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The Case For a Safer Smartphone

itwbennett writes: "According to the Virginia Tech Transportation Institute, people who text and drive increase their chances of 'safety-critical events' by a multiple of 23.2. And new research is constantly rolling out, showing the same thing: 'We can't handle the visual, manual, and cognitive commitment of using a phone while driving,' writes blogger Kevin Purdy. What's needed, Purdy suggests, isn't more laws that will go ignored, but phones that know enough to stop giving us the distractions we ask them for: 'I think the next good phone, the next phone that makes some variant of the claim that it "Fits the way you live," needs to know that we don't know what is good for us when it comes to driving. We want to be entertained and shown new things while doing the often mundane or stressful task of driving. More specifically, those phones should know when we are driving, quiet or otherwise obscure updates from most apps, and be able to offer their most basic functions without needing to turn on a screen or type a single letter.'"

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  1. Or people could stop being fucking dumbasses by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    but that would be too much to ask.

  2. If you can learn to put a beer down while driving, by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...you can learn to put a fucking cell phone down.

    We don't need smarter apps to tell us to ignore a phone while driving.

    We don't need smarter six-packs. Or smarter makeup. Or smarter food containers. All of these things should not be mixed while steering a ton of steel down the freeway.

    We we need are smarter drivers on the road who fucking know better.

    And I agree. We don't need more laws. What we need is more real consequences like jail time for offenders so that they may wise up. Clearly current methods are not working, and Darwin award winners in this case take innocent lives with them.

  3. Statistics by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Until someone can explain to me how the number of accidents per million miles travelled has steadily declined for almost two decades, yet cellphones are supposedly causing people to drive like they're intoxicated or worse, I won't put much stock in these "safety-critical events" claims.

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    1. Re:Statistics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      correlation != causation goes both ways. Just because overall accidents have declined doesn't mean that cell phones don't contribute. There have been other changes- new safety features in cars, improved road design to less high-risk areas, etc, and there could be other factors, such as perhaps people who play video games are less likely to get into an accident, and now we have more people who grew up with video games driving. There is far more going on than cell phone use
      And honestly , how can looking at a screen instead of the road NOT increase your risk of accidents?

    2. Re:Statistics by hypergreatthing · · Score: 2

      I'm fairly surprised that people who are so anti "distractions" via cell phones (even when stopped) claim it's such a huge distraction, that they overlook climate control and stereos as the number one fiddled with while driving "distraction".

    3. Re:Statistics by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      There's a reason for this. The button on the stereo doesn't move. In fact I can mute the stereo without even moving my hands, just push the button on the steering wheel using my thumb. Even on the old bomb car we have here using a stereo is intuitive. I have tactile feedback that can tell me which button I'm pressing and when I've pressed it without ever taking my eyes off the road. I'd also wager that your typical car has less buttons, or even less total functions than there are letters in the alphabet.

      Now please tell me why you think that this is comparable distraction.

    4. Re:Statistics by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I'm fairly surprised that people who are so anti "distractions" via cell phones (even when stopped) claim it's such a huge distraction, that they overlook climate control and stereos as the number one fiddled with while driving "distraction".

      So do you stare at the air conditioner or stereo for minutes at a time?

      If you've watched a person who is texting while driving that isn't how it works. They start by picking up the phone, and hold it near the hub of the steering wheel. They read the text. Then after about 5 seconds have passed they look up briefly to see what is happening on the road. Then its back to looking at the phone. Then they reply. So they are now really concentrating on that phone and not the road. Perhaps their intentions are good, but that half second scan of the traffic can get extented to 8-9 seconds apart. And that is when they start rear ending people, running redlights, and running over curbs and instaswitching lanes.

      I see it every day on my local highways. And trying to defend TWD is like trying to defend Jerry Sandusky because, "Hey - he did some good for those kids he was boning".

      People have various punishments for TWD'ers, from jail time to taking their licence. All you have to do is take the most important thing in their life. It isn't their freedom or their families. It's that little smartphone that has become more important to them than life itself.

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  4. social problems by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why do we keep trying to solve this problem with technology? Until technology exists that only affects the driver, but not any of the passengers, this attempt is useless...And if this is advertised as a "feature" of the phone, it will be turned off. Sure, it might be nice, and might even save lives, but no one is going to put their phone down.

  5. Differentiate by Jonah+Hex · · Score: 3, Interesting

    How are these going to differentiate between drivers and passengers? And if, as many studies are finding, even talking hands free involves the same risk as texting/etc, does that mean all phone usage would have to be turned off? How about using cell phones as GPS nav devices, something I do often myself, are actual GPS systems somehow magically less distracting? Do we ban all screens in the driver's view, including radios, nav devices, and the instrument panel? I find passengers distracting sometimes, how do they impact accident rates? Or is this getting a bit ridiculous... - HEX

    1. Re:Differentiate by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

      How are these going to differentiate between drivers and passengers?

      They don't need to. By merely switching to silent mode when they detect (somehow) that they are in a car, they are still usable to passengers to make outbound calls/text, play games, or check their incoming. [This means they can also still be used by drivers, but I don't believe the intent is to stop drivers from initiating calls/texts. Just to stop incoming calls/texts/alerts/updates/etc which people have trained themselves, Pavlovian style, to always respond to.]

      Do we ban all screens in the driver's view, including radios, nav devices, and the instrument panel?

      Screens and radios are apparently much less distracting than phones. Driver's can choose when it's safe to glance. (Presumably TV's would be more distracting. And modern car-radios with dozens of tiny little black-on-black buttons are probably worse than your granddad's chromed push-button car-radio, but the audio itself is not that bad.)

      As for GPS, there was research by... BMW?... some years back that showed that voice-guidance (spoken turn-by-turn nav) drastically increased crash rates. Probably for the same reason that phones are so distracting, the device shouts for attention regardless of what the driver is doing. Yet in most (all?) units, voice-guidance still can't be turned off at all. (Nor is it banned in any country.)

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  6. Thanks, but no. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When I go feature shopping for a new phone, automatically preventing me from doing shit is not going to be high on the list.

    1. Re:Thanks, but no. by SeaFox · · Score: 2

      You assume you're going to get a choice. In Japan, a cell phone that has a loud, audible shutter-sound when a picture is taken that the owner cannot disable is not high on anyone's feature list, either.

    2. Re:Thanks, but no. by johanw · · Score: 2

      On a rooted Android, all they have to do is to replace / delete / rename /system/media/audio/ui/shutter.ogg.

  7. The Nanny Phone by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    needs to know that we don't know what is good for us when it comes to driving

    A) How does it know if you are a passenger or not.

    B) Phones that don't do what we want when we want are considered "broken" by most people, not "helpful".

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  8. Human beings are not born with smartphone attached by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The main problem is that we are human being, that we are *NOT* robot.

    As human beings we are the product of millions of years of evolution - an evolution that did not encounter _any_ form of electronic gadgets until very recently.

    The fact that we can drive a car (or any vehicles) is not because we *adapt* to the way the car operate, but it is another way around.

    We engineer the vehicles so that they can become our tool, and the operation of that tool is *within* our range of capability.

    While using cellphone (and now smartphone) have been accused of causing a lot of accidents, they are not the only distraction. Long before the advent of the cellphone, a lot of traffic accidents were caused by drivers adjusting their radio (either looking for station of turning up/down the volume), or adjusting the seat, or the air condition, or whatever.

    It is thus evidenced that we human beings are not made to be effective "multi-tasking" device

    And smartphones are not the only culprit - I have known drivers who were so distracted by their on-board sat nav devices such as tomtom (and other brands) they drove their car into poles, walls, and so on

    Personally when I drive, I drive. If I have to adjust my seat, my mirrors, my radio, or whatever, I stop my car at the roadside (or any other safe place) to make the adjustment, and then continue my journey.

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  9. Safer phones? Seriously? by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People need to stop distracting themselves while driving. Better yet, make sure that anyone who causes damage, injury, or deaths due to their negligence while driving is fully prosecuted under the law. It's no different than driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Driving a vehicle requires responsibility as a driver.

    Let's not kid ourselves. People will just root their phones and bypass any restrictions put in place to block access to the phone while driving. And how the hell would a phone know the difference between a passenger sitting in a car and a driver?

    At it's heart, this really isn't a technology problem, but a societal one. We need to crack down on this sort of stuff, so people understand that it's simply not worth the risk to break the law. It would be awesome if software or hardware could fix all those meatware-related problems, but that's not the world we live in.

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  10. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by timholman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    we need are smarter drivers on the road who fucking know better.

    Here's the problem: we've tried to make people into better drivers since the automobile was invented. It hasn't worked. You can't change human nature.

    People still drive drunk, they still drive distracted. The main reason fatalities have dropped is only because cars are safer.

    We don't need smarter drivers. We need smarter cars ... or specifically, self-driving cars. Take the human entirely out of the equation, and only then will you see a real difference.

    We'll have self-driving cars on the road long before anyone invents a smartphone that "knows what's good for you". And when that happens, the problem of distracted driving will become completely moot.

  11. Re:Time has come to programmatically disable featu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How would the phone differentiate between the driver and passengers? How about passengers on a train? I can't see how this would work without causing a huge swath of collateral damage.

  12. The Perfect Phone Feature For Safety by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 2

    Have a small amount of C-4 explosive in the phone. If the phone is switched on when the velocity is greater than 30 mph *BOOM*.

    And instead of airbags, we should also have daggers sticking out of our steering wheels, poised directly at our hearts. That way people will only be able to drive like assholes once.

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  13. A few ideas on detecting drivers vs passengers. by JoeyRox · · Score: 2, Interesting

    One way would be turn on the phone's front camera when driving speeds are detected and use facial recognition algorithms to detect when the person is driving...for example one way would be to require the person to stare at the phone for a minimum amount of time...and also keep looking at the phone. Another method would be to require two-handed dexterity tests that can't be done while driving. I realize all of these might actually increase the risk from die-hard driving texters since it would distract them even more.

    1. Re:A few ideas on detecting drivers vs passengers. by tim_gladding · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Another method would be to require two-handed dexterity tests that can't be done while driving.

      I'm pretty sure this would be in violation of some anti-discrimination laws. Not everyone even has 2 hands, after all.

    2. Re:A few ideas on detecting drivers vs passengers. by hypergreatthing · · Score: 2

      ridiculous.
      Your ideas are half baked at best.
      Such a phone would
      a) never sell
      b) never work
      c) two handed dexterity tests?
      Let me fill you in on something. A lot of phones now a days can be voice activated.

    3. Re:A few ideas on detecting drivers vs passengers. by sumdumass · · Score: 2

      A better way would be to just use the phone's blue tooth and pair it to the car. Allow the driver to enter a code and use the phone for keyless entry and such as an incentive. But just have the car tell the phone when to go into a relaxed mode or whatever when the vehicle is in gear and going over a certain speed.

      There can be an override on the phone so if your a passenger, it doesn't matter and of course you can cancel the pairing. Most people will forget about the phone's features unless they want to make a call or text or whatever. But they won't feel the need to answer texts or phone calls so it will largely be transparent to them and avoid the most usages.

  14. Already taken care of by FrostDust · · Score: 2

    AT&T Drive Mode

    Motorola Assist

    Apps like these seem to do most everything the blogger is looking for:

    • Blocking / auto-responding to texts
    • Detect when you're driving (manually disable if used as passanger, or otherwise needs to be used)
    • Allow voice control
    • Doesn't depend on car integration support
  15. complete bullshit by Kohath · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It hasn't worked..

    This is complete bullshit. Driving has been getting safer for 40 years and the trend is even longer and more obvious if you report fatalities per mile driven.

    People still drive drunk

    Drunk driving is down, even if you use the inflated "alcohol related" numbers.

  16. FUCK BETA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    seriously, this redirecting to BETA even after I type in www instead is getting REALLY FUCKING OLD.

  17. Human Nature? by AaronMK · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't buy this "it's just human nature" argument.

    The prevalence of cell phone use while driving is much greater than that of driving drunk. It is not because it is less of a "human nature". It is because there are stronger deterrents.

    If people faced similar penalties to those of DUI (jail time, loss of driving privileges for extended periods of time, etc) for having their hands on the phone while driving, you can bet "human nature" would change accordingly.

    1. Re:Human Nature? by davester666 · · Score: 2

      that's just it. somehow the idea's been altered from what actually distracts the driver.

      the real problem isn't that the driver is holding the phone to their ear.

      the problem is the conversation they are having.
      if it's just a light, "about nothing" conversation, it doesn't totally kill your ability to focus on the road, but when it is about anything important, your brain switches to putting the conversation in the foreground for you, and driving goes into the background.

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    2. Re:Human Nature? by davester666 · · Score: 5, Informative

      not this stupid argument again.

      the passengers have a vested interest in not distracting the driver. and in general, they don't. and they also tend to be looking around, and are likely to alert the driver when they notice a pedestrian in front of the car, or the car is drifting onto the shoulder or into the car in the next lane.

      you can tell that it's happening when you are in the car, and you can't over the phone [or you just don't care].

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    3. Re:Human Nature? by davester666 · · Score: 2

      and just to follow up, yes, there are interactions between passengers and drivers that should be/are illegal while driving. having a big shouting argument with the driver. driver reaching around trying to settle down a screaming child.

      if the object you were holding to your head wasn't a cell phone, just a block of wood, people would think it would be stupid to hold it to their head, but it wouldn't distract them from driving.

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    4. Re:Human Nature? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

      the passengers have a vested interest in not distracting the driver. and in general, they don't. and they also tend to be looking around, and are likely to alert the driver when they notice a pedestrian in front of the car, or the car is drifting onto the shoulder or into the car in the next lane.

      So, the driver can't pay attention to the road while talking, but a passenger beside or behind him has no trouble at all paying attention to the road while talking?

      In my experience, the passengers pay even less attention to the road than the driver, since they're not the ones behind the wheel....

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    5. Re:Human Nature? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      not this stupid argument again.

      Thanks for making help slashdot grate.

      the passengers have a vested interest in not distracting the driver. and in general, they don't.

      Bullshit. They usually do distract the driver, because they're not in tune with driving. When you stop talking to concentrate on driving for a couple of seconds, your passenger is highly likely to say something else to see if you heard them, because people are self-important.

      and they also tend to be looking around, and are likely to alert the driver when they notice a pedestrian in front of the car, or the car is drifting onto the shoulder or into the car in the next lane.

      Also bullshit. They tend to distract the driver with bullshit concerns about drifting into the car in the next lane while the driver is moving over next to the line to avoid some jackass who's drifting over the line on the other side. The passenger doesn't have to be in tune with what the cars around them are doing, so they almost never are. The driver does have to. I know what some of the drivers around me are thinking about doing because I'm concentrating so hard on what is happening around me, and have a massive corpus of information on what cars will do next based on what they're doing now stored in my head — and I'm not focused on anything else. Because that car drifted a little left while the driver looked that way, I know they're thinking about merging, and I'm already plotting out an alternate route around them (because as usual, I am passing) before my passenger even knows that there's a potential issue.

      you can tell that it's happening when you are in the car, and you can't over the phone [or you just don't care].

      You could, if you were concentrating as hard on driving as the driver is. But you aren't.

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    6. Re:Human Nature? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      My boys might have a vested interest in not distracting me, but this doesn't mean that they realize during the heat of the moment that their fighting and screaming in the back seat of the car is distracting me. Should kids be banned from cars? What about babies? They might need a diaper change right in the middle of a long drive where there is nowhere to pull over. Nothing like the smell of a ripe diaper coming from the back seat to distract you. Except, perhaps, the tell-tale sound of an diaper explosion that may or may not have been contained by the diaper. Should babies be banned from cars?

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  18. Re:Scary, but to some degree it could be done. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Speaking of the radio... I am so annoyed by these new radios with all the menus and crap.

    I grew up with an old car radio that had two knobs, the one on the left was which station, the one on the right was how loud, and it had five in-out sliding thingies under the dial. If you found a station you liked, you picked one of the five little thingies and pulled it out, then pushed it back in. From then on, whenever you pushed on that thingie, it would set the dial to the same place it was when you pulled it out, and would do so until you put the dial somewhere else and pulled it out; then it would go to that somewhere else.

    It was so damned simple and intuitive you did not have to even think much about it, much less look at it, to adjust it properly.

    It required about as much attention as getting a fly off your nose.

    These new radios are a real pain in the ass to mess with when I am trying to drive. I really miss my old radio.

  19. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Interesting

    we need are smarter drivers on the road who fucking know better.

    Here's the problem: we've tried to make people into better drivers since the automobile was invented. It hasn't worked. You can't change human nature.

    Yes you can, you just need to be tougher.

    Start putting people in prison for a couple of weeks if you catch them texting/driving. No arguments, mandatory sentence for anybody caught red-handed. The word will soon go around.

    Jail time doesn't dissuade gang-bangers (a lot of them enjoy being in prison) but it sure as hell dissuades normal people.

    Or, send them to morgues...to look at some people who texted/drove. They need to know that it *does* have consequences.

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  20. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Informative

    We need enforcement of current laws. I have never, never, seen anyone pulled over for talking or texting on the phone. Let alone charged for it.

    You need to go to Germany. The Autobahns are full of police cars. You can drive at any speed you like. Burn past one at 200mph? No problem.

    Tailgate? Flash lights at people? Drive like a moron in any way and they'll be down on you like a ton of bricks.

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  21. Head-down time by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Aviation human-factors people call this the "head-down time" problem - pilot looking at panel for too long. Big efforts are made to minimize head-down time during takeoff, approach, and landing. In combat aircraft, huge efforts are made to eliminate it outright, with heads-up displays and all essential controls needed during combat on throttle and stick. Pilot training emphasizes these issues.

    Car UI people are just starting to get a clue about this. Early car interfaces were just awful. BMW's original iDrive is considered a classic example of how not to do it. There have some better interfaces since, but the tendency to emulate phones and do everything through a touchscreen is a step backwards.

    Phone people have no clue at all. They assume they own the user's attention.

  22. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The ultimate fix isn't more jail time [1], because you can toss a ton of people in jail, and there is a drunk texter right behind them. The ultimate fix is going to be autopiloted cars.

    [1]: Well, unless you are a Corrections Corporations of America stockholder which is enjoying a stock rise that is actually better than Apple, percentage-wise.

  23. We'll need more 911 operators by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 2

    911 Operator: "911. What's your emergency?"

    Sobbing voice: "I just can't take it anymore. I need someone to talk to."

    911 Operator: "That's OK ma'am. I'm here to talk to you. What's your location?"

    Simpering voice: "I'm stuck in traffic on the intersate. It seems like hours since I talked to anyone and my phone won't let me call anyone but you."

    911 Operator: "You'll be fine ma'am. We're trained to deal with cell phone withdrawl victims. A nice highway patrol officer is on his way to talk to you in person. How long have it been since you made a phone call ma'am?"

    Anguished response: "I don't know. I left the office at 5:00 and talked to BFF until I got in my car but the phone dropped the call as soon as I started the engine. What time is it now?"

    911 Operator: "It's now 5:15 you poor dear. You've been without cell phone contact for at least 10 minutes. I'll send the paramedics as well as the highway patrol."

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    1. Re:We'll need more 911 operators by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 2

      So people do still buy phones to make calls? I thought it was all about the "smart" stuff nowadays. Or was that the actual joke? :)

      I take it that you don't drive very much. Still lots of people yakking away on their cell phone and oblivious to traffic around them. I especially like the ones who are so wrapped up in their conversation that they don't notice the light has changed and glare at you if you honk your horn at them with a look of "Can't you see I'm busy with my conversation!" There's a reason why a lot people have a bumper sticker that says, "Shut up, hang up and drive."

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  24. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by currently_awake · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We need to teach rational thinking in school. Stop indoctrinating passive consumers and start training people to THINK about their environment. Of course then people would start questioning those in power, and that isn't wanted.

  25. Re:Safer phones? Seriously? by rkww · · Score: 2

    People need to stop distracting themselves while driving. Better yet, make sure that anyone who causes damage, injury, or deaths due to their negligence while driving is fully prosecuted under the law.

    You mean something like this ?

    It's illegal to ride a motorcycle or drive using hand-held phones or similar devices. The rules are the same if you're stopped at traffic lights or queuing in traffic.

    You can get an automatic fixed penalty notice if you're caught using a hand-held phone while driving or riding. You'll get 3 penalty points on your licence and a fine of £100.

    Your case could also go to court and you could be disqualified from driving or riding and get a maximum fine of £1,000. Drivers of buses or goods vehicles could get a maximum fine of £2,500.

  26. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by zephvark · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or we could cut off their hands! That would work, right? ...mandatory sentences, my ass. Haven't we had enough of "zero tolerance" rules already? They're much worse than the problems they purport to solve.

  27. Multitasking by ExecutorElassus · · Score: 2

    The problem lies, in part, with what I guess you could call the aesthetic of multitasking. We love to think that we're good at it, but -- as research has proven over and over [warning: first link is a pdf download] -- we are actually really shitty at it. The same is true of driving. I remember as a kid riding in my dad's car, how he would try to change the channel on the radio, or do something with the A/C, and immediately start veering the car off the road. At stoplights, the minute he stopped thinking about it, his foot came off the brake and the car would roll out into the intersection.

    I don't think fixing cars or cell phones is going to get to the root of the problem. The root is that people think they can do more than one thing at a time and not trip over their own damn feet. Since changing the culture seems out of the question, no amount of technological fixes is going to save us from trying to do more than we're cognitively equipped to do.

  28. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Isn't flash-to-pass what they do in every civilized nation?

    Nope, that would be coercion ("Nötigung").

  29. Re:If you can learn to put a beer down while drivi by Antique+Geekmeister · · Score: 2

    We need cars to have safe places to hold the cell phone, possibly tied to the car's audio. While many modern cars have a USB connection to the car stereo and for recharging a cell phone, there is no safe place to deposit your cell phone so it can continue to give directions or be voice controlled. The result is a mad scramble to put your phone down somewhere in the right orientation so it will continue to give good directions. Or worse, flailing around to run your finger across the "accept this call" slider without crashing the car. That part is not helped by voice->text systems, or an ear bud.

  30. Fix: Hardware keyboards + no laws against texting by nctritech · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When I had a T-Mobile G1 phone with the lovely five-row hardware keyboard AND prior to "no texting and driving" laws going into place, I could cruise down a highway with low to moderate traffic, texting away for the entire ride, and still watch everything going on around me. I did this regularly. I could see every brake light and every erratic movement. I could also easily drop my phone and jerk the wheel if someone nearby got way too unstable. I'd hold the phone at the top of the wheel with both hands on the wheel and the phone at the same time, and my field of view included both the tiny phone screen and the massive windshield.

    Hardware keyboards made this relatively safe, as I could type text very accurately without looking except to check periodically. No five-second distractions. On-screen keyboards ruined this; now I have to deal with an inaccurate touchscreen and pray that my auto-correction works properly (and that I didn't hit a letter that auto-corrected to the wrong word!) Texting while driving became a traffic ticket, on top of the demise of the hardware keyboard. Now I can't text at all; it's not safe because I'd have to hide it and on-screen keyboards are difficult to use without a great deal of focus.

    People don't stop texting while driving when it's illegal. They get smart and do the texting well out of view of an officer, which means you have the long distraction of on-screen keyboards and looking far away from your driving environment to read and write combined. The perfect storm of texting while driving, and it's the drive for thin phones and banning texting while driving that caused it. Then cops do this shit which illustrates the utter ridiculousness of the situation. If you have to buy big pimpin' SUVs to catch people texting while driving, maybe you should consider whether you're attacking the root of the problem or just one of the symptoms.

    You can't stop people from texting while driving, so my solution is as follows. Drivers would need to not text when in heavy traffic or poor weather, which I think is really stupid in the first place and should be common sense. Phones need to return to slide-out 4-5 row hardware keyboards which allow the typing to happen without requiring concentration on it. Texting while driving should be made legal as long as it happens in such a way that the driver's eyes are still within the general "windshield field of view" while doing it, which means hands would have to be on the wheel and peripheral vision would be doing its job.

    This would be the safest combination. You will never stop people from texting while driving. Punishment is not a deterrent. No one thinks they're going to get in trouble for minor shit like this until they actually do; why not greatly reduce the risk involved instead of increasing it with laws that ban it? Then again, they still haven't understood this concept about marijuana and other currently illegal drugs, so I suppose we should expect no less.

  31. Re:Human beings are not born with smartphone attac by dgatwood · · Score: 2

    Google's self-driving cars have gone 300,000 miles without an accident. That's somewhere in the neighborhood of 30–42 average-teen-driver-years worth of driving. Statistically, about 1 in five teenagers reports having an accident in any given year. So we would expect that the same number of miles driven by teenagers would have resulted in, on average, 6–8 accidents—more if we're talking about teenagers in their first year of driving.

    In other words, Google's self-driving cars are already at least an order of magnitude safer than teen drivers. That's probably a statistically significant difference.

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