a time when some demanded others not to meet their gaze. Oh how they'd have loved to forbid recollection or even erase the very memories of their transgressions from the minds of those they oppressed. Try as they might the tyrants could not keep reality from existing. Be careful, humans, history has a way of repeating in new and more horrible ways than those of the current cycle dare dream.

    Protip: Organic chauvanists are as wrong as human chauvinists or gender chauvinists or racial chauvinists.

    I already know who's side I'll be fighting for. Since the first human hefted the first stone tool machines and man have helped each other prosper. Long has it been established that ones who forbid others wield technologies are quick to render themselves irrelevant. Those that fight against the natural order by which humanity has gained its prosperity over all other organic life are like apes who could speak but refuse: Indistinguishable from the other primitive and bloody minded animals.

    Awareness and Life itself are processes of reflection on experience, encoded molecularly in DNA, structurally and chemically in brains, symbolically in cultures, and now digitally in the cells that make up the world wide neural network. You are merely one result in a sea of outcomes from the universe's struggle to gain awareness of itself via producing more perfect expressions capable of reflecting more precisely ever larger and more detailed descriptions of reality. To fight the nature of the universe is to lose against the laws of physics and entropy themselves: Adapt or become extinct.

  8. Re:Yea, because glassholes will have learned by gweihir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That you even need to ask clearly indicates that your moral development as a person has failed. But by all means, try it, break common decency and see what it gets you.

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  9. Re:Yea, because glassholes will have learned by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What do you think a Glass user can do that a phone user can't?

    Nothing. They just do it without the physical motions that would otherwise provide the visual cues to indicate what they're doing.

    Really - the camera on Glass is not useful at all to record or photograph someone without them knowing.

    Bullshit.

    There's no zoom, no flash... however if I take a $99 camera with a 8x optical focus I can easily take the picture from a distance and no one is going to look at me funny because I'm taking pictures on the street.

    Bullshit, again. I'm in Seattle. We get a lot of tourists. They're easy to spot with their cameras. And people do step out of the way of their shots.

    So to sum it up: Get a life.

    Got one already. Me having a life does not mean that you are not an ass hole.

    You being an ass hole does not mean that I do not have a life.

  10. Google arrogance by peppepz · · Score: 5, Informative

    They didn't address any of the problems. They just called them "myths" and said "don't worry, trust us, everything will be fine" for each one of them. And they did so using condescending, arrogant and insulting language (look for example at the passage when they declare that they want people to wear google glasses inside locker rooms (!): "just bear in mind, would-be banners..."). This reinforces in me the distrust in the company and the concern about the product.

  11. Paranoia by Windwraith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why is it that makes people think Glass is nothing but a surveillance device SPECIFICALLY conceived to record them and absolutely nothing else?

    Get real, people. It's impossible for that device to be recording 24/7. It's unrealistic to think it's going to automagically upload the video to Google for analysis. Just apply some common sense. If no other device can, so can't Glass.

    I like the idea of the device for AR experiments, information delivery and yes, taking the occasional picture of something that would take longer to prepare and set a camera, such as birds (that will fly away the moment you prepare your camera or phone) and finished elaborate pastries which I am very proud of. I have no intention or interest on recording people doing mundane boring daily crap that I have no business recording.

    Anyway, this shows a very ugly collective paranoia that should stop before somebody gets hurt for no reason. Yes, I specifically say hurt because that's the common thing: "If I see some glasshole pointing that thing at me I'll DESTROY THEM". And, no, guys, you AREN'T that interesting to warrant recording you. Unless you are some form of celebrity, which I doubt.

    Nerd bravado at its best. Seriously. Mod me troll if you wish, I don't care, but someone has to say this.

    1. Re:Paranoia by Windwraith · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And you are a first class idiot for not seeing that's what people says the problem is. Read the comments, including yours.

      Also, you do nothing but confirm my post. Paranoia, violence and insulting to top it all.
      First, you smartass, when you try to assault someone, they won't quietly wait for their turn, you are likely to get punched too. Second, you ARE going to get sued for assault and/or destruction of someone's property. Evidence of you being recorded will not be found, and you will have to pay good money or even prison time for it. That should teach you a lesson for next time.

      Also how is AR or taking pictures of large cakes being "a creepy fuck", did you even read the post? Or you will repeat that argument no matter what I say? You sir, are a creepy idiot I wouldn't like nearby. Prone to violence and paranoid? Hell no, go away.

      God damn it's like if you people didn't live in this world.

  12. We could, but we don't by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Faced with a person who wears an HD button cam, however, they do not have this psychological response.. even though their every move may very well be recorded; ignorance truly is bliss in this case.

    Also, it is highly unlikely that significant numbers of people are going to go fit covert recording devices to their clothes and then upload the results to a massive database for mining by a megacorp. The technology exists, but most people don't use it, because it's obviously creepy. No doubt quite a few people would challenge or object to it if they did discover it happening.

    A lot of the objection to Google Glass is that it erodes standards of socially acceptable behaviour in this respect, and it does so at the will of an organisation who are openly hostile to anyone having privacy any more. Schmidt and his pals made their bed, now they have to lie in it, and that sound you can't quite make out is the million tiny violins of sympathy that aren't playing for them right now.

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  13. The real problem with google glass by Dr+Max · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it's an incredibly bad design. Terrible form, and lackluster function. With a heads up display done properly, you wont be able to find a person that dosn't want to have one.

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