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The Case For a Safer Smartphone

itwbennett writes: "According to the Virginia Tech Transportation Institute, people who text and drive increase their chances of 'safety-critical events' by a multiple of 23.2. And new research is constantly rolling out, showing the same thing: 'We can't handle the visual, manual, and cognitive commitment of using a phone while driving,' writes blogger Kevin Purdy. What's needed, Purdy suggests, isn't more laws that will go ignored, but phones that know enough to stop giving us the distractions we ask them for: 'I think the next good phone, the next phone that makes some variant of the claim that it "Fits the way you live," needs to know that we don't know what is good for us when it comes to driving. We want to be entertained and shown new things while doing the often mundane or stressful task of driving. More specifically, those phones should know when we are driving, quiet or otherwise obscure updates from most apps, and be able to offer their most basic functions without needing to turn on a screen or type a single letter.'"

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  1. Or people could stop being fucking dumbasses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    but that would be too much to ask.

  2. If you can learn to put a beer down while driving, by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...you can learn to put a fucking cell phone down.

    We don't need smarter apps to tell us to ignore a phone while driving.

    We don't need smarter six-packs. Or smarter makeup. Or smarter food containers. All of these things should not be mixed while steering a ton of steel down the freeway.

    We we need are smarter drivers on the road who fucking know better.

    And I agree. We don't need more laws. What we need is more real consequences like jail time for offenders so that they may wise up. Clearly current methods are not working, and Darwin award winners in this case take innocent lives with them.

  3. Statistics by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Until someone can explain to me how the number of accidents per million miles travelled has steadily declined for almost two decades, yet cellphones are supposedly causing people to drive like they're intoxicated or worse, I won't put much stock in these "safety-critical events" claims.

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    1. Re:Statistics by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm fairly surprised that people who are so anti "distractions" via cell phones (even when stopped) claim it's such a huge distraction, that they overlook climate control and stereos as the number one fiddled with while driving "distraction".

      So do you stare at the air conditioner or stereo for minutes at a time?

      If you've watched a person who is texting while driving that isn't how it works. They start by picking up the phone, and hold it near the hub of the steering wheel. They read the text. Then after about 5 seconds have passed they look up briefly to see what is happening on the road. Then its back to looking at the phone. Then they reply. So they are now really concentrating on that phone and not the road. Perhaps their intentions are good, but that half second scan of the traffic can get extented to 8-9 seconds apart. And that is when they start rear ending people, running redlights, and running over curbs and instaswitching lanes.

      I see it every day on my local highways. And trying to defend TWD is like trying to defend Jerry Sandusky because, "Hey - he did some good for those kids he was boning".

      People have various punishments for TWD'ers, from jail time to taking their licence. All you have to do is take the most important thing in their life. It isn't their freedom or their families. It's that little smartphone that has become more important to them than life itself.

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  4. Differentiate by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How are these going to differentiate between drivers and passengers? And if, as many studies are finding, even talking hands free involves the same risk as texting/etc, does that mean all phone usage would have to be turned off? How about using cell phones as GPS nav devices, something I do often myself, are actual GPS systems somehow magically less distracting? Do we ban all screens in the driver's view, including radios, nav devices, and the instrument panel? I find passengers distracting sometimes, how do they impact accident rates? Or is this getting a bit ridiculous... - HEX

    1. Re:Differentiate by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

      How are these going to differentiate between drivers and passengers?

      They don't need to. By merely switching to silent mode when they detect (somehow) that they are in a car, they are still usable to passengers to make outbound calls/text, play games, or check their incoming. [This means they can also still be used by drivers, but I don't believe the intent is to stop drivers from initiating calls/texts. Just to stop incoming calls/texts/alerts/updates/etc which people have trained themselves, Pavlovian style, to always respond to.]

      Do we ban all screens in the driver's view, including radios, nav devices, and the instrument panel?

      Screens and radios are apparently much less distracting than phones. Driver's can choose when it's safe to glance. (Presumably TV's would be more distracting. And modern car-radios with dozens of tiny little black-on-black buttons are probably worse than your granddad's chromed push-button car-radio, but the audio itself is not that bad.)

      As for GPS, there was research by... BMW?... some years back that showed that voice-guidance (spoken turn-by-turn nav) drastically increased crash rates. Probably for the same reason that phones are so distracting, the device shouts for attention regardless of what the driver is doing. Yet in most (all?) units, voice-guidance still can't be turned off at all. (Nor is it banned in any country.)

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  5. The Nanny Phone by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    needs to know that we don't know what is good for us when it comes to driving

    A) How does it know if you are a passenger or not.

    B) Phones that don't do what we want when we want are considered "broken" by most people, not "helpful".

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  6. Human beings are not born with smartphone attached by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The main problem is that we are human being, that we are *NOT* robot.

    As human beings we are the product of millions of years of evolution - an evolution that did not encounter _any_ form of electronic gadgets until very recently.

    The fact that we can drive a car (or any vehicles) is not because we *adapt* to the way the car operate, but it is another way around.

    We engineer the vehicles so that they can become our tool, and the operation of that tool is *within* our range of capability.

    While using cellphone (and now smartphone) have been accused of causing a lot of accidents, they are not the only distraction. Long before the advent of the cellphone, a lot of traffic accidents were caused by drivers adjusting their radio (either looking for station of turning up/down the volume), or adjusting the seat, or the air condition, or whatever.

    It is thus evidenced that we human beings are not made to be effective "multi-tasking" device

    And smartphones are not the only culprit - I have known drivers who were so distracted by their on-board sat nav devices such as tomtom (and other brands) they drove their car into poles, walls, and so on

    Personally when I drive, I drive. If I have to adjust my seat, my mirrors, my radio, or whatever, I stop my car at the roadside (or any other safe place) to make the adjustment, and then continue my journey.

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  7. Safer phones? Seriously? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People need to stop distracting themselves while driving. Better yet, make sure that anyone who causes damage, injury, or deaths due to their negligence while driving is fully prosecuted under the law. It's no different than driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Driving a vehicle requires responsibility as a driver.

    Let's not kid ourselves. People will just root their phones and bypass any restrictions put in place to block access to the phone while driving. And how the hell would a phone know the difference between a passenger sitting in a car and a driver?

    At it's heart, this really isn't a technology problem, but a societal one. We need to crack down on this sort of stuff, so people understand that it's simply not worth the risk to break the law. It would be awesome if software or hardware could fix all those meatware-related problems, but that's not the world we live in.

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  8. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by timholman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    we need are smarter drivers on the road who fucking know better.

    Here's the problem: we've tried to make people into better drivers since the automobile was invented. It hasn't worked. You can't change human nature.

    People still drive drunk, they still drive distracted. The main reason fatalities have dropped is only because cars are safer.

    We don't need smarter drivers. We need smarter cars ... or specifically, self-driving cars. Take the human entirely out of the equation, and only then will you see a real difference.

    We'll have self-driving cars on the road long before anyone invents a smartphone that "knows what's good for you". And when that happens, the problem of distracted driving will become completely moot.

  9. Re:Time has come to programmatically disable featu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How would the phone differentiate between the driver and passengers? How about passengers on a train? I can't see how this would work without causing a huge swath of collateral damage.

  10. Re:A few ideas on detecting drivers vs passengers. by tim_gladding · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Another method would be to require two-handed dexterity tests that can't be done while driving.

    I'm pretty sure this would be in violation of some anti-discrimination laws. Not everyone even has 2 hands, after all.

  11. Human Nature? by AaronMK · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't buy this "it's just human nature" argument.

    The prevalence of cell phone use while driving is much greater than that of driving drunk. It is not because it is less of a "human nature". It is because there are stronger deterrents.

    If people faced similar penalties to those of DUI (jail time, loss of driving privileges for extended periods of time, etc) for having their hands on the phone while driving, you can bet "human nature" would change accordingly.

    1. Re:Human Nature? by davester666 · · Score: 5, Informative

      not this stupid argument again.

      the passengers have a vested interest in not distracting the driver. and in general, they don't. and they also tend to be looking around, and are likely to alert the driver when they notice a pedestrian in front of the car, or the car is drifting onto the shoulder or into the car in the next lane.

      you can tell that it's happening when you are in the car, and you can't over the phone [or you just don't care].

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  12. Re:Scary, but to some degree it could be done. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Speaking of the radio... I am so annoyed by these new radios with all the menus and crap.

    I grew up with an old car radio that had two knobs, the one on the left was which station, the one on the right was how loud, and it had five in-out sliding thingies under the dial. If you found a station you liked, you picked one of the five little thingies and pulled it out, then pushed it back in. From then on, whenever you pushed on that thingie, it would set the dial to the same place it was when you pulled it out, and would do so until you put the dial somewhere else and pulled it out; then it would go to that somewhere else.

    It was so damned simple and intuitive you did not have to even think much about it, much less look at it, to adjust it properly.

    It required about as much attention as getting a fly off your nose.

    These new radios are a real pain in the ass to mess with when I am trying to drive. I really miss my old radio.

  13. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    we need are smarter drivers on the road who fucking know better.

    Here's the problem: we've tried to make people into better drivers since the automobile was invented. It hasn't worked. You can't change human nature.

    Yes you can, you just need to be tougher.

    Start putting people in prison for a couple of weeks if you catch them texting/driving. No arguments, mandatory sentence for anybody caught red-handed. The word will soon go around.

    Jail time doesn't dissuade gang-bangers (a lot of them enjoy being in prison) but it sure as hell dissuades normal people.

    Or, send them to morgues...to look at some people who texted/drove. They need to know that it *does* have consequences.

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  14. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Informative

    We need enforcement of current laws. I have never, never, seen anyone pulled over for talking or texting on the phone. Let alone charged for it.

    You need to go to Germany. The Autobahns are full of police cars. You can drive at any speed you like. Burn past one at 200mph? No problem.

    Tailgate? Flash lights at people? Drive like a moron in any way and they'll be down on you like a ton of bricks.

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  15. Head-down time by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Aviation human-factors people call this the "head-down time" problem - pilot looking at panel for too long. Big efforts are made to minimize head-down time during takeoff, approach, and landing. In combat aircraft, huge efforts are made to eliminate it outright, with heads-up displays and all essential controls needed during combat on throttle and stick. Pilot training emphasizes these issues.

    Car UI people are just starting to get a clue about this. Early car interfaces were just awful. BMW's original iDrive is considered a classic example of how not to do it. There have some better interfaces since, but the tendency to emulate phones and do everything through a touchscreen is a step backwards.

    Phone people have no clue at all. They assume they own the user's attention.

  16. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by currently_awake · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We need to teach rational thinking in school. Stop indoctrinating passive consumers and start training people to THINK about their environment. Of course then people would start questioning those in power, and that isn't wanted.

  17. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by zephvark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or we could cut off their hands! That would work, right? ...mandatory sentences, my ass. Haven't we had enough of "zero tolerance" rules already? They're much worse than the problems they purport to solve.