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Google May Be $1 Billion Behind In Tax Payments To France

An anonymous reader writes "Ars Technica reports, 'Technology giant Google has been delinquent on its tax payments in France for the past few years, to the tune of more than $1 billion in missed payments, and it now may be hit with a sizable tax penalty by the French government.' Google asserts that it has operated within the law in France, but the French government has reason to believe that in order to avoid French taxes, Google has been passing off some of its business contracts as Irish rather than French."

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  1. Re:So few by cheesybagel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Google, Amazon, Apple escaping taxes and it starts to add up to real money.

  2. Re:So few by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If they don't like the laws the company is free to not operate in the country. If they choose to operate there they must follow the law. I have no sympathy for them, they knew what the deal was when they stablished there.

  3. Re:So few by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem is that they are following the laws in these countries. The governments have the legislative powers and have created tax systems that don't work under these conditions, but instead of fixing the problem, it's politically better PR to just blame the big organisations for having decent accountants.

    In cases where that creates a hostile public feeling toward a company, that can be a surprisingly effective strategy -- certain businesses that operate in the UK have recently changed their accounting practices so they declare more taxable income in the UK -- but usually the amounts involved are relatively small, just enough to counter the bad press with a good soundbite about how many million they paid in tax last year -- and it doesn't really work on businesses that utterly dominate their industries and/or don't deal much with the average guy in the street anyway.

    Sooner or later, these governments are going to have to get their act together and fix the broken system properly, but I suspect a lot of them are hoping the next election will come and go first so either they have some breathing room or it's someone else's problem.

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  4. Re:So few by Blaskowicz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dear leader? The French president is more like Ronald Reagan than Dear leader lately.
    The 75% for income above one million euros (after deductions), was a symbolic measure as it concerns very few people and is still not applied. Just stuff waived around to get elected. Same president had pleaded to renogotiate the treaty on European Stability Mechanism, but didn't. Not a single point or comma was changed. Now this government will get us in the Great Transatlantic Market, or whatever it's called in which US corporations will dictate their laws to the countries and European Union, putting an end to national democracy.

    Dear leader my ass! We're trapped, with a presidency and governnement that have "socialist" in name but are right-leaning collaborationists, more in the way of Tony Blair and Gehrard Schroeder.

  5. Re:Same tricks played in UK by jemmyw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem with sales tax (VAT) is that it taxes the poor more than the rich because the poor tend to spend a greater proportion of their income. It is also quite a burden to administer for companies and government. It is also an inefficient tax for states with welfare - government gives you money and then you give a large portion of it back again.

    I don't have a solution though, even though it is something I think about often. But it seems to me that what we really need is for some way to experiment with widely different tax regimes. But what country is going to be willing to suffer negative consequences of doing so?

  6. Re:So few by Fuzzums · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "The government redrafted a proposed bill to levy a temporary 75% tax on earnings over 1 million Euros."
    -- on earnings over 1 million Euros --

    Personally I don't see the problem to contribute more to society if you earn that much money.

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  7. Re:So few by Carewolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The US had a top marginal tax of 90% during it richest times of the last century. Why does it bother you so?

  8. Re:So few by Tom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    the wealthiest has resulted in a lot of them just flat out leaving that country.

    Which is why tax laws need a lot more international corporations.

    Right now, the rich and the mega-corporations are turning countries into enemies that fight each other over "competitive" tax rates, when they should be allies fighting the tax evaders with criminal prosecutions.

    It's just another trick to make you and me pay indirect subsidies to the rich. Even if you're anti-government, you can't deny a simple truth: Every $ that some rich dude or corporations evades in tax payment has to be paid by the rest of us instead.

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  9. 75% tax on rich does not exist by aepervius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have no idea where you are getting that idea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T... there is a 60% tax on inheritance but only if you are a remote relative. There are high income tax on very high income (41% top), and there is a very low tax on wealth (around a 1% if you are millionaire , and atround 2% if youa re over 10* millionaire). As for the article it does not speak at all about a 75% tax. As for the article, it was really written by an american "France is famous for its generous social benefits, somewhat relaxed work ethic" there are country (like germany, Sweden) which have as generous and as relaxed "work ethic". In fact I suspect the usage of the word "ethic" here as being american prejudice only.

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    1. Re:75% tax on rich does not exist by AlterEager · · Score: 5, Insightful

      "France is famous for its generous social benefits, somewhat relaxed work ethic"

      That relaxed work ethic that gives France one of the highest GDP/hour worked in the world.