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Consumers Not Impressed With 3D Printing

Lucas123 (935744) writes "Putting a 3D printer beside the coffee maker in every home, as some manufacturers hope will happen someday, is a long ways from reality as consumers today still don't understand how the technology will benefit them, according to a new study. The study, by Juniper Research, states that part of the problem is that killer applications with the appropriate eco-system of software, apps and materials have yet to be identified and communicated to potential users. And, even though HP has announced its intention to enter the 3D printing space (possibly this fall) a massive, mainstream corporation isn't likely to change the market."

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  1. Premature much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whining about lack of software as a roadblock to mass adoption of home 3D printing is absurd at this point in time.

    Inexpensive 3D printing is still barely more than a toy for hobbyists. I have one (mendlemax 2), and while I love playing with it, I recognize it for what it is.

    The path forward as I see it for home 3D printing is:

    - spend a long damn time in the hobbyist domain
    - eventually capabilities will hit a point where actual useful products can be produced, but it will still be way more effort to do so than to buy the equivilant mass-produced item.
    - small niche markets will open up offering custom things and replacement parts that are no long available. I forsee a long period of time where 3D printing is practical, but at a small business level rather than a home level. The "bring your model down to staples" phase if you will.
    - eventually some people will start using these services regularily and start dreaming of having one at home
    - this is when 3D printing at home really takes off

    This is however so far away that I may not be alive to see it. When the time comes, I'm sure someone will whip up a slick UI...

    1. Re:Premature much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But I'm sure scumbag companies will ruin this otherwise good idea by somehow requiring the printers to have DRM or random restrictions.

    2. Re:Premature much by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The path forward as I see it for home 3D printing is:

      You forgot the part where people find a way to use it for sexual gratification. New technology meets yesterday's primal urges. Same story, different day.

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    3. Re:Premature much by ArcadeNut · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I agree with most of what you say. I also own a 3D printer (Solidoodle 3)

      I see two main things that are keeping 3d printing from really taking off in the home. Once they solve these two issues it should really take off. There are other minor issues that need to be addressed as well, but the two issues that need to be fixed are : Speed and Reliability. I've designed up a product that I would like to print, but it takes 1.5 hours to print, and that is if it makes it fully through the print. Issues with warping, clogging, overheating, etc... are the main concerns about reliability.

      I would be happy if they could cut my print time in half, but it's the current limitation of the technology being used in the home market. Some other technology is going to have to be used in order to overcome both issues, but those technologies are currently out of the budget for home users.

      Unlike the post above, I do think it will happen in my lifetime though.

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    4. Re:Premature much by aix+tom · · Score: 5, Insightful

      On the other hand, 15 years ago about ~90% of my friends who had computers had printers at home to print their photos, these days none of them has (including me).

      Take your memory stick to the local supermarket or photo shop to get high-quality prints from a working, regularly serviced photo printing machine is cheaper and the quality is better. The same way I print Photos maybe 5-10 times a year at most, I can't imagine I would need/want to 3D print something that often that having my own 3D printer would make sense.

    5. Re:Premature much by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Insightful

      3D printing is a prototyping tool, not a serious production tool.

      It's flying cars all over again, man.

    6. Re:Premature much by ArcadeNut · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, for me it's Arcade parts. There are a lot of obsolete and hard to find/expensive parts. There are also a lot of custom parts I have designed to use in Arcade games.

      One example of something I did use it for was when I was building the rack to hold the spools of material for the printer. I printed the mounts for the PVC pipe and I printed the Wall Anchors used to secure it in sheet rock. I printed the wall anchors because I was assembling it and didn't have any and all the stores were closed. So I figured, what the hell, I can just make them. I'll probably use it to build some custom tools and other things that would come in handy around the house.

      Honestly, for the average person, a 3D printer probably wouldn't be used that much right now. I do think that once the speed and reliability are addressed, and the price comes down, more people will find new and unique uses for a 3D printer.

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    7. Re:Premature much by mi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I dunno. Speed would not be high on my list of priorities. My dishwasher takes over 2 hours to wash the load, and that's acceptable. The reliability — which you mention second — is much more important in my opinion.

      And then comes the standardization of the data-files and of the raw materials.

      I would not mind paying a designer of a printable widget for his work — so a DRM of some kind would be alright, even if irritating. Because I'd still be able to have the piece in a couple of hours after buying it, instead of waiting at least a day for the (expensive) overnight shipping.

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    8. Re:Premature much by mysidia · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But I'm sure scumbag companies will ruin this otherwise good idea by somehow requiring the printers to have DRM

      It's going to be the government passing regulations that 3D printers available to consumers have tamper-proof measures to prevent consumers from easily having direct control over them, AND...

      requiring that only digitally signed 3D part designs can be printed --- which will have been through a regulated approval process, to ensure that the parts can't be used to construct a weapon such as "Liberator" 3d printed gun, or other dangerous or concealable weapons

  2. Same with photo printers by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's the same deal with photo printers. It's much easier and cheaper to go down to Walmart or Costco when you need to print out your photos and get them to use their professional quality machines to do the job. I think that 3D printers will end up in the same sport. You'll go down to Walmart, and get them to print out an item for you. You'll only need it maybe 5 times a year, so there's no point in owning your own 3D printer. There's already services where you can send a 3D file and somebody will print it out and ship it to you.

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  3. Perhaps by Highland+Deck+Box · · Score: 5, Funny

    if they could create a 2D printer that wasn't a crotchety piece of shit, then people would be more excited. I don't look forward to trying to unjam some 3D printer nozzles full of melted plastic.

    1. Re:Perhaps by Shakrai · · Score: 5, Informative

      if they could create a 2D printer that wasn't a crotchety piece of shit

      There are dozens of different quality printers on the market today. They just cost more than the $30 people are willing to pay for an inkjet printer from Wally World.

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    2. Re:Perhaps by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Informative

      if they could create a 2D printer that wasn't a crotchety piece of shit, then people would be more excited.

      My Brother laser printers are anything but crotchety pieces of shit.

      Maybe you're just buying crappy printers?

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  4. Apt quote by SteveFoerster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    “If I'd asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse.” – Henry Ford

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  5. wrong target by slashmydots · · Score: 4, Interesting

    My friend's company just got a multi-million dollar 19-axis robot for carving custom wood. They're the only ones in America with one that does specifically what they do. It has already paid for itself in 3 years. If they didn't work with wood and did prototypes or CNC or something more 3d printer friendly, dropping a few thousand on a top of the line 3D printer would be no problem. A shipment of materials costs more than that. The staff hours carving custom parts out of plastic alone would pay for it. So I'd say they need to target businesses first, use the funds to make the technology much better, THEN go cheap and target the residential customers with even lower priced machines.

  6. Consumers are right by WrongMonkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    3-D is ok for a one-off prototype. But who needs a $1000 device that takes hours to print a happy meal toy?

  7. The Big Bang Theory quote time by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Raj and Howard in front of a 3d printer:

    Raj: Ooh. I, I think it's done.

    (Opens door to printer)

    Raj: It worked! We printed a whistle.

    Howard: Amazing. You realize these things go for 25 cents a pop at a party store.

    Raj: And we made it in only three hours!

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  8. It's a culture problem. by mosb1000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Right now we have a consumer culture that doesn't really teach people to make and repair their own things (which is what a 3D printing would mostly be useful for). So while a 3D printer might someday be useful for a mechanic who needs to make car parts or a shoe salesmen who needs to make a custom shoe, most people are still expecting to go to someone else to get those things. As the technology improves and can make more things (metal parts, rubber, glass, composites) and people get more used to it, we may see the market for the technology grow, assuming it isn't outlawed first.

  9. The killer application by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In more than one way it will be the killer application, for not only will it be the application that makes everyone want one but also the application that will send a very, very powerful enemy onto 3D Printing: Printing car replacement parts.

    Think of all those small and not so small little bits of plastic that you have to pay for through the nose when (or should I say, as soon as) they crack. On your car, your motorcycle, your various other appliances. But with car manufacturers this will not be very popular, as one can imagine. They make quite a bit of money with spare parts and the planned obsolescence of various parts that "just so happen" to wear and tear.

    Now, with patents it's fairly easy to keep other manufacturer from ruining this very profitable market. It's way harder if every Joe Random can make their own parts, essentially for free.

    If you thought the battle of content owners vs. file sharing was fierce, just think what the battle between car part manufacturers vs. part printers will be.

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  10. HP might make it work, but with DRM. by Animats · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The problem with most low-end extruder-type printers is that the engineering sucks. Most 3D printers work by trying to push a string with a gear (which jams or fails to feed), trying to weld a hot thing to a cold thing (which produces weak welds), trying to perform a process that is very temperature-sensitive without air temperature control (which makes the process fail frequently), and trying to weld a plastic that has too high a coefficient of expansion (which causes cracks during cooling).

    Some of them then follow up by building a 3-axis motion system out of thin wood (too flexible), and using screw threads and nuts (too much play and backlash) instead of Acme lead screws and recirculating-ball nuts (like real CNC tools.) The end result is miserable process repeatability. This is why a big fraction of hobbyist-level 3D print jobs fail.

    HP can probably solve those problems. Many of them are similar to the problems inkjet printers and pen plotters face. HP made both of those technologies work well. It wasn't easy. As one engineer pointed out, intuition fails you when trying to understand what's going on with ink at microdroplet size. HP had to use supercomputers to simulate the fluid dynamics before they got a print head that worked really well. (Of course, most of the engineers who did that were laid off years ago.) Many of the problems with 3D printers are cheaply solveable if you're making hundreds of thousands of them, not hundreds.

  11. Kinko's by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I can pick up a dishwasher replacement part printed out by Whirlpool at my local kinko's and it costs less and is just as good as a cast one then 3D printing will have arrived. Till then it's for hobbyists and specialist.

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  12. Re:Well DUH by queazocotal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    'As soon as people learn that they can print a new battery cover for a remote control, or replace a small broken part of a kid's favorite toy, or some amazing thing no one has yet thought of, they'll start picking up.'

    But they can't.
    Unless that was your point.
    Take your average consumer, and give them a 3d modelling package.
    Ask them to make a battery cover.
    It needs to fit precisely in the hole - often to +-0.2mm tolerances or it won't slide in right.
    It needs to have a properly designed 'spring' or it's going to fall off again.
    They don't have an accurate metrology thing that would let them measure the size of the hole.
    They are at best inexperienced when trying to run 3d modelling software, much of which is at best challenging to use.

    It's going to take most people quite a while before they can actually print something that fits.

    This may well be too high a barrier to entry.

    Printing things from thingiverse et al is another matter.

    At the moment, a 'Customers not impressed with CNC lathes' story would make almost as much sense.

  13. Consumers Unimpressed by Personal Computing by Fulminata · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That would have been the headline in the 70s. This is why consumers don't generally drive innovation, and why judging the prospects of a new technology before its had time to overcome some of its early weaknesses is premature.

  14. Re:Well DUH by bws111 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or, you could just continue doing what people do today: tape it back on. Total expense, tenth of a cent. Total time spent, 15 seconds.

    If those kinds of things are what people are hanging their visions on, forget it.