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Curiosity Rover May Have Brought Dozens of Microbes To Mars

bmahersciwriter (2955569) writes "Despite rigorous pre-flight cleaning, swabbing of the Curiosity Rover just prior to liftoff revealed some 377 strains of bacteria. 'In the lab, scientists exposed the microbes to desiccation, UV exposure, cold and pH extremes. Nearly 11% of the 377 strains survived more than one of these severe conditions. Thirty-one per cent of the resistant bacteria did not form tough, protective spore coats; the researchers suspect that they used other biochemical means of protection, such as metabolic changes.' While the risk of contaminating the red planet are unknown, knowing the types of strains that may have survived pre-flight cleaning may help rule out biological 'discoveries' if and when NASA carries out its plans to return a soil sample from Mars."

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  1. What goes around comes around by mendax · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It has been speculated that life here on Earth came from space. And there has been speculation that this life may have come from Mars thanks to asteroid impacts ejecting material with enough energy to reach escape velocity, some of this material reaching the Earth in its early primordial history. Well, if this is the case, we're returning the favor.

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    1. Re:What goes around comes around by Zocalo · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not just that, but by ignoring any bacteria that might have survived the trip from Earth to Mars aboard Curiosity (and presumably earlier probes all the way back to Viking) they could potentially be ruling out other strains of the same bacteria that may have made the trip by means such as impact ejecta. They are demonstrably up to the task in the lab, so potentially this could eliminate some of the most likely candidates for successful pan-spermia. If Mars is teaming with bacteria strain "foo" as a result of an earlier impact event, and "foo" just happens to have been detected on a Curiousity swab I hope there is also some plan to determine how likely it was that Curiousity was indeed responsible.

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    2. Re:What goes around comes around by mendax · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It just occurred to me that even if we were to find only bacteria whose ancestor's hitchhiked their way to Mars from Earth on one of our probes, that would be a remarkable find in itself. It would demonstrate that life could have existed on Mars at one time even if we don't find any native Martian bugs.

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    3. Re:What goes around comes around by flyneye · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Did someone bother to send some food for the bacteria? Enough to sustain bacteria long enough for them to evolve the ability to eat non-organic material?
      No need to worry, the sky is not falling and Mars is not going to be overrun with Earth critters.

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    4. Re:What goes around comes around by StripedCow · · Score: 5, Funny

      Did someone bother to send some food for the bacteria?

      They will be eagerly waiting for the first manned mission to Mars...

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    5. Re:What goes around comes around by buchner.johannes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It just occurred to me that even if we were to find only bacteria whose ancestor's hitchhiked their way to Mars from Earth on one of our probes, that would be a remarkable find in itself. It would demonstrate that life could have existed on Mars at one time even if we don't find any native Martian bugs.

      A mars rover is encapsulated during travel, so bacteria do not experience UV radiation and solar wind they would on other bodies (meteoroids).

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  2. Mars Has Lawyers by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    ...we're screwed

  3. Achievement by savuporo · · Score: 2

    First properly documented interplanetary flight sent by us, with biological specimens on board ! Pity we didnt measure the effect of zero-g or deep space radiation on these.

    Next up, amoebas and molluscs to mars ! With the current pace, maybe in next couple thousand years we'll send rhesus monkeys at some point.

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    1. Re:Achievement by Strider- · · Score: 4, Informative

      First properly documented interplanetary flight sent by us, with biological specimens on board ! Pity we didnt measure the effect of zero-g or deep space radiation on these.

      It's actually assumed that every probe that is sent will have some form of bacteria and so forth on it; life is just so pervasive on this planet that it's impossible to perfectly sterilize everything. Instead, the goal is to strongly sterilize what's critical and exposed to the environment, and reduce the probability of accidental contamination to an acceptable level (currently defined to be in the neighbourhood of 1 in 10,000 chance).

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    2. Re:Achievement by Brett+Buck · · Score: 4, Interesting

      To add to this, also sterilize it to practical limits given danger to the flight hardware. Many of the early Ranger lunar-impact missions had hardware failures on the way, eventually strongly suspected to have been caused by damage due to heat-sterilization:

      http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/n...

                Once they backed off on the degree of sterilization, the rate of random failures dropped dramatically.

  4. Experiment proposal by Dorianny · · Score: 2

    Why isn't anyone proposing a experiment where we send extremophile bacteria we believe can survive on mars and find out if in fact they can survive or perhaps even thrive under the harsh martian conditions. This would have huge implications for our search for extra terrestrial life, it would mean that its very likely mars already harbors life from earth that hitchhiked on a meteorite and even more importantly it would mean that life as we know it, needs goldilocks planet conditions only for so long as it takes to develop the genetic tool-set to deal with extreme environments, from where its than able to go on an colonize planets we currently believe are inhospitable to life as we know it.

    1. Re:Experiment proposal by Captain+Hook · · Score: 2

      If we introduce life it becomes much harder to say any life we find in the future isn't just contamination we brought with us.

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    2. Re:Experiment proposal by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

      If we introduce life it becomes much harder to say any life we find in the future isn't just contamination we brought with us.

      If it's shooting laser guns at us, chances are it was already there.

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    3. Re:Experiment proposal by Captain+Hook · · Score: 3, Informative

      ???

      Because it has a lot of implications about how life gets started on a planet which is an important line of investigation for science, isn't that obvious?

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    4. Re:Experiment proposal by physicsphairy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's easy enough to simulate martian conditions here on earth, which is a more controlled and far cheaper means of experiment. It was found that certain lichen can do quite well, although note that this was on the assumption that water would be available.

      It would probably be best not to introduce earth microbes before a full terraforming plan is developed. The population might explode, consume all the available micronutrients, and then die off. Or it might become a pest, inhibiting the release of other, more useful microorganisms later on. And it might obscure any extant martian microorganisms or micoorganism fossils when those could provide a far better template than earth-based extremophiles. We'll want something robust and sustainable, a planned ecosystem genetically engineered to produce all the right byproducts and which changes in concert with the alterations to atmosphere, global temperature, and soil composition without any unintended extinction events.

  5. Oh great ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Not even living there yet but we already shat everywhere on the carpet !

  6. Policy for Planetary Protection by Strider- · · Score: 5, Informative

    JPL actually has a highly detailed document on "Policy for Planetary Protection" that details the standards to which a probe must be sanitized to before being sent on its mission. The level of cleanliness depends on the intended mission and target; orbiters have a lesser standard than landers, for example. The policy also takes into account different parts of the spacecraft; the inside of the box containing the CPU and so forth isn't cleaned to as high of a standard as the wheels, experiments and so forth that are directly exposed to the environment. In the case of the Galileo probe, it was deliberately crashed into Jupiter at the end of mission in order to ensure it would never impact Europa, as it had not been cleaned to that high of a standard. Cassini will face a parallel fate, of crashing into Saturn to prevent a collision with Enceladus and/or Titan.

    The key part here is that when you are looking for life (or might be looking for life in the near future) you don't want to discover that the life is found is something that you brought from earth yourself, or was brought by another space probe.

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    1. Re:Policy for Planetary Protection by Strider- · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The policy is under the auspices of the Outer Space Treaty, which has been ratified by both China and India (along with the United States). Given that the Scientists and Engineers who tend to be involved in these projects are generally rational people (even if they're doing a politician's bidding), I'd say that the chance of things being done reasonably correctly are good.

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    2. Re:Policy for Planetary Protection by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      Do the staff refer to this policy as "The Prime Directive" informally?

  7. And thus, terraforming has begun by captainpanic · · Score: 2

    Terraforming has begun. With some luck, there were one or two microbes that can do photosynthesis. Plenty of CO2 on Mars.
    Yes, it will take a really long time, but we had to start at some point, right? Good job, NASA.

    1. Re:And thus, terraforming has begun by Sockatume · · Score: 2

      You're forgetting that Mars has 0.6% the surface pressure of Earth, which is actually very little CO2 at all. Even Total Recall had the sense to show the Martian terraforming equipment cracking a reservour of water ice to produce the oxygen it would need.

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  8. The stuff of sci-fi. by Balinares · · Score: 2

    Turns out we are the Great Ancients from a million years ago that came from the cosmos to seed life. Whatever species ends up evolving there will dig into their past with wonder and trepidation to discover who we were. And then they'll find out about Honey Boo Boo. Ah, to be a fly on the wall... :)

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    1. Re:The stuff of sci-fi. by captainpanic · · Score: 2

      If these microbes ever evolve to something as intelligent as us humans, their archaeologists will have quite some explaining to do when they dig up the Curiosity rover.

    2. Re:The stuff of sci-fi. by geekmux · · Score: 3, Interesting

      If these microbes ever evolve to something as intelligent as us humans, their archaeologists will have quite some explaining to do when they dig up the Curiosity rover.

      Yes, I seem to recall a similar race standing about staring at these insanely accurate pyramid-shaped structures.

      You have a pretty extreme example by comparison there, too.

      We can't explain how rocks got stacked so precisely thousands of years later.

      Them finding Curiosity would be equal to us finding a 10,000-year old Tesla Roadster sitting in a monastery garage right next to the cold fusion fridge.

    3. Re:The stuff of sci-fi. by Sique · · Score: 2

      We actually can explain how rocks got stacket so precisely. Polishing a plane surface is a tedious act, yes. But you don't need any fancy equipment to do it, just much time at hand.

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  9. Great by gaiageek · · Score: 2

    So if humans ever do populate Mars, they'll face strains of bacteria which even NASA can't kill. Wouldn't this make an argument for not going to such extremes to try to rid such rovers of any and all bacteria?

  10. The Soviets did not sterilize their landers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There were some (only slightly) successful Soviet Mars landers. They were not sterilized at all.

  11. Re:The folly of humans by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    What's he going to do, turn his back on his best customers?

  12. Perchlorates will take care of them by Squidlips · · Score: 2

    It is extremely unlikely that any bugs that made the passage from Earth to Mars on the rover will survive on the surface of Mars and propagate. The perchlorates in the soil are a super oxidizer that will gobble them up. The surface of Mars may be more hostile to life than space.