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Mysterious Disease May Be Carried by the Wind

bmahersciwriter (2955569) writes "Kawasaki disease is a mysterious condition that results in alarming rashes, inflammation and sometimes early death. It sickens 12,000 children a year in Japan and is suspected to arrive there and elsewhere by the wind. Now, researchers have narrowed the source to croplands in northern China and offered some possible explanations as to its cause."

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  1. Kawasaki disease by nitehawk214 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Travels by motorcycle.

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    1. Re:Kawasaki disease by Spy+Handler · · Score: 1

      I got the disease from playing a piano, you insensitive clod!

    2. Re:Kawasaki disease by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      You should have bought a Yamaha

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    3. Re:Kawasaki disease by sribe · · Score: 1

      Travels by motorcycle.

      Abscess makes the fart go "Honda"! (Trust me, you don't want to hear the 5 minutes of rambling which leads to that punchline...)

    4. Re:Kawasaki disease by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Trust me, we have. In my instance, it was delivered by an Australian businessman in the middle of a training class. I was his tech support when he ran the class. I heard it every single time. That plus the joke which ends, "The Czech's in the male," will be fused into my consciousness until my dying day.

    5. Re:Kawasaki disease by sribe · · Score: 1

      The Czech's in the male

      I'm a frayed knot!

    6. Re:Kawasaki disease by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Anyone reading this is secretly boring.

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  2. Stay inside by jonyen · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Come now, young lad, stay out of the wind or you'll catch Kawasaki disease."

    "Aw...but I wanted to go fly my kite today!"

    1. Re:Stay inside by omnichad · · Score: 1

      The word kite (0x6765 0x3066 - thanks, Slashdot) is Japanese for come now. Still don't get it as a joke.

  3. Traced? Perhaps. by St.Creed · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The closing comment was that, since the supposed origin would be frozen solid at the time the disease was supposed to originate there, the real origin of the disease is still as unknown as always. But they're now looking at bacterial toxin as the main culprit. Nice...

    I bet you could make a nice disastermovie about this, where it turns out that the GMO crops in India are the real culprits. Then, when they are sprayed with new insecticide, they combine with a new bacterium that integrates the GMO resistance genes, and spread a superplague that turns everyone into a Triffid.

    Weehee, I'm calling my agent :)

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    1. Re:Traced? Perhaps. by geekoid · · Score: 1

      Submit it here:
      http://www.theasylum.cc/

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    2. Re:Traced? Perhaps. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It would not be the first time
      Global anti-biotic resistant bacteria are emerging, primarily due to over (or mis) use of antibiotics
      Generations of Taiwanese were born with discolored teeth because the government felt that it was better to give all pregnant women tetracycline ...
      ymmv

    3. Re:Traced? Perhaps. by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      > But they're now looking at bacterial toxin as the main culprit.

      Well toxin anyway, without knowing what that toxin is and what is producing it, even to say it is bacterial is unknown. It could be a yeast, man made, or even a plant (pollen?). However, it does seem to be unlikely to come from an agricultural source with frozen ground.... maybe the ocean?

      That would be some mega-disaster fodder right there.... a worldwide bloom of toxic phytoplankton.....they gave us breath, now they have come to take it away. Trapped by the seas around japan, now global warming unleashes them on the world.

      I am thinking, some solution involving finding asteroids made of saltpeter and diverting them to the earths oceans to overfeed them with fertilizer and use up all the oceanic oxygen....saving humanity... and causing bumper crops the world over next year....some solace as the world struggles with the repercussions of killing the ocean to save the land.

      Or at least imply all that in the montages between the action shots and trite dialogue.

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    4. Re:Traced? Perhaps. by arglebargle_xiv · · Score: 1

      meh and even it it really was from the crops:

      Interesting to see that the supposed origin is northeastern China, which is where the Japanese special unit 731 carried out biological warfare experiments during WWII, polluting large areas with bioweapons products. Perhaps this is a case of the chickens coming home to roost?

    5. Re:Traced? Perhaps. by Calinous · · Score: 1

      Teeths appear no earlier than 6 months, and usually at about one year of age.

    6. Re:Traced? Perhaps. by omnichad · · Score: 1

      That would be a great movie. But it would never get made - except to be released by Echo Bridge Entertainment or The Asylum. And the science isn't broken enough for either of them to take it.

      Only one man will know what to do. The discredited genius scientist. He will formulate a plan but be unable to do anything or get anyone to listen until the 11th hour.

    7. Re:Traced? Perhaps. by Qzukk · · Score: 1

      Tooth development and calcification of baby teeth begins in uterus. The teeth don't magically appear at 6 months old.

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  4. malus aer by potpie · · Score: 1

    The Romans were onto something after all...

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  5. valley fever by rogoshen1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The article doesn't give a ton of detail, but it sounds a lot like the Valley Fever that occurs in the US South West. Which is Candida fungus if i remember correctly.

    1. Re:valley fever by rmdingler · · Score: 2
      Disease of the desert dwellers: active in Arizona and West Texas intermittently.

      If it's not the same disease, it's a relative.

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    2. Re:valley fever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Coccidioidomycosis
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccidioidomycosis

      not candida

    3. Re:valley fever by funwithBSD · · Score: 2

      Don't try to blame it on Candida, you hoser!

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    4. Re:valley fever by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Yes this was my first thought. My mother and uncle both caught it as children, and it seems to be endemic in the particular area they were living (rural Tulare country). They were diagnosed because this was just about the time it was first being diagnosed and tests for it became common post WWII.

      Key points are that it causes rashes, inflammation, sometimes death, and can be spread from inhalation of fungal spores in dust that is blown around (though more commonly from ticks). Sounds a lot like this mysterious disease in several ways.

    5. Re:valley fever by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      So Frank Zappa is to blame? "Oh My God!" does it make you "Barf Out!?"

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    6. Re:valley fever by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Hmm, I think that's what my mother had. I always thought it was tularemia, since both are called "valley fever" and the endemic areas overlap. But the occidioidomycosis symptoms match more closely.

    7. Re:valley fever by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      And an article linked in TFA also notes that coccidioidomycosis would have a similar vector - and that outbreaks tend to peak after dust storms and ... earthquakes.

      So now we've got yet another Zombie Level problem to worry about. It's just not fair.

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  6. Interesting by Dekonega · · Score: 2

    Hmm... that's pretty interesting. I hope they can find the source and I do hope that some kind of Chinese factory isn't the cause because that would make the relationship between the two countries worse. But on the otherhand the China's leaders have been pretty public about the environmental issues lately. If the cause is indeed in China (although the researchers in the article doubted this) there's a good chance that this might offer the kind of catalyst to make Japanese industries more invested in helping Chinese industry to be more environmental friendly and for example share the green technology.

  7. Good, Night. by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's Happening... the plants have finally recognized us for the enemy that we are.

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    1. Re:Good, Night. by geekoid · · Score: 2

      I welcome our new leader, El Cid.

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  8. Re:Uhh summary might as well include this. by sumdumass · · Score: 1

    What if this is a military weapon being tested and drifts into Japan on accident (or purpose depending on the depth of the testing).

    Of course biological weapons are outlawed so of course it would be secret. The kind of secrete that you would want to develop in an isolated frozen land- away from prying eyes.

  9. This won't help Chinese/Japanese relations... by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 1

    Just saying. The whole Nanking unpleasantness, now Kawasaki's disease.

    Can't we all get along?

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  10. Re:Uhh summary might as well include this. by funwithBSD · · Score: 3, Funny

    Does it cause sudden and unusual growth in lizards?

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  11. Re:Uhh summary might as well include this. by sumdumass · · Score: 1

    I dunno.. have you seen any large lizards lately?

  12. Yet another bogus theory, in my opinion by stevel · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My son contracted Kawasaki Disease in 1987 when he was 4. It was a terrifying experience as the doctors could not explain what was causing his symptoms, including a fever of 104. The poor kid underwent spinal taps and more. Eventually he was transferred to Boston Floating Hospital for Children where they concluded he had Kawasaki. There was no test for it - it's one of those "process of elimination" diagnoses and not all who have KD have all of the symptoms. At that time, there was no known cure but my son was enrolled in a random trial of gamma globulin infusion and, thankfully, the dosage he was assigned turned out to be the one that worked the best. He recovered and tests showed no lasting heart damage.

    At the time, there were many wild theories as to what caused it. One of the more prevalent notions was that it was triggered by carpet cleaning chemicals, since debunked. This paper smacks to me of "correlation does not equal causation". I'm especially dubious about the supposed geographic origins given that incidents, while clustered around metropolitan areas, were not confined to the west US coast (we live in New Hampshire.)

    Over the years I have read many articles and research papers about Kawasaki Disease. I don't think we're any closer to an explanation than we were in 1987.

    1. Re:Yet another bogus theory, in my opinion by manofherb · · Score: 3, Informative

      Father from Nebraska, my son came down with it in February of 2013 after 3-4 days of him just clinging to us with high fevers we finally took him to the emergency room where they did the cultures, the spinal tap, blood draws, etc everything when they finally determined what it was(my wife had googled it around the same time) they were able to start the IVIG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I... and by the next morning his fever had gone down and he started getting back to normal followed up by a few ultrasounds of his heart over the next couple months safe to say I'm glad we had insurance and we met our deductible quick that day afterwards i found out a co-worker's daughter had it a few years before, and my wife knows 2 other people whose children have had it

    2. Re:Yet another bogus theory, in my opinion by Miguelito · · Score: 2

      I was actually diagnosed with it when I was 12 (back in 1985), same type of "process of elimination" diagnoses. First they thought I had Chicken Pox, then they thought it might be something else, then they finally settled on KD. My own fever actually hit 105.4, and they had to give me an ice bath (you don't know the meaning of cold until you've had that happen).

      My fever was so high for so long that I burned from the inside out and my skin peeled over my entire body. I had no idea that could happen. Spent a few days in the hospital. It was unsettling that they'd bring in the student doctors from UCSD (I'm in San Diego) to examine me because they really had no clue yet, and were both looking for any ideas and anything that odd is a learning experience, I guess. About the only positive of the hospital stay was they actually let me avoid the IV hookup as long as I drank enough water to stay hydrated.

      My family had our carpet cleaned shortly before I got sick, so I've heard the related idea too. Though I didn't hear it as the chemicals but something to do with the dampness after cleaning. And I was the type of kid that loved to lay on the floor while watching TV and such. I've also read up on it now and then and notice when it's mentioned. They didn't really treat me with anything specific and just focused on fighting the symptoms with, initially Tylenol, then switching to aspirin later on.

      I'm still bummed all these years later that I missed 6th grade camp with all my friends because I was still just barely getting over being sick.

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    3. Re:Yet another bogus theory, in my opinion by Miguelito · · Score: 1

      They did ultrasounds on me for a few years (they still had no idea how long to check for) and I actually got to see some of the evolution of the machines. I remember seeing the first time they started measuring the blood flow with blue and red representing directions of the flow.

      It was such an unknown thing for so long, that I was turned down when I tried to donate blood at age 18. The nurse at the blood drive even called their central office to ask, but since no one knew what it was, they decided to err on the side of caution. Enough knowledge about it became more common over the years, I guess, as I was finally able to donate during a blood drive at work several years later.

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  13. Re:Early Death by ponos · · Score: 1

    Some diseases leave lasting morbidity (say, itching) but are not expected to modify life span. People suffering from fibromyalgia, for example, don't seem to live shorter lives, but do have many symptoms.

  14. Interesting theory by ponos · · Score: 1

    Just like some people develop (autoimmune) disease after exposure to gluten, we could expect other environmental agents to trigger Kawasaki. I'm curious to see if this is confirmed. Unfortunately, I don't see we could avoid exposure. Maybe hosts with genetic susceptibility should wear masks? Still, not easy...

  15. SMON by Eunuchswear · · Score: 1

    Sounds like another SMON to me.

    Japan is wierd.

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  16. Re:Uhh summary might as well include this. by maharvey · · Score: 1

    Yeah I just drained it a few minutes ago

  17. All the gear, all the time by Alioth · · Score: 1

    If you wear all the gear all the time, you're far likely to get rashes and death when you fall off your Kawasaki.