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Ask Slashdot: What Tech Products Were Built To Last?

itwbennett writes: "When you think about tech products these days, you probably think 'refresh cycle' more than 'built to last.' But there are plenty of tech products that put up with hard, daily use year after year. Here's a few to get you started: Logitech MX510 mouse, Brother black & white laser printer, Casio G-Shock watch, Alvin Draf-Tec Retrac mechanical pencil, Sony Dream Machine alarm clock. What's your longest-lasting, hardest-working device?"

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  1. Commodore Amiga 3000T by LWATCDR · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Still works as does my IBM PS2 Model 95. There are still DEC PDP-11s in daily use as well.

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    1. Re:Commodore Amiga 3000T by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Fluke multimeters...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    2. Re:Commodore Amiga 3000T by brokenin2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I used to work there (on that line for a while), and one of the jobs was to beat them up a bit before they went out the door, just to make sure they could take it.. (We were careful not to scuff them up, but did need to subject them to a couple of impacts in each direction as part of the final testing).

      Note, when he took it apart in the video, he very likely *did* make it go out of spec at that point.. It's normally just the high voltage that goes out of spec, but would normally only mean that you got a reading of 1007 VAC instead of 1000 VAC.. Still somewhat close..

      He should send it back for recalibration after his adventure..

  2. My toilet by kruach+aum · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's gotten nothing but shit every day for 30 years and it still works just as well as when I first got it.

    1. Re:My toilet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Let me guess, you piss in the sink?

    2. Re:My toilet by omnichad · · Score: 4, Funny

      Works better when you hook it up to your home water supply.

    3. Re:My toilet by rolfwind · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Toilets really are one of the best tech inventions of all time. And I do mean tech in every sense of the word. Porcelain is the best material for it, and while the chinese had it for a long time, when the west (Kingdom of Saxony) got it/discovered it, it gaurded the secret closely. Thankfully it got out, are it would be relegated to fancy sculptures and plates.

      This isn't to mention all the requirements like running water and sewer system... but a lot of tech resembles Maslow's hierarchy of needs, as in the oldest stuff is generally the most essential, and as time goes on, the newer stuff is icing on the cake.

  3. HP Calculators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I still use my HP-11C and HP-32S calculators at least weekly. They're now 25+ years old, and I've changed the batteries maybe twice.

    Enter > Equal ..... Yeah!

  4. Model M Keyboard FTW by TimeZone · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These things are awesome. The ones I've got were built in the mid 90s and still clicking.
    TZ

  5. HP LaserJet 4M+ by jakedata · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It sits there in standby waiting for print jobs that almost never come, then with a wheeze the top fan blows out the accumulated dust, the lights dim briefly and I get my printout like it was 1999.

  6. LaserJet II and LaserJet 3 by sphealey · · Score: 5, Informative

    HP LaserJet II and LaserJet 3 - worked reliably for 20 years and probably quite a few of them still in use.

    sPh

    Admittedly as noted above no high-tech product can yet match the longevity of a well-built plumbing system - some of them are over 2000 years old and still functioning as designed, while most major cities still depend on water and plumbing infrastructure build 1880-1920.

    1. Re:LaserJet II and LaserJet 3 by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      You'll probably still use them after they catch fire though.

      We had one at work, the damn thing smelled like a fucking two-cylinder engine puking fumes when it printed even though the prints were fine.

  7. Anything built before 2001 by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The quality difference between pre 2001 electronics and now is astounding. Current products are all utter junk compared to earlier stuff.

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    1. Re:Anything built before 2001 by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      There were junk devices back then too.
      I got a $15.00 mouse that worked for 2 month and failed.
      Laptop Drives were notoriously bad. Memory could fail on you...
      I needed to get a new internal modem every few months.

      The real difference before 2001 we were expected to pay a couple of grand on your PC. and a lot more for a workstation. Because these things were so expensive they made sure they used quality parts. Post Tech Bubble pop. We started to opt for cheaper/faster/lighter So cheaper and Lighter means more flimsy plastic, where metal was used, but we wanted faster too so they had to cut costs in more areas of quality. Having it last 4 now is considered a good run.

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    2. Re:Anything built before 2001 by egarland · · Score: 5, Insightful

      We always get a false impression of the reliability and quality of old stuff, because the stuff that sucked and broke got thrown out years ago, and the only things that we still encounter are the ones that were well made. It's true with old houses, old cars, old furniture, pretty much everything. I'm sure there's a law for this phenomenon with some pompous dude's name on it but it's a well established and discussed phenomenon.

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    3. Re:Anything built before 2001 by darkwing_bmf · · Score: 5, Informative

      We always get a false impression of the reliability and quality of old stuff, because the stuff that sucked and broke got thrown out years ago, and the only things that we still encounter are the ones that were well made. It's true with old houses, old cars, old furniture, pretty much everything. I'm sure there's a law for this phenomenon with some pompous dude's name on it but it's a well established and discussed phenomenon.

      I believe the term you are looking for is Survivorship bias.

  8. The clear winner overall is so obvious by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Informative

    IBM's Model M keyboard.

  9. test gear that was made in USA in the 50s and 60s by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I always like to point to one of my fave brands of TM gear (test and measurement): power designs.

    go to ebay and search for these 3 words 'power designs precision'. see the metal concentric dials? those are not to be seen in today's gear; unless its a photo of one on a touch screen somewhere (sigh).

    I have at least 4 of these models and they date from the late 50's to early 60's. some caps might need changing (not need but suggested) and some deoxit-d5 cleaner on the switches and that's that! 100uV dial-in resolution, microvolt level noise and hum, current load at full rated cap for 7x24 duty cycle and the PSU can be thrown off a truck and still work to factory specs.

    they tend to be $100 or so, used. if you built that today using those specs, it would be 10x to 50x the price, if you could even GET it built today (no, china could not even build this if they tried).

    old tektronix and HP gear still works great after 30+ yrs. lots of old US designed and BUILT gear is still fully reasonable to use today. its repairable and the user guides, back then, actually had circuit descriptions, schematics and even names/addresses of companies that make the parts that go into the box! you NEVER see anything like that today. you can't even get schematics from agilent or fluke or keithley or tek anymore, on their current gear.

    I like to point to power designs (precision) line of gear as stuff that was built to last 50+ yrs and I have actual proof that this is not a dream. I'm over 50 and I'm not doing as well as some of the gear in my tech shop.... ;)

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  10. Re:MacBook Air 13 Inch by rochrist · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've got a Power Mac G4 from 2002 that's been running my professional recording studio for 12 years now without a hiccup.

  11. Teletype machines by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I have several Teletype machines from the 1926 to 1940 period. All are in good working order. They're completely repairable; it's possible to take one apart down to the individual parts and put it back together. But they're high-maintenance. There are several hundred oiling points on a Model 15 Teletype. There are things that have to be adjusted occasionally, and manuals and tools for doing that. Every few years, the entire machine has to be soaked in solvent to clean off excess oil, then relubricated and adjusted. This is the price of building a complex machine good for a century or more.

    (The Model 33 of the minicomputer era is not one of the long-lived machines. This was by design. The Model 35 was the equivalent long-lived, high-maintenance product; the 33 required little mainenance but had a llimited life.)

  12. Re:Atari 800 by Altus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Its not easy to get JoeWalsh out of bed in the morning. I assume it is because he goes to parties.... sometimes until 4.

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  13. Alarm clock???? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Alarm Clock? Really?

    I used to live across the street from police & fire stations. I can sleep through anything. A few years ago, searching for ever louder and more earth-shaking alarm clocks, I got to thinking about that. For tens of thousands of years mankind has not had alarm clocks. We relied on the Sun and Daylight to wake us up. So I went down to the local megamart and bought a digital outlet timer. You know, the sort of thing you use to turn your lights on automatically while you're out of town. Hooked up a power strip to it, and plugged in a bunch of $5 floor lamps. Nothing like a Redundant Array of Inexpensive Lamps.

    Every morning at exactly 6:55 the digital timer turns on and my room is brightened by 5,000+ lumens of light. It's a nice way to wake up. Very gentle. You come out of sleep slowly rather than abruptly.

  14. HP48g by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Still works like a charm (and still a bit slow, hehehe).

  15. Re:Atari 800 by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Funny

    "my scsi-3 bus is fast and its wide,
    I lost my R-term and now it won't drive."

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  16. Re:Atari 800 by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 5, Funny

    I have a firewall
    So I won't get jacked
    My password's weak
    So I still got hacked

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  17. Re:test gear that was made in USA in the 50s and 6 by mlts · · Score: 4, Informative

    I would say that my old HP48SX calculator with a card for additional functions still works and is useful. Engineering calculations are engineering calculations, and the tactile feel of the buttons is a lot more accurate than trying to use an emulator on a smartphone.

    Just the small engineering touches showed outstanding build quality. For example, the card had an edge connector, but there was a sliding metal flap that kept the connector on a card shielded until it was inserted into the calculator.

  18. Voyager 1 & 2 by MetricT · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Roughly 40 years old and still doing science.

  19. Re:Egarland's law by egarland · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think you're confused.

    egarland's law states that only pompous windbags have their names associated with obvious phenomenon that everyone has always known.

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  20. Re:Atari 800 by sconeu · · Score: 4, Funny

    So got me an office
    With a fat cat-6 pipe
    Send me an email
    Maybe I'll skype.

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  21. Re:MacBook Air 13 Inch by Sloppy · · Score: 5, Funny

    A computer that has run for three years. That's so cute!

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  22. Nokia 5110 by Onuma · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My old Nokia candybar phone (c. 2000) is practically indestructible. To this day I can still charge it up and play "nibbles" in all its LCD monochrome glory. Too bad the cell towers don't support its signal anymore...

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  23. IBM ThinkPad by Sepodati · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was going to say the IBM Thinkpads, too. Like any computer, they eventually get old and underpowered compared to the new stuff, but they keep chugging. Mine is from 05, I think right after Lenovo bought 'em, but it's still the IBM version. One key is missing, case is cracked and there are a few grey pixels, but it still works (typing this on it now). Made it through deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan, too.

    Is that "long lasting" or is it sad that 9-10 years out of a laptop is considered long?