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Brendan Eich Steps Down As Mozilla CEO
New submitter matafagafo (1343219) writes with this news, straight from the Mozilla blog, which comes in the wake of controversy over Brendan Eich's polticial views (in particular, his support for California's Proposition 8, which would have reversed a decision legalizing same-sex marriage within the state). and how they would reflect on the organization : "Brendan Eich has chosen to step down from his role as CEO. He's made this decision for Mozilla and our community. Mozilla believes both in equality and freedom of speech. Equality is necessary for meaningful speech. And you need free speech to fight for equality. Figuring out how to stand for both at the same time can be hard ..."
So, in support of free speech, those folks who disagree with him should just shut up?
Maybe when he participates in campaigns to take away people's civil rights.
He was actively trying to pass proposition 8 that would deny people's rights. President Obama in no way shape or form was signing any law that would deny rights. In fact he directed the Justice Department to not defend DOMA. You might want to do some research on the subject.
The neo-Nazis marching in Skokie in 1977 and recent rulings in favor of the Westboro Baptist Church prove that your right to protest and have a contradictory view are protected even when the overwhelming majority disagrees with you. So...you're completely wrong.
The objection to Brendan Eich wasn't his views. It's the fact that he thinks his views should be the law of the land, denying civil rights to others. Once he crosses that line, he had declared himself the enemy of people who support those civil rights- and any repercussions of those people fighting back are his own fault.
Wiki link for the Nazis v Skokie case for those not familiar-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie
I would say that if you are Gay and would like to receive the government benefits associated with a marriage then giving $1,000 to stopping you would fall into the category of "Being a dick to you".
Hey, thanks for at least calling them benefits instead of using the deeply flawed term "marriage rights".
"Lack of speed can be overcome. In the worst case by patience." --Znork
Just as we shouldn't and wouldn't tolerate someone who actively promotes that miscegenation laws are a good thing, we shouldn't tolerate a homophobic bigot like this jerk. Our society has moved beyond this. Don't let the door hit you in the arse, buddy.
Free Speech took a shot to the head. Political Correctness bullshit seems to trump it, every damn time.
Frankly NOW I'm thinking of totally dumping Firefox.
I think having social structures to subsidize the healthy development of nuclear families is important, and have always been happy to pay more taxes than my married peers without complaint. That is what marriage is there for.
But there are a group of sexual deviants who aren't content to simply be left to enjoy their perversions without interference. No, they want to steal those resources that have been set aside for the future and use them to fuel more decadence. And, Mozilla are standing in solidarity with them.
They crossed the line from "outsider" to "aggressor" when they did that.
You know what the general problem with society today is? The strong and the fit gave considerations to the weak and unfit because they have compassion and wanted the weak and unfit to still be able to live with dignity and security. But, somewhere along the way, the weak and unfit forgot that these considerations were given compassionately, and came to actually believe that THEY were the strong and the fit.
It's about time that was rectified.
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Prop 8 support is not a "hate" group. The vast majority of individuals that supported it do not hate LGBTIQ individuals, and it's pretty clear from the various posts from those inside Mozilla (both for and against his resignation) that Eich doesn't either. They simply believe the government should not grant marriage licenses for non-heterosexual relationships.
Hate has a specific meaning: intense or passionate dislike. Recently, it appears that any opposition to one's views, if it removes a perceived or actual human right, is automatically hate. This seems especially true for this issue, and it's very wrong. Those groups which ARE hate groups (Westboro Baptist) should be labeled as such. Labeling all groups as hate groups destroys the meaning of the word and alienates any discussion between people on the topic.
Other examples:
You hate life because you are okay with murdering babies.
You hate me because you're invading my personal rights between me and my doctor.
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