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The Connected Home's Battle of the Bulbs

redletterdave writes: "The current leader in smart lights is Philips Hue Wi-Fi-enabled bulbs. But the competition just heated up last week, with both LG and Samsung unveiling new smart bulbs. Not that Philips is sitting idly by—the boss of intelligent bulbs also unveiled two new products: the Hue Lux LED bulb, a cheaper, stripped-down version of its pricey original, and the Philips Hue Tap, an add-on that lets you trigger lights by touch. But which company will win the battle to illuminate the connected home?"

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  1. I'm worried there will be... by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...an app for that.

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  2. If only.. by colin_faber · · Score: 5, Funny

    There was some way to have a remote... Say attached to the wall, which would allow you to 'touch' it to have the lights turn on and off, or even possibly dim. One can dream..

    1. Re:If only.. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

      There is. Hot glue and an old iphone or old android phone.

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    2. Re:If only.. by chispito · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think the answer he was looking for was "light switch".

      That's a pretty bright idea.

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    3. Re:If only.. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 3, Funny

      I think the answer he was looking for was "light switch".

      That's a pretty bright idea.

      Especially coming from such a dim bulb.

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    4. Re:If only.. by chihowa · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That's a pretty lame reason, actually. What use case (that's big enough to support an entire industry of "smart lightbulbs") involves:

      o light fixtures that don't already have switches installed,

      o users who are not industrious enough to move the lightswitch themselves,

      o users who are too cheap to just have an electrician move it (this is shockingly inexpensive, by the way... typically cheaper than one of these bulbs),

      o users who are fine with accidentally flipping the wall switch and making the whole thing inoperative or covering the switch with tape or something cheesy like that to keep people from switching it (or are industrious enough to rewire the switch and install an ugly blank panel but can't move the switch),

      o and users who can afford (or rationalize) spending $60 or up on a light bulb?

      I guess the intersection of most of that is gadget-addicted renters. Is that really a very lucrative market?

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  3. ..and we need this technology why exactly? by kheldan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Honestly, this sounds like a solution in search of a problem. Why would the average person want or even need to control each bulb in their house individually? Also, won't this make each bulb very expensive, and as others have pointed out, more of a security problem? I just want lighting that's inexpensive and efficient, and I think I represent the majority in this case. You want to remotely control your lighting? There are already products and systems to do that, you don't need the bulbs themselves to do it.

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    1. Re:..and we need this technology why exactly? by bkmoore · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I also want lighting that fits in the fixtures that I have and doesn't protrude beyond the shade. Almost all of these "better lightbulbs" are just too large. Also why make intelligent light bulbs? Wouldn't it be better to put the connectivity into the light fixture, especially if it has more than one bulb?

    2. Re:..and we need this technology why exactly? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The remote gimmick is to distract you from the hidden microphone and cameras built into the bulbs. The "problem" they are addressing is that they can't hear you when you're in the bathroom with the water running.

    3. Re:..and we need this technology why exactly? by Ravaldy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The major advantage I see of having lighting controlled is to allow automatic management of such. Does a bare bone interface to turn on individual lights make sense? IMHO, NO. But with the right software and hardware managing lighting and other devices in a home is an essential step to reduce the bill.

      I can tell you that by simply putting a timer on the exhaust fan, I have managed to save at least $4.00 per month. This is based on local rates and assumes one of the 3 fans was left on for 8 hours. This used to happen all the time where I'd get home and my wife or kids left the fan on after a shower or a number 2. At 160 watt hour that's almost $4.00 per month let alone the cost of replacing the fan, the lost of heating and the list goes on. The switch was expensive (I believe it was $20) but if you think about it I've had them now for 5 years so I've paid all 3 switches many times over.

      Now if we could do this for more components in our house.

    4. Re:..and we need this technology why exactly? by m2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are looking at it from a engineer's point of view. Look at it from a marketing department's point of view: to change a lightbulb you need no tools. Unscrew, screw, done. To change a fixture you need tools, and need to fiddle with wires and screws, and things that can go wrong.

  4. As one-way as X10 by Animats · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When you shut off a lamp manually, Hue may not know what state the light is in. Turn it off with the Tap, and it knows the lights are off.

    They've replicated the one-way communication of X10, then. That seems rather lame.

    Meanwhile, Cree's nice LED replacements for 60W incandescent bulbs are now below $10 at Home Depot. 10 year warranty. They draw 9 watts. Dimmable with existing external dimmers. Just buy a case of those and replace anything that burns out with one.

    1. Re:As one-way as X10 by Tridus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hackers controlling my lights is a feature I can live without.

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  5. Re:The Connected Browser's Battle of the Mute Butt by Physics+Dude · · Score: 3, Interesting

    1. Right click on player
    2. Add AdBlock audio filter to slashdot.org domain
    3. Problem solved! ;-)

  6. More power vampires... by HockeyPuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So now I've got a bulb that when i turn it off at the switch it stops drawing electricity, they want lightbulbs all over my house that are not off but in "standby" mode. Sucking on power throughout the day...

    I remember when lightbulbs were not $15 but $.50.

  7. Re:Some reasons by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Take a look at some Japanese lighting from companies like Panasonic and Sharp for an idea of what real smart lighting is about.

    I bought a Panasonic smart ceiling light. It can change between daylight (6000k) and warm white (2700k), depending on what task I am doing. It also has dimming of course. The output is up to 5000lm but it is diffuse so you don't get a blinding point of light or shadows everywhere. It can direct light behind the TV too to give it some backlighting while keeping the rest of the room a bit dimmer. Naturally it comes with a remote control.

    It also has a constant illumination mode. This mode adjusts the brightness automatically to keep the light level constant as the more or less light comes in through the windows. There is a more advanced version available for offices where the angle of window blinds are adjusted too so that more light comes in without being blinding. The multiple lights in the office can adjust independently so that those at the back of the room supply more illumination to keep the whole place evenly lit during the day.

    Of course it is all 100% LED, low energy. Sharp also built in their Plasmacluster air cleaning technology, and I believe Panasonic are going to do the same with theirs. Sharp have some kind of anti-insect thing as well that somehow deters moths and the like.

    Japanese lighting is awesome. Even some toilets have little night lights in the bowl so you can see when you need to get up in the middle of the night but don't want to be fully woken by 800lm. The whole smart home thing has been around for a while here. Air conditioners sense not only when you are in the room, but where in it you are so that they don't blow cold air directly at you. Remote smart-phone control is becoming quite common so you can have the room cooled just before you get home. Sharp make a robot vacuum cleaner that takes photos of stuff it finds under the sofa and sends them to your phone, just in case you lost them.

    Meanwhile UK lighting is shit and the US is still pissing itself over the phase out of incandescents. I knew there was a reason I moved.

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