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Interviews: Ask Travis Kalanick About Startups and Uber
samzenpus (5) writes "Travis Kalanick founded Scour, where he had the distinction of being sued for $250 billion by more than 30 media companies, and peer-to-peer file-sharing company Red Swoosh, but he is probably best known for co-founding transportation network company Uber. Seeking to be 'Everyone's Private Driver', Uber operates in a number of cities world-wide but has met with some regulation issues, and controversy. Travis has agreed to take a break from arranging rides and answer your questions. Normal Slashdot interview rules apply."
I can only assume delivering packages is the next step. Where do you go from there? Will Uber one day have an 'API for motion' where users can move anything, from anywhere to anywhere, specifying priority in exchange for cost? What about an API for quantum teleportation?
As far as I can tell, "disruption" means "ignore laws and regulations". So, how do you know which laws and regulations are ok to ignore?
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
It seems like most of the new and interesting things being attempted on the net these days are stopped by legislation or lawsuits from vested interests, not by any technical problem. This has bit you twice in two VASTLY different businesses. What is you opinion on this, and what can we do about it?
I talk with almost every driver I ride with and ask them how Uber works for them. Some are clearly filtering, others quite honest and forthright. In general a lot of them seem to be reasonably pleased.
The near-universal complaint is the star rating system. For those who don't know: Uber requires drivers maintain a FOUR AND A HALF STAR RATING or they're "fired."
One driver described a guy who he picked up, he was cheerful and polite, the guy barked out the address, glowered in the back seat with his hoodie up, didn't say a word, got out, and gave the driver a 1 star rating.
Other drivers complained that many of their fares are drunk out of their minds and give them ratings that are, at best, a mistake. People can't dial a telephone when they're drunk, but uber wants them to give a subjective rating? Can't you imagine the drunk chick who's all "WEEEEELELLLLL I THOUGHT HE HAAAAAAD A FUNNNNNNAAAY NOSE. TWO STARS FOR YOU!"
Most of the drivers said that the star system just simply wasn't understood by passengers - or that passengers had a star-to-happiness scale the drivers thought was reasonable, but Uber's scaling was absurd; they don't fault the passengers at all. I've said to each driver that "One star means you did something horrible, or I felt unsafe, or the car was filthy, etc. Two stars means something was off. Three stars to me meant a fine ride, no complaints. Four stars meant something was above the norm/my expectations. Five stars meant singing angels descended."
Each nodded and said, basically: exactly, totally reasonable...but Uber expects that even if the ride was nothing special, you're giving drivers 4-5 stars.
I'm sure you've got some beautiful excuse for how this is just the way you're dealing with having so many people who want to drive for Uber. But really, with a ranking system none of the customers understand how you use, you might as well just be employing Russian Roulette.
Oh, and by the way: I'm fed up with the fact that I can't leave feedback/a complaint for drivers I have to cancel a ride with because a driver was dicking around for 10 minutes (I call these guys the Uber Couch Drivers - they're sitting on the couch withthe app open...get up, brush their teeth, make a sandwich, kiss the wife goodbye, take the dog for a walk, then get in the car, adjust their hair, punch in my address into the GPS, then make their way over). Fed up with the fact that there's no way to reach a person at Uber if there's a problem, like accidentally leaving something in the car, or having an immediate safety concern about a vehicle or driver. I'm fed up with the form replies to complaints via the app (I don't want $5, or even $10 off my next ride. I want to you to fix the problem I complained about), and I'm fed up with your marketing staff thinking they're just the Bee's Knees. Three times I've tried to get Uber to do a promo for an event that totally fits Uber's potential customer base, and each time, the best that you could offer was your standard $10 off a ride, only for new signups. Which as an event organizer, made me take a big, epic Polite Chuckle and delete the email. You might as well employ robots as your marketing staff, because they've got about as much freedom or creativity as one.
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So the question: how can Uber continue to grow while maintaining the quality of their driver pool, specifically drivers that are fun and engaging?
Perhaps they could charge a small premium for conversationally engaging drivers. They could even have a web interface where you could select the topics you enjoy discussing (sports, politics, current events, art, etc.) to help match you to the appropriate driver. Maybe you could even drill down to the favorite team or political persuasion of the driver, to avoid heated arguments. Another alternative, is that you could learn to speak Armenian.
How do you respond to allegations that Uber has engaged in price-fixing for profit and anti-competitive tactics for market share? Examples: Uber forced driver shortage to boost surge pricing, Uber staff making bogus reservations at competitor's service. Is Uber just a big bully? Are you?
> The near-universal complaint is the star rating system. For those who don't know: Uber requires drivers maintain a FOUR AND A HALF STAR RATING or they're "fired."
That's not unique to Uber, that's pretty much for any service industry based job.
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> Do you intent to ever actually obey the local laws with your taxi services or just keep trying to find loopholes to hide in?
Uber requires a commercial license for Uber Black and above.
Doesn't matter - in some states, you must have at least a chauffer's license if you use your vehicle commercially, period, no exceptions; for example, here's the requirement straight from MODOT's website:
You must obtain a Class E license if you receive pay for driving a motor vehicle that transports 14 passengers or less, or if you transport items as part of your job. This rule applies to workers such as messengers, taxi drivers, chauffeurs, shuttle bus drivers, pizza delivery drivers, and day-care-center employees, to name a few.
Thus, it's a valid question to a real problem with the service.
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Mr. Kalanick, thanks for taking the time!
My question: Given that the concept of "disrupting" a current revenue stream is currently an influential contextualization for startup companies today, including Uber, what industries/companies are *out of bounds* for disruption?
Is any human enterprise fair game for Uber's concept of "disruption"?
For example, would Uber consider a tech solution that allowed a construction company to save million$ by staffing their entire workforce with legal part-time migrant workers, effectively ending the job for all labor employees except migrant workers...is that disruptive?
Is anything out of bounds when "disrupting" an economic system?
Thank you Dave Raggett
So what factors were and weren't considered in your decision to ignore existing regulations in many of the cities you operated in? Did you assume local governments would change laws retroactively, or would not attempt to enforce? Or did you have legal counsel advise you that your operations did not fall into the regulated category (which Uber now seems to admit it does)?
Basically, what was the process?
I love this rationalization---
"If you pay for premium service, you can expect a higher degree of safety. If you purchase standard service, it's a roll of the dice."
If Uber isn't requiring proper licensing and insurance from these service providers, but is referring people to use them, Uber will be held liable for insurance claims.
The lawsuit won't come from the guy's family who got paralyzed after an Uber driver ran over him on his bike. The paralyzed guy's health insurance company will sue Uber because they don't want to pay for quadraplegic care for the rest of his life.
Guess who has the tougher set of lawyers...
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