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North Korea: Male University Students Required To Get Kim Jong-un Haircuts

An anonymous reader writes in with one more reason not to accept that full-ride scholarship to a North Korea University. "Male university students in North Korea are now required to get the same haircut as their leader Kim Jong-un, it is reported. The state-sanctioned guideline was introduced in the capital Pyongyang about two weeks ago, Radio Free Asia reports. It is now being rolled out across the country - although some people have expressed reservations about getting the look. 'Our leader's haircut is very particular, if you will,' one source tells Radio Free Asia. 'It doesn't always go with everyone since everyone has different face and head shapes.' Meanwhile, a North Korean now living in China says the look is actually unpopular at home because people think it resembles Chinese smugglers. 'Until the mid-2000s, we called it the "Chinese smuggler haircut",' the Korea Times reports."

110 comments

  1. Debunked. by oneiros27 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The good news about being late to post stories (that aren't for nerds and don't matter), is that they've already been debunked:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com...

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    1. Re:Debunked. by coolsnowmen · · Score: 2

      Interesting link. wow, the truth is almost more intense than the fictuion..

    2. Re:Debunked. by desertfool · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Kind of sad what Slashdot has become. When CNN is already reporting this as a fake, for it to appear here is a joke.

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    3. Re:Debunked. by LordLucless · · Score: 4, Informative

      That article's a strawman - it's debunking a claim that nobody made.

      North Korea has a restricted number of haircuts that barbers are allowed to perform - 10 for men, and 18 for women. That's not in doubt, that article even referenced the fact.

      The new claim was that the number of allowed haircuts for men was being reduced to 1. That doesn't mean the everyone in the country had to rush out and get their hair cut, it means that the next time they get their haircut, they will be forced to take a Kim Jong-un cut.

      So the fact that a bunch of visitors haven't seen a sudden growth in Jong-un-style haircuts neither proves nor disproves the original claim.

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    4. Re:Debunked. by Nrrqshrr · · Score: 1

      Maybe this is the point? Maybe it was accepted as a form of irony, of self-criticism? Maybe the editors realized that the process of filtering and reviewing submissions lost so much of it's quality that, in a wake-up call, /. editors decided to accept the crappiest of fake stories and front page it anyway. Maybe this story is supposed to be the epitome of what plagued /. for so long now... News that doesn't matter. News that's not for nerds.

      Or maybe they'r just lazy fucks.

    5. Re:Debunked. by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      So the fact that a bunch of visitors haven't seen a sudden growth in Jong-un-style haircuts neither proves nor disproves the original claim.

      So visitors watching men walking out of a barber shop with 1 of the 10 (and not a Jong-un-style) doesn't debunk the original claim?

    6. Re:Debunked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's not in doubt, that article even referenced the fact.

      Yeah it references it by saying:

      And photos of suggested hairstyles posted outside women’s hair salons — the kind of photos a customer points at to speed up the explanation process — are regularly depicted by foreign media as showing the only sanctioned styles North Korean women can choose from.

      Not true. But don’t tell that to the Internet.

      Emphasis added.

    7. Re:Debunked. by cold+fjord · · Score: 1

      Not if the policy isn't in full effect, no.

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    8. Re:Debunked. by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      So, then the article is wrong. There is no current policy to force the haircut mentioned.

    9. Re:Debunked. by Alain+Williams · · Score: 1

      from the Globe and Mail article:

      The campaign claimed long hair hampers brain activity by taking oxygen away from nerves in the head. It didn’t explain why women were allowed to grow long hair.

      Someone has a good understanding of biology :-)

    10. Re:Debunked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you managed to be wrong in every single sentence within your post. That's impressive; have long have you been practising? Are you training for a job in politics or marketing?

    11. Re:Debunked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Kind of sad what Slashdot has become. When CNN is already reporting this as a fake, for it to appear here is a joke.

      Welcome to the world of your Dice overlords. /. is becoming a joke unto itself since the purchase by Dice Holdings. I only visit /. these days to waste time when I am otherwise bored. Maybe the CEO and its employees should be required to get Bill Gates haircuts and play Steve Ballmer's "toss the chairs monkey boy" game.

    12. Re:Debunked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except there is no such policy. Never has been.

    13. Re:Debunked. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interesting link. wow, the truth is almost more intense than the fictuion..

      It is almost funny how quickly the media gobbles up these stories, that "Sentenced his uncle to be eaten alive by dogs" also turned out to be a hoax. I particularly liked Daily Mail article, it was copiously illustrated including a blurred picture of a growling dog:

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...

      They start with that classical Fox News style "...a report claimed" and then go on to describe the 'report' as if it is fact.

  2. Also reported: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not true. Remember, you heard about it on the internet.

  3. Well, it could be worse; by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...at least it's not a mullet

    1. Re:Well, it could be worse; by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...at least it's not a mullet

      Mullets are cool. Kim Jong-un's haircut is just crap.

    2. Re:Well, it could be worse; by rmdingler · · Score: 2

      Billy Ray, though you've been a stranger lately lest folks connect you with Miley, it is good to see you back at the keyboard.

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  4. Wait...they have universities? by Todd+Palin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm glad to hear they still have universities, or is that not true either?

    1. Re:Wait...they have universities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope, the university part is true. Can't have a nuclear program without a strong empahsis on the book learning after all. Like it's southern counterpart, North Korea takes education seriously... for the most part. They DO care about education, it's just that NK schools also spend an enormous amount of time teaching kids about how divine and nobler their glorious dictators are.

    2. Re:Wait...they have universities? by hey! · · Score: 2

      Remember the Monty Python "Dennis Moore" sketch? Well North Korea did it for real. Under the Songbun system turned the old system of hereditary aristocracy on its head, producing ... another hereditary aristocracy.

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    3. Re:Wait...they have universities? by istartedi · · Score: 1

      Yep, they even have Internet with unrestricted access... to 127.0.0.1.

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    4. Re:Wait...they have universities? by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 2

      The official North Korean news website is: Naenara. It's quite interesting in a way. It reminds me of news services from China or the USSR in the height of the cold war.

    5. Re:Wait...they have universities? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That the USA for example.

      What is Godwin's law for Slashdot called? i.e. any Slashdot story about North Korea, after sufficient threads, will claim the USA is similar to North Korea in the given trait being discussed..

    6. Re:Wait...they have universities? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I thought degree is what you go to university for?

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    7. Re:Wait...they have universities? by Entropius · · Score: 1

      Then why do so many foreigners come to the USA to study?

    8. Re:Wait...they have universities? by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      Don't know about the US but here in my 1970's HS in Oz all the boys had to line up for hair inspections every few months. The headmaster would walk behind you and if your hair was anywhere near your collar he would draw a line on the back of your neck with a black marker pen and send you to the barber.

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    9. Re:Wait...they have universities? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 3, Informative

      Stalinist Communism is a really bizarre piece of double think.

      Before the revolution you have evil aristocrats ruling over a mass of brutalised serfs.

      Post revolution you have quite a New Class/Songbun which de facto aristocracy ruling over workers working on collective farms. And workers on collective farms have no right to change jobs, so their status is much more serf-like than it was pre revolution.

      Just to make it even more Orwellian the pre revolutionary system wasn't actually like this. E.g. before the Russian revolution serfdom had been abolished pretty much everywhere

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...

      Not because capitalists are humanitarians but because it's actually more efficient for rich people to employ free labourers for a wage when they're working than to own serfs or slaves.

      Of course if you grow up in Stalinist state you're told that before the revolution (and in capitalist states) evil aristocrats ruled over brutalised serfs and now things are much better even though that's the opposite of the truth. And most likely you know on some level that is false - that the status of workers under 'socialism' is much close to serfs than it was either pre revolution or in evil capitalist states and even worse the ruling class is much closer to being a hereditary aristocracy.

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    10. Re:Wait...they have universities? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The haircuts.

    11. Re:Wait...they have universities? by ButchDeLoria · · Score: 1

      They have a posters gallery, but no order option? They could make a fortune off of edgy teenagers and Free Software advocates.

    12. Re:Wait...they have universities? by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

      We can call this Cohiba's Corollary

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    13. Re:Wait...they have universities? by davewoods · · Score: 1

      +5 internets.
      No wait, AC?!!
      +0 internets.

    14. Re:Wait...they have universities? by dave420 · · Score: 1

      The same reason plenty of people go to other countries to study... The US is not special, but I can appreciate how one would think that if you didn't know better.

    15. Re:Wait...they have universities? by Entropius · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying the US's universities are better than those anywhere else. (They're not.) I'm saying they're not, as great-grandparent insinuated, bad.

    16. Re:Wait...they have universities? by operagost · · Score: 1

      HEY! That's my IP address!

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  5. Getting back at us? by beernutmark · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think it's just North Korea getting back at us for all The Onion stories they have fallen for.

    1. Re:Getting back at us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      where's the like button in this Slashdot thing

    2. Re:Getting back at us? by cold+fjord · · Score: 1

      I think it's just North Korea getting back at us for all The Onion stories they have fallen for.

      I think you mean, "... it's just North Korea getting back at us for all the Onion stories they have implemented as policy."

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    3. Re:Getting back at us? by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1
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    4. Re:Getting back at us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's on Facebook, you worthless fuck.

    5. Re:Getting back at us? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like this post on social media

      Worthless post!
      It requires you to actually log in =)

  6. piffle by koan · · Score: 1

    It's North Korea who cares.

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  7. Re:Haircuts are cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm male and over the age of 26. I might be pregnant. I haven't gotten my period in a long time at least.
    That proves that the government knows what's best for you, so shut up and give them your money.

  8. Spoiler Alert by rmdingler · · Score: 1
    Hey. I hadn't seen this episode yet brother.

    And it's not a fake until our hive says it's a fake.

    News happens, our lessers comment on it, and then and only then, we release a quasi-official opinion.

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  9. Wait, they have students? by raftpeople · · Score: 2

    I can believe they have universities, the buildings at least, but I'm a little suspicious about the whole "student" thing.

    1. Re:Wait, they have students? by luckymutt · · Score: 2

      Could be why the visitors in the article "debunking" the original haircut story didn't see anyone with that cut. It's a law, by one that applies to no one.

    2. Re:Wait, they have students? by LordLimecat · · Score: 1

      University of Potemkin, Class of 2014! WOO!

  10. It's a smokescreen to distract from the REAL order by SpankiMonki · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    ...which sets forth new regulations for the proper appearance of new brides.

  11. Re:Haircuts are cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You do know that an insurance policy is just a policy. The same thing applies to anyone buying it. You could just as truthfully say that women's health insurance covers testicular cancer.

    It's not like insurance policies just changed this year to include it. They've been like that for years. You'd know that if you had ever read your policy.

  12. Much like pro creationism videos on Youtube... by DRMShill · · Score: 1

    I can't determine with any confidence if they're actually serious or not.

  13. Re:Haircuts are cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sure, but on the other hand, I've heard that males are often involved in creating conditions in which pregnancy can occur.

  14. Tomorrow... by jeremyzone · · Score: 1

    And coming on tomorrow's /. news feed will be an article on Andrew Wakefield's new research discovery linking autism and vaccination...

  15. Re:Haircuts are cheap by whistlingtony · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Meanwhile, women have been buying health insurance that covers testicular cancer the whole time. Stuff a sock in it... This is how insurance works. We pool everyone. You're not buying specific health procedures. You're buying decreased risk. That's how insurance works. You got lumped into a pool that includes women.

    If you only want to pay for SPECIFICALLY what you get sick for, we call that self insured. We also call that Not Insured.

    I'm getting really sick of this stupid !@#$ing meme and the stupid !@#$ers that keep repeating it.

  16. Thank goodness for Chinese smugglers. by jcr · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Smuggling and the black market are the only thing keeping North Koreans alive.

    -jcr

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  17. Betweena Moe, Larry, or Curly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'd take a Moe anyday. And it's so easy:

    Phase 1: place bowl on head
    Phase 2: ?
    Phase 3: profit!

  18. Re:Haircuts are cheap by Desler · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Here in the US, males 26 and older are forced to buy health insurance that includes pregnancy, even though pregnancy isn't a health condition for males.

    Yeah, and? Insurance plans have been that way for decades and decades.

  19. How do they tell which end ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Our leader's haircut is very particular !
    Sure that's because their leader's ass and face look the same.
    Wonder what unlucky soul gets the job to pick which side is actually the face?

  20. As The Song Says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Got a Devil's Haircut in My Mind ..."

  21. Dubious company by Smerta · · Score: 2

    ..."we called it the "Chinese smuggler haircut"

    So I guess the "murdering dictator haircut" is in good company.

  22. I wish I could by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tell you that they're a sane bunch here in south korea, but these guys are also nutbars..

  23. Re:Haircuts are cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yea i agree bro

  24. Hoax by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    Come on, it was a hoax

    1. Re:Hoax by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But a good one, it was not SO far out that it was easily debunked.

      Then again, creating a believable hoax around NK is like shooting fish in a barrel.

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    2. Re:Hoax by manu0601 · · Score: 1

      Indeed, since we do not have many real information from the country. Most of what we hear is propaganda from North Korea government, and imagination from western journalists.

  25. Debunked and Disappointed by PopeRatzo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Too bad it's not true, because chicks dig that haircut.

    I understand Jong-un is a real pussy magnet. At least that's what Dennis Rodman says.

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    1. Re:Debunked and Disappointed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Lots of women find themselves suddenly attracted to men who can have them imprisoned or killed if they act disinterested.

    2. Re:Debunked and Disappointed by DocSavage64109 · · Score: 1

      Lots of women find themselves suddenly attracted to men who can have them imprisoned or killed if they act disinterested.

      I thought you were joking until I found this link: North Korea executes leader's ex-girlfriend

  26. Re:Haircuts are cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your impeccable spelling and grammar indicate quite clearly how much of a winner you are. I'm glad that we have people like you to argue so logically against those "loosers."

  27. Re:Haircuts are cheap by wavedalton · · Score: 1

    Women purchase insurance that covers erectile disfunction all the time. Sorry, males are not an oppressed population.

  28. Re:Haircuts are cheap by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 0, Troll

    This is how insurance works. We pool everyone. You're not buying specific health procedures. You're buying decreased risk.

    No, that's not how insurance works. That's how charity works (or wealth transfer, a.k.a. theft, when it's forced). True, you're not paying for specific procedures. However, you should be paying according to the probability and cost of the procedures you're covered for. A procedure you'll never need has zero probability, and thus shouldn't affect your premiums.

    You're not buying decreased risk. Risk is the product of probability and cost; if anything, insurance increases your risk by adding the insurance company's overhead and profit margin. It certainly can't decrease risk for everyone no matter how you structure it; there must always be at least as much payed in as the insurance company pays out, on average, or the company goes bankrupt. The purpose of insurance is to reduce the cost of an insured event to something manageable, in the event it does occur, at the expense of increasing the probability of paying that cost (you have to pay the premiums whether the event happens or not).

    The idea behind insurance pools is to group together statistically independent policies of about the same level of risk. They don't necessarily have to cover the same things, you just want to avoid holding a bunch of cash in reserve, or else bankrupting the company in the event several large claims have to be paid out at the same time.

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  29. Batshit crazy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No real comment, the subject mostly covers it. Batshit crazy. Or, if you are offended by that, then try crazy as a shithouse rat. Pick one. Should not be allowed to emit sperm as its damaging to the human genome. Try this: Batshit crazy as a shithouse rat. Now go get a haircut!

  30. Re:Haircuts are cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it just means I didnt spend my life in an english class getting a doctorate to wait tables and act like an ass on slashdot

    so in otherwords, go fuck yourself ... I need 10 on pump 8

  31. Re:Haircuts are cheap by TapeCutter · · Score: 2

    "Waaaaaa, someone else might benifit if I pool my resouces with them!" - This ignorant, greedy, selfish, and ultimately self-defeating, worldview is the reason why UHC will never work in the US, it's also the reason why private insurance costs so much in the US. Lots of luck finding a private insurance company that will give you a discount after you have given them a pile of extra work adding/removing individual clauses from a boiler plate contract that are clearly irrelevant to you personally.

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  32. You know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The country has a nuclear program. They have every modern thing. They just don't have it for everyone. Why is it always americans that think every other coutry is a dirthole? I've travelled around, and can honestly say most modern feeling is not found in americas dying cities. Never been to north korea, but from what i've seen the places they like to show off look very nice. The "no adds on walls" law seem very nice.

  33. Re:Haircuts are cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except, yes, you are acting like an ass on Slashdot, and unlike your uneducated self, many of us are perfectly capable of getting decent jobs.

    How's that G.E.D. working out for you?

  34. Re:Haircuts are cheap by will_die · · Score: 1

    In insurance they sure are; and only the kook sites keep saying otherwise.
    Men pay more for all other types of insurance, car, life, etc. The one type of insurance that historically men paid a little less for was health and that was not just for because they had less reasons to have medical visits in studies of doctor visit men just visit doctor far less and run up lower costs for visit that are not related to differences in the sexes. As such men could in the past purchase insurance that took that in to account; same way that other types of insurance still do.
    Or I could just go for the humorous response of don't women benefit the most for a cure of erectile dysfunction.

  35. Orwellian? George Orwell was a Socialist. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it." - George Orwell

    I felt the need to share that fact since propagandists always seem to omit it. He would have scoffed at your wage laborer remarks.

    1. Re: Orwellian? George Orwell was a Socialist. by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

      He also thought that the USSR was totalitarian and not socialist. In 1945 he voted for the Labour Party which was democratic socialist. Labour was a party that grew out of the unions and whatever you can say about Labour there were definitely not about turning the workers into serfs.

      Which is the point really - the USSR did the opposite of what democratic socialists like Orwell wanted and called it socialism.

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  36. They're more advanced than we realised! by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    Until the mid-2000s

    Oh shit, they've got time travel!

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  37. Re:Haircuts are cheap by retchdog · · Score: 1

    Risk is the product of probability and cost

    No it isn't, you fucking moron. The product of probability and cost is the expected cost; risk is almost exactly the opposite. Risk is a measure of uncertainty; it's vague because there are many ways to define risk. For instance, one may define risk as the probability that seeking medical care will completely ruin you financially. It's easy to reduce this risk, even if it increases the average cost of medical care. There are many other definitions which I won't bother going over. The point is that you're an idiot. Don't use probabilistic lingo if you don't know what it means.

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  38. North Korea has universities? by Arancaytar · · Score: 1

    what

  39. Meanwhile, in many North Korean barbershops... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are lines of male university students which extend for several city blocks...

  40. Could the Dear leader be wrong? by geirlk · · Score: 1

    Could the Dear leader be wrong?

    After all, haircut #7 looks better. But objectively speaking, my subjective meaning might not matter.

    PS: I guess all responses should hence forth be sent me C/O camp #14.

  41. There IS Precedent by jbmartin6 · · Score: 1

    The Qing Dynasty actually did require males to have the same haircut. China, not Korea, but ideas can spread across borders, even North Korea's

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  42. Not very far-fetched for that insane country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Debunked? Maybe this time, but story was not too far from the truth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let%27s_trim_our_hair_in_accordance_with_the_socialist_lifestyle

  43. Some of us can only dream... by ThatsDrDangerToYou · · Score: 1

    I long for days of old when I could rock the KJU cut! .. in theory.

  44. Re:Haircuts are cheap by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

    As a Man who spent the last 25 years paying for his wife's birth control out of his own paycheck (or via *gasp* his health insurance), that goes double for me. It was an entirely health-related expense, just like the three pregnancies were, and the tubal ligation was. Or should those not be paid for either? In fact, for the last three years, my wife has had a particular "birth control" prescribed to her purely as a method to keep her hormones balanced properly (otherwise she would get migraines so bad she couldn't work).

    I know the whole topic makes immature people like teenagers and Republicans giggle, but the fact is that birth control is a continual and integral part of health care for any family that contains at least one female between the ages of puberty and menopause. Just like pap-smears for women, and protstrate exams for older men. It is all part of the healthcare expenses of being an actual human being with (clutch your pearls here folks) sexual parts.

  45. Re:Haircuts are cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In reverse - how do women get pregnancy related issues without getting pregnant?

  46. "I believe everything I hear out of North Korea" by peter303 · · Score: 1

    The amount of disinformation is astounding.

  47. Re:Haircuts are cheap by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 1

    You're buying insurance for both yourself and your wife, so your case isn't relevant to the discussion. Obviously any policy covering both a male and a female will include coverage for male-specific procedures for the male and female-specific procedures for the female. That doesn't imply that anyone should be forced to buy insurance for a procedure he or she is guaranteed to never need. Gender should be taken into account when calculating risk factors and premiums.

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  48. Re:Haircuts are cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you only want to pay for SPECIFICALLY what you get sick for, we call that self insured. We also call that Not Insured.

    You've missed an obvious intermediate case. Let me break the possibilities down for you:

    1. You pay for specifically what you get sick for. This is self-insurance/not-insured.
    2. You pay for things you might get sick for. This is insurance.
    3. You pay for things that you or other people might get sick for. This is a combination of insurance and wealth redistribution.
  49. Counting their blessings ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... that DPRK isn't being run by Nikita Khrushchev.

    In Soviet Russia, head (of state) shaves you!

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  50. Least interesting thing about Best Korea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Ha ha! North Koreans have absurd hairstyles." This is the level of discourse surrounding North Korea in western media. Do you know what is actually absurd (other than western media)? A whole country that worships it's head of state like a god despite the Kim family's dreadful mismanagement. A civilization that is trying very hard to emulate a bee hive is rather dire from an individual rights standpoint and incredibly fascinating in terms of sociology.

  51. All the Same Haircuts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's hard enough to tell them apart as it is now.

  52. Re:Haircuts are cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here in the US, males 26 and older are forced to buy health insurance that includes pregnancy, even though pregnancy isn't a health condition for males.

    Remove the tea bags from your anus, you're dangeously full of shit.

  53. Actual Story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The real story is that Male will have to remove several inches of their little Kim Jong... to match their leader.

  54. lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    lamer

  55. Re:Haircuts are cheap by operagost · · Score: 0

    In fact, for the last three years, my wife has had a particular "birth control" prescribed to her purely as a method to keep her hormones balanced properly

    This is not the use that people are complaining about. They are talking about ELECTIVE USE OF ABORTION DRUGS AND BIRTH CONTROL. Obviously, not everyone between 18 and 80 uses birth control for hormone control or else, gee, around 50% of the population would be pointing it out.

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  56. Re:Haircuts are cheap by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

    This is not the use that people are complaining about.

    You are absolutely correct that it isn't the way the current Koch-approved talking point is worded. But that hardly matters one bit to the rest of us once the drugs are removed from the insurance company's payment schedule, now does it? The effect most certainly would be that some medically necessary hormone treatments will become unpaid due to the fact that they are accomplished using pills or patches that are also used for birth control.

    And yes, 50% of the population is trying to point this out. I hear it brought up all the time. You probably don't usually hear them if you spend all of your time consuming winger-only media. Go listen to someone who doesn't get their talking points from the Koch brothers. Failing that, you could try listening to a woman once in a while I suppose...

  57. Re:Haircuts are cheap by SleazyRidr · · Score: 1

    The probability of me breaking my arm last year are 0, but the insurance company still wants me to pay them. It's a complete injustice.

  58. And your mother didn't get help? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I take it you don't have a mother then.

    Some of my insurance premiums go to pay for other people's pregnancy, but somebody elses premiums went to help pay for my mother's pregnancies. This kind of general cheapness and self centered attitude is what's ruining the US. Nobody wants to pay for anything unless there's an immediate and obvious pay out for them. We've got rich people that are outraged that the poor might have some choices in their life. You've got "Christians" that are outraged that their non-Christian or different denomination Christians are being provided with birth control on their dime.

    Really, y'all just need to shove a sock in it before you completely ruin the country.

  59. Re:Orwellian? George Orwell was a Socialist. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    When Orwell was alive you could be a socialist and not be complete idiot. We've had another 100 years of history to inform us. That is no longer true.

    The defects in Socialism are inherent. There is no fixing it.

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  60. Yibiddidle Ton boo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I pooped my pants when I saw this

  61. Re:Haircuts are cheap by will_die · · Score: 1

    There is currently a lawsuit about this that was discussed with the Supreme Court last week because obamacare was forcing women who had pleged never to get pregnant to purchase that kind of coverage.