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60 Minutes Dubbed Engines Noise Over Tesla Model S

cartechboy (2660665) writes "Did you watch the Tesla 60 Minutes segment the other night? If you did, you might have ended up on the floor rolling around laughing like I did. Since when does the Tesla Model S electric car make audible engine noises? Or downshift? Turns out, 60 Minutes dubbed engine noises and a downshift over the Model S running footage. The show claims it was an editing error. Call it what you want, it was absolutely hilarious. A little note to TV producers assigned to cover Tesla Motors in the future: Electric cars don't upshift or downshift." At least they didn't fraudulently blow it up!

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  1. Lies by nwaack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There is no way that was an editing error. Someone had to purposefully add those noises to the footage. Please.

    1. Re:Lies by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This.

      Definitely one of those "never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence" situations.

      Editor see car, cars make noise, thus, editor add car noise. No conspiracy necessary.

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    2. Re:Lies by AF_Cheddar_Head · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you are over a couple of hundred feet away from the explosion there will be a difference that you can perceive. You know that sound and light travel at different speeds, right?

      If you want a fun demonstration of this get a day on an EOD range, you see the explosion, then hear the explosion, then feel the blast wave, then feel the ground rumble all with different time lag from the actual explosion. Really cool.

  2. This is one thing I love about it by ZorinLynx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Smooth, instant acceleration no matter what your current speed. It's mind blowing when you first experience it.

    I don't get how people can "miss" the sound of a regular engine, and having to shift. A good computer analogy would be "missing" having to manually input bootstrap code to get your machine going. Sure, it can be a nice bit of nostalgia, but it's a requirement of antiquated technology that no longer applies in the case of the Model S.

    I so wish I could afford that car. I hope they can get the price of its successor down into the 30s; I will jump on that SO quick.

  3. Because Hollywood. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The editors who put in car-related audio on all manner of film media are morons, plain and simple.

    I mean, these are the same guys that pipe in 'tires screeching on pavement' sounds every time the Duke boys take off, even when they're on gravel or dirt.

    Frankly, I'd be far more surprised if they didn't add a bunch of fake engine noises.

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    1. Re:Because Hollywood. by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hi. I'm an audio engineer. I've done several short films, nominated for a few awards. You just called me a moron, because you don't understand what I do.

      Frankly, my dear, nobody gives a damn about what a particular car sounds like in a particular situation except for us nerds. Unless the media piece is explicitly focused on how something sounds, having realistic audio is actually distracting to the audience. There are thousands of little noises that our brains filter out because we don't care about them. Someone walks down an alley in a city at night, and their ears will pick up rustling clothes, a jingling zipper pull, creaking pipes, whistling wind, noisy cars, buzzing fans, someone shouting a block away, et cetera. Of course they'll hear their own footsteps, but that's the only thing they'll notice. A good audio engineer will strip out the soundtrack completely, add a noise floor to match the rest of the production, and dub in footsteps. Leaving in the raw audio will also leave in those background noises, but because the audience hasn't been exposed to them, the background noises stand out more, distracting the viewer from the film's actual subject.

      Having tires squeal on gravel is similar. Rather than background noise, the distracting element is that the sound just isn't what's expected. In an action shot, there usually isn't time to properly establish the scenery.

      Consider a scene where the Dukes are waiting by the side of the road, and leave in a hurry. They hop in their car, step on the gas, and rush off from a standstill. Sure, visually you can see it's a soft shoulder, but audibly, your brain hasn't bothered to think about dirt or gravel noises. The first sound most audiences associate with a fast departure like that is a squealing tire. That's what they expect, so having the more realistic grinding noise will raise a different cue in the audience's mind. They'll wonder briefly why the engine is grinding, and worry whether something bad happened to the General Lee.

      In another scene, the boys have pulled head-in to a parking space. After the iconic hood-slide, they have to back out on the gravel before they can take off. That's a chance for the audio engineer to put in a slow gravel noise, hinting to the audience that they should expect to hear gravel. By the time the car accelerates, the audio scene has been established in the listeners' minds. A fast gravel grind may be acceptable, but the squeal is still less likely to distract.

      The professional audio technique, and similar techniques on the visual medium, are a major reason behind the perceived quality difference between professional films and home movies. Subtle echoes, timing, and the selection of noises all contribute to keeping the audience focused in the direction the director wants. Blame him if something bothers you.

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  5. 60 minutes is not longer of value by cfulton · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They have lost all credibility in the last year. They are no longer a news outlet but the paid shills of their network an their sponsors.

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  6. Traffic congestion by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The object of the carpool lane is to reduce greenhouse gas emission per capita.

    The object of a carpool lane is to reduce traffic congestion. Reducing tailpipe emissions is a second order benefit.