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Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Loses Deep Sea Vehicle

Posted by samzenpus on from the davy-jones's-locker dept.

First time accepted submitter Mr D from 63 (3395377) writes in with news about a WHOI vehicle that has been feared lost. "On Saturday, May 10, 2014, at 2 p.m. local time (10 p.m. Friday EDT), the hybrid remotely operated vehicle Nereus was confirmed lost at 9,990 meters (6.2 miles) depth in the Kermadec Trench northeast of New Zealand. The unmanned vehicle was working as part of a mission to explore the ocean's hadal region from 6,000 to nearly 11,000 meters deep. Scientists say a portion of it likely imploded under pressure as great as 16,000 pounds per square inch."

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  1. I'm not buying you another one by CuteSteveJobs · · Score: 3, Funny

    Where do you last remember seeing it?

    1. Re:I'm not buying you another one by camperdave · · Score: 3

      They should tie a string or some kind of high tech fiber made of glass or something onto it so they know where it is. Never lost my mittens after my mom strung them together with yarn.

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    2. Re:I'm not buying you another one by JustOK · · Score: 2

      Try IN the fridge. My remote always ends up in there.

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  2. One stone, two birds by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Funny

    They can look for the Deep Sea Vehicle and flight MH370 at the same time in that area. Very economical.

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    1. Re:One stone, two birds by wagnerrp · · Score: 2

      Wrong side of that little island down there called Australia...

  3. Maybe it defected... by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 2

    Maybe it defected. Is the protocol officer still alive?

  4. Re:You Sank My Battleship! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2

    I've read the comments on three stories this morning. Anything remotely scientific is full of nothing but lame joke comments. The one about the sun is full of "my hot sister" comments. It's pathetic.

    Agreed. Let's talk about planets in the solar system instead. The 7th from the Sun seems like an interesting one, don't you think?

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  5. Tethered? by Sporkinum · · Score: 2

    The article said it had an optical fiber tether. Nothing on how strong the tether was, but I am assuming it was like breaking a fishing line, so no way to retrieve a portion of the device. They did say that they found pieces floating on surface though.

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  6. It's no lost by UnknowingFool · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's just pining for the trenches.

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  7. Re:How about a string? by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

    Well, since the machine weighs no more under water, when filled with water, than the empty sub does when lifted onto and off of the ship, I'd say the scenario of the sub somehow dragging the mother ship to the bottom in the event that it floods is pretty far fetched.

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  8. Re:How about a string? by n1ywb · · Score: 2

    A typical oceanographic trawl winch will part 9/16" steel rope like it was nothing, which requires a force of about 27,000 lbs, and the ship doesn't even notice.

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  9. Ob. Slightly Scientific Comment... by ThatsDrDangerToYou · · Score: 4, Informative

    Years ago (not saying how many!) I worked with a university program specializing in autonomous underwater vehicles. Their designs made the submersibles nominally buoyant so that when they lost power they would eventually surface. For deep sea applications I'm sure it's more difficult.. If it were crushed, then I imagine all bets are off.

    1. Re:Ob. Slightly Scientific Comment... by Solandri · · Score: 3, Informative

      These vehicles typically use glass spheres (containing air) for buoyancy. We also experimented with a ceramic "foam" - basically millions of tiny hollow glass beads glued together and molded to fit into unused portions of the vehicle. They're more reliable, but don't provide as much floatation for a given volume. Any equipment and electronics you have on board has to go inside the larger glass spheres, so you always have some of those aboard.

      The founder of Benthos gave us a lecture on the tech. When one of them implodes, the energy released is the ambient pressure at depth times the volume. This is why you can't simulate an implosion in a tank - the moment the implosion begins, the pressure drops, and the energy release stops But at depth, the water simply fills in any lost volume with more water at the same pressure, and the energy release continues until the entire volume of air is crushed. The smaller sphere in the link (13 inch or 33 cm diameter) has an air volume of about 15 liters. At 9000 meters, the pressure is 90.57 MPa. So its implosion releases 1.36 MJ - about as much energy as 2/3rds of a stick of dynamite. The glass spheres which implode basically revert back to sand. You can imagine how much more energetic it is if something as large as a submarine implodes.

  10. I'll find it, but it ain't goin' to be cheap by Lucas123 · · Score: 2

    Bad fish. Not like going down the pond chasin' bluegills and tommycods. This shark, swallow you whole. Little shakin', little tenderizin', an' down you go... If you want to get your deep sea vehicle back, then ante up. I don't want no volunteers, I don't want no mates, there's just too many captains on this island. $10,000 for me by myself. For that you get the head, the tail, the whole damn thing.