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China Censors "The Big Bang Theory" and Other Streaming Shows

dryriver (1010635) writes in with news that the Chinese government has had enough of the antics of doctor Sheldon Lee Cooper. "Chinese authorities have ordered video streaming websites in the country to stop showing four popular American TV shows, including The Big Bang Theory and The Good Wife, senior staff from two sites said Sunday. The move suggests government attention is intensifying on the online streaming industry, which is freer than state television and China's cinemas to show foreign productions and other content and has stretched the boundaries of what can be seen in the country. A spokeswoman for a leading online video site, Youku, said it had received notification on Saturday not to show sitcom The Big Bang Theory, political and legal drama The Good Wife, crime drama NCIS and legal drama The Practice."

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  1. Well judged by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    All terrible shows that the world could do without.

  2. Re:One of these things is not like the others... by pla · · Score: 3, Insightful

    China. Not Russia. Yes, I am a fucking moron.

    But I ninja'd all the haters who will now repeat this correction, at least. :)

  3. Re:One of these things is not like the others... by rmdingler · · Score: 5, Funny

    The road to first post is plagued with face plants.

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  4. Re:How is that any different by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

    Or CBS blocking me from watching it in Canada, eh?

  5. Quality Control by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Funny

    You seem to assume that all Chinese censorship is purely politically motivated. The Big Bang Theory probably just fails basic quality control standards.

    1. Re:Quality Control by cold+fjord · · Score: 2

      Authoritarian governments often see the political in what we consider the mundane. They are often wary of allowing "Western" or "bourgeois" ideas to "corrupt" the masses under their control. Even literature or art from their own society can be banned. Consider the example of Doctor Zhivago:

      During Cold War, CIA used ‘Doctor Zhivago’ as a tool to undermine Soviet Union

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  6. Re:One of these things is not like the others... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    China is much more concerned about "cultural contamination", not just political contamination. While the Chinese are Communists, they are not the hyper-political communists of the Soviet Union where culture such as religion and traditions were a plague to be eradicated, they are Communists with an eye towards preserving their very ancient culture.

  7. In unrelated news by arielCo · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Chinese Ministry of Culture reports a 3-point increase in the average urban IQ.

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    1. Re:In unrelated news by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      Please explain to me what is or has been on TV, that is actually smart TV?
      Almost all public media that lasts more then one season (TV/Comic Books/Radio/Popular Blogs...) in general are made so someone with an 8th grade education will be able to get it. That is where the money is in. And if you get too much past that then viewers will drop.

      Why 8th grade? Well that marks an end of a students general education and they begin specializing. Some kids take more electives in the Math and Sciences, others towards Art and Music, and others go to Writing and Literature. Then when they get into college they will focus down on a particular Major, Grad School they will begin to focus down further in a particular topic in that Major. Then finally PHD where you focus on one thing in that topic.
      Because people get specialized it gets harder to market Smart broadcasts because you start weeding out people who haven't studied much in that particular topic and will not get it.

      If you want to get informed on a topic without schooling you will need to go to more geeky places on the internet. Read the academic Journals, Find mentors who are experts to help you out. But for general media, you will just get the overview that a 13 year old will be able to understand.

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  8. I just watched "The Other Guys" on Channel 5 UK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Excellent movie, but it was missing almost all references to the banking system and TARP funds. For example, the entire scene at the end, where Derek Jeter hands them documents regarding banking fraud (their "next case"), was cut. The info graphics credits sequence omitted everything but the Ponzi scheme part (but it wasn't just cut off after that; the credits continued with the part after the info graphics). You can view the sequence on Youtube, but that's not complete either: It's missing the AIG and TARP bits.

    So China bans Big Bang Theory. What is being hidden from you?

  9. Re:One of these things is not like the others... by macpacheco · · Score: 5, Interesting

    tBBT shows enough pure unadulterated American freedom that is in conflict with sanitized state controlled media.
    China isn't the only country whose govts are pissed with pure uncensored internet freedom. Even my Brazil "democracy" has tried to police twitter, facebook, google plus to censure critics of politicians specially right before elections. Remember Turkey has banned twitter and facebook.
    Realize that without serious state controlled media, China will fracture into dozens of states. It's internal language, cultural and social disparities rival only the former USSR.
    China invented the technique of legalism back in (259 BC – 210 BC) when "China Qin Shi Huang" gave his name to his country, in the past having even censured attempts to use history against current rulers.

  10. So? by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 2

    American companies stream movies to China.
    But they don't do the same thing to Europe (Game of Thrones as an example).
    How is that even billed? And now we have an uproar that China is censoring it.
    Wow ... I would like to have an uproar that we are forced to pirate movies because they get published here (in Europe) months if not years after they were made ...
    I'm fed up with movies/books being available in Europe months or years after they where made, for what ever reason ...
     

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    1. Re:So? by LordLimecat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dont kid yourself: You arent "forced" to pirate it, you choose to because you want the content they produced but dont want to play by their terms.

      Maybe that doesnt bug you, but at least be honest about it.

    2. Re:So? by QQBoss · · Score: 2

      tv.sohu.com, though, is a legal streaming site and TBBT has been pulled from their, but 2BG (Two Broke Girls) is still available. I would think that this is a mind-boggingly bad decision, except I do meet people in China that feel they need to ask if women really do have Sex in the City, and if there really are so many murders every day in the USA to justify all the police dramas. Yet most of them can recognize that the Chinese war dramas may not be the best way of learning World War II history.

      That, and if you really want to terrify people about going to or admiring the USA, perhaps 2BG and Shameless are the best shows on American TV from a Chinese official's point of view. Oh, and Ellen, which is on a path to become just as bizarrely popular in China as in the USA.

    3. Re:So? by mjwx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Dont kid yourself: You arent "forced" to pirate it, you choose to because you want the content they produced but dont want to play by their terms.

      Dont kid yourself, when people find terms unreasonable, casual copying becomes justifiable.

      Ultimately piracy is a delivery problem, not a legal one. Here in Australia if I want to watch Game of Thrones I need to pay Murdoch A$70+ a month and have to do it on Murdoch's time table. Both of these are unacceptable to me. So downloading it is the only acceptable option remaining.

      The old system used by HBO and Murdoch's Foxtel is dying a slow death. People dont want to wait for shows to be on, they want to watch them at their own leisure nor do they want to have to pay for 30 channels of bullshit to get 1 show. Piracy isn't a scourge on humanity as Murdoch et al. would like to perpetuate, it's merely the market reacting to conditions they find unacceptable. If you want to see piracy of your show plummet, make it available through as many channels as possible for a reasonable price. The easiest way to do this is to allow anyone to resell it for a flat (per copy) license fee that people will accept.

      However they want to continue to prop up outdated ideas like exclusivity. So they will have to accept that piracy is an acceptable alternative.

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    4. Re:So? by Windwraith · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, there's no "need" to pirate per se. But in several cases getting that content legitimately, in Europe, is close to impossible. We are not talking just "delayed release" as the parent poster said, we are also talking about stuff that never, ever, is released commercially in Europe or regions of Europe for whatever reason. Not to mention some European countries like Spain do everything in their power to prevent you from legally purchasing products from other regions, or at least make it much more expensive than it should.

      This is different as don't wanting to play by their terms, this is literally having no terms to play with in several cases. And I understand his sentiment, it's a big deal when China can't have those, but when Europe doesn't have US-produced content, shows or articles, nobody gives a damn and we even get called out on pirating stuff we can't purchase without being rich. Please.

      Maybe that doesn't bug you, but it's a thing that happens, believe it or not.

    5. Re:So? by rtb61 · · Score: 2

      Yes, we are forced to pirate. A fair and reasoning sense of fairness applies with regard to all of the times we have been lied to about the quality of content and have been sucked into paying for shit. That sense of fairness demands that in response to being repeatedly defrauded as regards to the quality of the content being sold, we endeavour to recover non-refundable capital and also to ensure we are not again cheated in the future, we fully test out content prior to paying for it. If the content is sufficiently worth while as to justify a payment then it is made, less of course all of the times with have been cheated by falsely advertised qualities or prior purchased content. If you do not think that is fair, then I believe that you think it is reasonable to lie to people about the qualities of content in order to cheat them of their money, so screw you ;). Now that's being not only honest but fair and just.

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  11. Cats' tongues all the way down. by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    Three CBS and one ABC. Production companies don't align either.

    The shows themselves may not be objectionable, keep in mind. It may be payback or threat for other things, movies or something. In Iron Man 3, it's probable The Mandarin was converted from an evil actual Chinese guy to a lame cover story so as to not offend lest that and future movies be banned...or taxed extra hard.

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  12. Outsourcing by LMariachi · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hopefully we can get China to censor Big Bang Theory here in the U.S. too.

    1. Re:Outsourcing by mark-t · · Score: 3

      One is compelled to wonder what the aversion to the show is that I see so prevalently on slashdot. Rr is the antipathy based on a sentiment that seems generally opposed to anything that might be categorized as pop culture... a notion that in my observation seems most prevalent among nerds in the under-30 crowd.

      For myself, I like the show... my wife introduced me to it in what I would discover was season 3, and she now routinely mentions to me that my "Sheldon is showing" whenever I start acting like a dick without really meaning to.

  13. the internet no longer routes around it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Maybe in the past, but the more we centralize everything, the more censorship-tolerant (and surveillance-tolerant) the internet becomes.

    It needs to move to p2p, strongly encrypted communication. If it doesn't, it will die under the force of organizations that don't want freedom of communication.

  14. Is it really censorship? by sshir · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I suspect it's more like a form of protectionism. They can't slap some serious tariffs due to WTO or whatever. So in order to protect fledgling local production they do a form of bang-bang control: now you can watch that and now you can't.

  15. Re:One of these things is not like the others... by larryjoe · · Score: 2

    "... when "China Qin Shi Huang" gave his name to his country ..."

    Someone should have suggested to the emperor that he could actually name the whole country after himself. I imagine he would have been very pleased. Of course, he would have had to come up with a name that wasn't based on Indo-European languages. Maybe a cursory look at Wikipedia on the etymology of China is in order.

  16. I think it is three things by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One is that they do a pretty good job portraying various kinds of geeks. Since it is a comedy it makes light of unflattering and silly characteristics that those geeks have. Well, many people can't laugh at themselves. Real life Sheldon Coopers can't laugh at themselves any more than the character can, and thus the character would be something they don't like.

    Another is jealousy. The characters on the show have generally had a good deal of success in love, despite being geeky, with very pretty women. This is something that many of the real life geeks on Slashdot do not share. Hence, there is jealousy of the characters.

    Finally there is the hipster-ish anti-pop culture thing. That somehow, if something is popular, it can't be good. For many geek, part of the identity is being an outcast, being different, and liking different things. So liking something mainstream won't do at all for them, not because they don't actually like it but because it would conflict with their self identity.

    Personally, I think it is hilarious. Not quite as good as the IT Crowd, but I enjoy it and it makes me laugh regularly. Being that it is a comedy, that is all I can ask :).

    1. Re:I think it is three things by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have watched a fair amount of The Big Bang Theory, but something I read put most clearly into words what bothered me about it: The Big Bang Theory's jokes are very often about humiliating its characters for being geeks/nerds. On the other hand, see Community, which, while it also makes fun of its characters, it lets them have geeky interests without making fun of them for it. The other not-funny-ness in The Big Theory is pretty much normal for sitcoms (e.g. the laugh track other comments are complaining about).

  17. Re:The BBT - Good start, not enough stamina by tragedy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's maybe becoming more like the TV show "Friends" with everybody in a relationship

    That kind of tends to be the pattern in real life as well.

  18. Re:If only Australia would follow suit by ButchDeLoria · · Score: 2

    We have a medium that makes it possible to bring the best in the world to our doorstep

    Yeah, it's called the Internet.

  19. Re:Good move by smooth+wombat · · Score: 2

    I've no idea what sort of creds the writers have

    Considering Mayim Bialik is an actual neuroscientist and several of the consultants for the show are physicists, the creds of the writers are very well established.

    Don't forget Danica McKellar who showed up for an episode, with her degree in mathematics (sum cum laude). Stephen Hawking, Brian Greene and Neil Degrasse Tyson have also appeared with Hawking lending his electronic voice to a handful of episodes as well.

    The fact of the matter is the show is written to both poke fun at the foibles of the nerd/geek crowd as well as provide a light-hearted commentary of some of the people, similar to yourself no doubt, and how they perceive things. Yes, much of it is formulaic but the zingers are worth ignoring the obvious plot holes (the most common of which is how Penny can survive on a waitress salary).

    It's a show. Stop being a nerd and trying to dissect everything as if it's supposed to have some grand, overarching meaning to anything.

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