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Apple, Google, and Amazon's Quest For One Remote Control Is Futile

smaxp writes: "If the cable and satellite live television providers were to comment on the latest Amazon Fire TV or reports of the new Google Android and Apple TVs, it would likely be in the voice and character of Charlton Heston: 'We will give up our remotes when they are pried from our cold dead hands.' Amazon's Fire TV and the rumored Google Android and Apple TVs excite and then disappoint. At first glance, it looks like cable and satellite television are about to be outflanked and the eternal struggle with the TV remote and set-top box will be solved with an intuitive interface to search both live television and archival content from streamed online video companies such as Netflix. Sadly, it isn't so. The cable and satellite companies that provide live television have made sure this won’t happen, because putting Amazon in the forefront would make live television providers’ brands less relevant. Amazon would then also have a wedge to pry its way into the live television ecosystem."

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  1. Grammar by vjoel · · Score: 2

    We will give up our remotes when they are pried from our cold dead hands.

    Somehow, I just cannot hear Mr. Heston using the passive voice to say that.

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    1. Re:Grammar by lgw · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have one remote for everything: my wireless mouse. My TV is just the display for my "media PC" (actually a laptop). Everything I watch is easily controlled that way. I can browse my media library through an actual file manager, not some "tiles" BS nonsense. If I need to actually search on Netflix I'll have to grab my keyboard, but that's rare. My favorite radio stations are all online now. What more could I want?

      Now, this wouldn't work if I were foolish enough to send some damn cable company $100/month for "nothing on", but fuck cable companies.

      The best part is, when I occasionally travel, I just take that laptop with me, plus an HDMI cable to connect to the TV in the hotel room if needed. Quite handy.

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    2. Re:Grammar by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 2

      To be honest, in the era of Bluetooth- and WiFi-enabled cell phones, what exactly do we need remotes for?

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    3. Re:Grammar by ThomasBHardy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      While you can get the same functionality on a phone, you cannot easily replicate the ease of use or the in-the-dark familiarity of a dedicated remote on a cell phone screen. I've run cell remotes and they are clever and better than nothing, but not better.

      Having to activate your cell phone, get blaring light in your eyes rather than the dim theater room, and then having to load the appropriate app, and then start pushing virtual buttons, all to lower the volume on a movie is not very efficient or unobtrusive.

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    4. Re:Grammar by lgw · · Score: 2

      There are two things I want to do in a hurry: pause, and change the volume. With my chosen player (MPC), pasue is click-anywhere, and volume is scroll-wheel-anywhere. Meanwhile, my cell phone is over in it's charger when I'm home.

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  2. Wierd headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    From the headline, this looked like customers were rejecting some new, ugly, TV remote app that Apple, Google, and Amazon each had released a variant of.

    From the summary, this looks like cable & satellite TV providers have the gall to want their name on the program search menu, which deeply offends Apple, Google, and Amazon.

    At this rate, I suspect the actual linked article is a rather bland study of the inter-penguin behaviors of a group of rockhopper penguins during a 4 month observation that was initially proposed because the researcher thought the penguin-keeper at the zoo was hot.

    1. Re:Wierd headline by ThomasBHardy · · Score: 2

      Agreed, it's a terribly misleading title. It has absolutely nothing to do with remotes (of which I have one that controls 9 devices in 3 rooms).

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  3. Bullsh*t by MrMickS · · Score: 2

    This is complete and utter rubbish. It may not be time now, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen. Media is converging, we are beginning to see a move away from traditional broadcasters towards creators dealing directly with the end users. It's going to take a little while before its possible, but it will happen.

    The evidence? Youtube for one. The production values are increasing, more content providers are releasing via YouTube and surviving on the advertising revenue generated from there. WWE for another, they're in the process of going direct to customer, cutting out the middle man. More content providers will go this way once there is a reliable revenue stream.

    If content providers go this way they will want their content to be available across all of these devices to maximise their reach. Perhaps it'll go the way of gaming, with the manufacturers paying for a small subset of exclusives initially but will that be sustainable in the long term? It's doubtful.

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  4. Re:Damn you, Amazon and your bluetooth! by DdJ · · Score: 2

    I know this isn't what you meant by "not wanting to give up our remotes," but am I the only one annoyed by Amazon for going with a bluetooth remote?

    I don't know enough to answer that yet.

    I would not really prefer IR.

    If the bluetooth in use is extremely standard, so that other devices and even software can be used to "emulate" it, then I'm delighted, as I'll (eventually) be able to integrate the box with other stuff.

    If it's doing something grossly nonstandard, that just happens to be implemented on top of bluetooth, then I'll be annoyed.

  5. Unbelievable by argStyopa · · Score: 2

    Really, most of us carry a computer in our pocket 99.9% of the time that dwarfs the entire Apollo space program, and nobody can figure out how to remotely control a plethora of network media devices in 2014?

    Seriously?

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  6. This isn't hard to figure out. by thevirtualcat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "We absolutely support your ability to have one remote control for everything... so long as it's produced by us and we lease it to you for a nominal monthly fee." -- Every programming provider ever.

  7. The fault lies at the feet of the HDMI spec by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They screwed up the CEC control protocol so bad that nothing is compatible. They had a chance to spell out the CEC and then DEMAND that in order to use HDMI they must fully support CEC.

    TV and device makers are all ran by major retards that think they need to have special "secret" command codes. and it's complete BS. a LG tv set should be able to control any HDMI device hooked up to it.

    The blame lies at the feet of the idiots that Designed HDMI. They are the ones that need to be beaten with a sack of hot doorknobs.

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  8. Re:WTF happened to CEC by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 2

    " Can someone please confirm that I'm not a total loser faggot?"

    I'm afraid that simply isn't in the cards for you :-(

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  9. Re:Google lost an opportunity by slapout · · Score: 2

    Probably didn't want to spend the money to fight the cable companies

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  10. Only one sort of TV matters by Swampash · · Score: 2

    Sports.

    It's the only sort of TV entertainment where the value of the product drops like a stone relative to the time since broadcast.

    Game of Thrones? Awesome, can't wait, will download and watch it when I get some spare time.

    Superbowl? I'm putting my life on hold so I can watch the broadcast in real time.

    Live sports is the only sort of TV entertainment that is PIRACY-RESISTANT. That's where the money is, so that's where the content licensing battles will be fought.