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The World's Worst Planes: Aircraft Designs That Failed

dryriver (1010635) writes in with an interesting look at some aircraft that should have stayed on the ground. "It's more than 110 years since mankind first took to the air in a powered aircraft. During that time, certain designs have become lauded for their far-sighted strengths – the Supermarine Spitfire; Douglas DC-3 Dakota; or the Anglo-French Concorde supersonic airliner, to name a few. But then there are planes like the Christmas Bullet. Designed by Dr William Whitney Christmas, who was described by one aviation historian as the 'greatest charlatan to ever see his name associated with an airplane', this 'revolutionary' prototype biplane fighter had no struts supporting the wings; instead, they were supposed to flap like a bird's. Both prototypes were destroyed during their first flights – basically, because Christmas's 'breakthrough' design was so incapable of flight that the wings would twist off the airframe at the first opportunity. Just as many of the world's most enduring designs share certain characteristics, the history of aviation is littered with disappointing designs."

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  1. Does not matter by sabri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Successful people are those who fail and don't give up. The same is true for aeronautical design. If you don't fail a couple of times, you won't win either.

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    1. Re:Does not matter by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One of my FAVE failures:
      McDonnell XF-85 Goblin

      What WERE they thinking?

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    2. Re:Does not matter by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One of my FAVE failures: McDonnell XF-85 Goblin

      What WERE they thinking?

      Does the Antonov A-40 count?

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    3. Re:Does not matter by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One of my FAVE failures:
      McDonnell XF-85 Goblin

      What WERE they thinking?

      They were thinking that many bombers were getting shot down after their shorter-range fighter escorts had to peel off and head home. It wasn't clear at the time that mid-air refueling could work.

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    4. Re:Does not matter by arth1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I see your Goblin, and raise you a De Lackner HZ-1 Aerocycle.

      The operator is standing on an open hub platform on top of a helicopter rotor. What could possibly go wrong?

    5. Re:Does not matter by Algae_94 · · Score: 2

      Because budget and schedule aren't really the be all and end all of planes. I don't see how you can put the F-35 Lightening II in the top 10 worst planes ever (Over 110 years of planes).

    6. Re:Does not matter by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, tell that to Hitler!

      Oh My Godwin!

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    7. Re:Does not matter by Kittenman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Successful people are those who fail and don't give up.

      Nonsense. This sounds like one of those take-aways from a life coach seminar. Successful people are those with good ideas, don't give up, are lucky, are in the right place at the right time, and ... and... and... But the good idea thing is a starting requirement. A successful idea is rarely a bad one.

      Cue people responding with bad, successful ideas. (Seriously, I'm interested).

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    8. Re:Does not matter by camperdave · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It makes a lot of sense. They had experience with docking aircraft. It used to be done with dirigibles in WWI.

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    9. Re:Does not matter by Culture20 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Cue people responding with bad, successful ideas. (Seriously, I'm interested).

      Corn Flakes. They were designed to induce chastity. Terrible implementation, but wildly successful product.

    10. Re:Does not matter by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      Only because the cold war ended. Procurement costs were more like $1 billion. If they had purchased the original complement of over 100, I expect that would have gone down. Still very expensive, but remember that it would have required the Soviets to spend a fortune upgrading their air defense.

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    11. Re:Does not matter by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Funny

      Intended to be operated by inexperienced pilots with a minimum of 20 minutes of instruction

      Is that a typo? Is it supposed to say "life expectancy"?

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    12. Re:Does not matter by balaband · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Already mentioned Komet probably tops the list. Although revolutionary design, and only rocket-powered plane ever built it had some serious issues - both fuel and oxidizer where really toxic and highly flammable, so slightest problem with landing could be fatal (and when you look at the construction I can imagine it was anything but easy to land).

      Also, (these will be a definite karma burners) to two of the probably most beautiful airplanes that ever flew, but failed to show their promise:

      Valkyrie , 6-engined supersonic bomber, 2 prototypes built (which remained most expensive prototypes to this day), run on special boron fuel, and although the icbm lobby had much in its project cancellation, it failed to convince its worth.

      Tomcat, plane favored in the Top Gun, was expensive both in building, maintenance and operations, and although it has some combat record, never really showed itself on the battlefield (also, it was rumored that variable-geometry wings, due to its construction, were never perfectly aligned which presented problem in-flight)

      Just remembered: how come nobody mentioned this one?

    13. Re:Does not matter by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      because it's supposed to be worst airplanes. lighting II isn't that bad as an airplane.

      however, the article is just skimmy. it's missing some pretty bad designs and including some that are still flown and used for military operations today.....

      notably missing, from the top of my head, goblin is missing, some worst nazi designs are missing, ww1 designs that were just deathtraps are missing, it even includes the comet which was in fact used in operations and did what it was designed to do...

      a very very light article. but f35 lighting doesn't belong on the list. the raptor doesn't belong on the list either. however, the valkyrie xb70 maybe belongs on the list.

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    14. Re:Does not matter by Alioth · · Score: 2

      The Morris Marina. An epically terrible car that still sold in large numbers.

    15. Re:Does not matter by arth1 · · Score: 2

      That's awesome. The pilot steers by shifting his body weight.

      Yes, before he awesomely loose his bowels, and the platform becomes slippery.
      And then the shit hits the fan.

    16. Re:Does not matter by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

      Just remembered: how come nobody mentioned this one?

      Perhaps you meant this. Remember, preview is your friend!

    17. Re:Does not matter by pehrs · · Score: 2

      I see your Goblin, and raise you a De Lackner HZ-1 Aerocycle.

      The operator is standing on an open hub platform on top of a helicopter rotor. What could possibly go wrong?

      In the military we have a word for that kind of contraption. It's "Skeet".

    18. Re:Does not matter by TangoMargarine · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I didn't really see how they could put *half* the planes in that article under "worst ever."

      The Albacore was almost as good as its predecessor, implying that it was an entirely decent plane, just that the project itself not serving as a replacement was rather pointless.

      The He-162 had manufacturing defects and an insane pilot training program but would otherwise have been fine.

      They never even mentioned what was "wrong" with the Me-163. Granted, it was a crazy aircraft, but it more or less worked for the purposes they intended it for. It was vulnerable to "bouncing" on landing, but the same problem applied to the Me-262, which did quite well. Hell, the 163 was one of the *successful* insane plane ideas Germany had, and they had a LOT of them.

      According to Wikipedia, the Devastator, "ordered in 1934, it first flew in 1935 and entered service in 1937. At that point, it was the most advanced aircraft flying for the USN and possibly for any navy in the world. However, the fast pace of aircraft development quickly caught up with it, and by the time of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor the TBD was already outdated." So not a failure at all by design, or even its initial deployment, apparently.

      A lot of these fall under the "hindsight is 20-20" rule, too.

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  2. Stupid by c6gunner · · Score: 5, Informative

    They include the DeHaviland Comet - a fantastic aircraft which set the standard in the airliner industry for decades to come. It did suffer from a design flaw which caused several crashes, but those crashes helped us learn a lot more about metal fatigue and the structural integrity of aircraft, and lead directly to improved safety in later designs. It was also fixed as soon as it was identified. Suggesting that the Comet was one of "the worst planes" - or that it should have never have flown - is just plane ignorant.

    1. Re:Stupid by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Informative

      DH Comet? It also had a real problem with birdstrike...

      Having the engines in-line with wing-plane was aerodynamic, but limited turbine diametre while increasing risk in event of failures.

      But agreed. Beautiful and elegant plane - far advanced over Yank planes from Lockheed and Boeing. The oval-window variant was especially so. I flew on BOAC Comet 4's as a child. They don't make 'em like this now...

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    2. Re:Stupid by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      They include the DeHaviland Comet - a fantastic aircraft which set the standard in the airliner industry for decades to come. It did suffer from a design flaw which caused several crashes, but those crashes helped us learn a lot more about metal fatigue and the structural integrity of aircraft, and lead directly to improved safety in later designs. It was also fixed as soon as it was identified. Suggesting that the Comet was one of "the worst planes" - or that it should have never have flown - is just plane ignorant.

      In addition, they left out the Lockheed L-188 Electra which also had a series of early crashes due to a design flaw called whirl mode flutter which resulted in the wings diverging from the fuselage's flight path. Nonetheless, it soldiered on and a variant still flies today as the P-3 Orion.

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    3. Re:Stupid by LordLimecat · · Score: 3, Funny

      Weren't DC-10s flying for many thousands of years longer than that? I feel like I've heard something about that.

    4. Re:Stupid by GrahamCox · · Score: 2

      The real problem wasn't the shape of the windows (which were NOT rectangular, they had rounded corners), but the thinness of the skin combined with a stress point. The skin was thinner than typical because the jet engines of the day were not very powerful, so the weight had to be shaved down to the minimum that would work safely. Unfortunately they got that wrong. If it had been built with the same skin thickness as those pressurized Boeing/Convair/Douglas piston-engined aircraft, the windows would not have failed. But then the plane would have been too heavy to fly. By the time Boeing caught up 5 years later, jet engines were already much improved in power, making the weight saving unnecessary. Remember the Comet first flew in 1949 - that's very early, even pressurization wan't very mature, let alone jet power. Boeing's 367-80 which led to the 707 first flew in '54.

    5. Re:Stupid by antifoidulus · · Score: 2

      Um, the pun WAS intended, as the spelling of the word if it weren't would be "plain", not "plane".

    6. Re:Stupid by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Informative

      Turns out that isn't as much of an issue as you think - the Comet airframe became the base airframe for the Nimrod maritime patrol aircraft, which flew in regular service from the 1960s right up to 2011, without a single airframe loss due to engine placement.

    7. Re:Stupid by hackertourist · · Score: 2

      Large engine diameters only became available two decades later (high-bypass engines like the RB.211). DH used what was available at the time.

  3. Damn BBC by kooky45 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone like to repost the content for us poor UK residents who aren't allowed to see the BBC's own content!?

  4. Not so sure about some of these picks by the_humeister · · Score: 4, Informative

    So the MiG 23 wasn't as popular as the MiG 21. That doesn't really make it a failure. Their first two examples were definite failues ( Fairey Battle and Douglas TBD Devastator): easy to shoot down.

  5. Where's the Goblin by Spy+Handler · · Score: 3, Informative

    I went through the slideshow but didn't see my favorite, the XF-85 Goblin parasite fighter. At the time, jet fighters had very limited range and in-flight refueling hadn't been developed yet, so there was a great concern about how to protect long-range bombers from enemy jets when your own jet fighters can't escort the bombers very far, and long-range piston engine fighters (i.e. the P-51) would be outclassed by enemy jet fighters.

    So they designed this tiny jet fighter to be carried under the B-36, and if you saw enemy jets approaching, release the Goblin which would fight off the enemy and then return to the B-36 and dock with it via a trapeze. Good idea in theory, but two things killed it off: 1) You needed superhuman piloting skills to successfully land on the mothership... maybe Chuck Yeager could do it but most pilots couldn't, and 2) in-flight refueling became possible.

    I always thought it was pretty cool though, like an aircraft carrier in the sky.

    1. Re:Where's the Goblin by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 2

      Very real. The USS Macon and USS Acron were built as flying aircraft carriers, carrying 5 fighters. Not just carry them under the airship's belly, Last Crusade style, but inside the airship. Fascinating aircraft, something out of a steampunky SF story.

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  6. Pretty Lame Selection by awrc · · Score: 5, Insightful

    At least most of these actually got off of the ground and some really don't belong in a list of bad aircraft - the example of the Comet has already been raised, the MiG-23 wasn't a bad plane by any means - unforgiving of inexperienced pilots, but so was the F-104 and *that* one gets included in a lot of "best planes ever" lists. Total production of the MiG-23 family is over 5,000 - bad planes don't get built in that sort of numbers.

    Throw in planes that were pretty adequate in their time but verging on obsolete when they had their 15 minutes (the Devastator), those that weren't actually bad but had the misfortune of being the successor to something so successful it wouldn't go away (the Albacore). It's difficult to call the Me 163 a bad plane - it was a desperate measure that made it very dangerous, but it's a very significant type. The He 162? Another desperation measure, but one of the more trusted opinions on the merits of aircraft (Eric "Winkle' Brown) found it a downright joy to fly, although again it was (again) unforgiving of inexperienced pilots, which perhaps wasn't the best quality for something intended to be flown by pilots with minimal training.

    Besides, there are so many things that can ruin otherwise good designs - how many 50s US jets are considered jokes because the DoD decided they were to be powered by the Westinghouse J-40? Not bad planes, but a bad engine. Some planes that escaped from the J-40 and had alternate power plants suggested (F4D, for example) ended up being considered classics.

  7. Gee Bee by godel_56 · · Score: 3, Informative

    OK how about this one. From memory, it killed just about everyone who owned it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gee_Bee_Model_R

    1. Re:Gee Bee by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As touchy as the Gee Bee is (and it's a motherfucker to fly, even as an RC model) it's relatively sane compared to the original Lockheed widowmaker. Stubby little wings requiring fast touchdown velocity, plus a downward-firing ejection seat preconfigured to dig the pilot his own grave: the only surprise is that they didn't require a separate seat for the pilot's ballsack (which must have been enormous going by the odds of survival in these things)

  8. The Spruce Goose by riverat1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    I think Howard Hughes Spruce Goose could fit in this category. It only had one flight and never got out of ground effect.

  9. book was out in 1990 by Mspangler · · Score: 3, Informative

    http://www.amazon.com/Worlds-W...

    My favorite is the Blohm and Voss Bv-141. Symmetry is for weenies.

  10. Me163 Komet... what the? by NewtonsLaw · · Score: 2

    How dare they include the Me163 Komet in a list of "worst planes" -- it was a groundbreaking craft (in more ways than one -- get the pun?) which highlighted the innovation (and desperation) of the Germans near the end of WW2.

    Yes, the choice of fuel components made it horrendously dangerous and the limited flight-times did reduce its utility but it was undoubtedly *the* fasted aircraft of WW2.

  11. Shameless plug by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 2

    One of my favorite treeware magazines is Air & Space Magazine published by the Smithsonian. They have a frequent series of articles on the theme, "Some ideas will never fly." Definitely a much more creative and well reasoned critique of a number of airplane ideas that, well, will never fly.

    Several of the planes singled out by the BBC article really weren't all that bad when they were initially in service (Brewster Buffalo, Douglas TBD Devestator, Fairey Battle). They were just kept in service long after they should have been retired and their pilots and crews paid the price. That's not a fault of the airplane; it's a fault of the politicians who decided to spend the money to modenize elsewhere.

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  12. Re:The Concorde failed too by GrahamCox · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Concorde was most definitely NOT a failure. In scheduled service for 27 years? Almost 50,000 flights at supersonic speed? That's not a failure - plenty of "classic" aircraft have not flown anywhere near as long. Concorde's main problem was that the USA took against it out of spite, because they didn't like to be beaten in aerospace technology. (which is weird, because Britain and Europe certainly admired the contemporary achievements of Apollo, and the 747, etc). That meant that it wasn't the economic success it should have been, but it was and remains a technical triumph.

  13. Icarus by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

    The original fail

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  14. Wrong Tactics, Weapons by bkmoore · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The article calls a lot of sound aircraft designs failures because they were employed improperly (wrong tactics) or the weapons they were designed to carry weren't ready by the time the war started. An example, the TBD-1 losses at Midway were the result of attacking Japanese battle ships without fighter escorts and by the outdated torpedoes that couldn't be dropped at high speed without breaking up when hitting the water. The Grumman TBF-1 Avenger was "successful" because by the time it entered service, more modern torpedoes were available and military planners knew that torpedo bombers needed fighter escort.

    The parallel in Europe is in 1939, both the British and the Germans tried sending daylight bombers without fighter escort into battle. Every time, they suffered unacceptable losses. The point is in 1939 to 1940, aerial warfare was so new that most military planners did not know how to properly employ their air forces, or what the capabilities and limitations of their aircraft were. At the time, Bomber Generals saw fighter production as competition for resources, i.e. aircraft. The Bomber people at the time believed Stanley Baldwin's quote from 1932, "the bomber will always get through."

  15. WTF BBC by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

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  16. Reminds me by Solandri · · Score: 2

    In the 1980s, Discover Magazine (I think it was) ran an article on genetic algorithms. One of the researchers they interviewed was using them to help come up with new plane designs. The researcher talked about how the algorithms were leading them in design directions they had never considered before. The article included some sample pictures of algorithm-developed plane designs, including one where the wings had winglets at the end, which then turned into a smaller wing above the main wing. The researcher seemed rather excited about that one, saying it could allow the construction of larger aircraft when maximum wingspan is limited by runway width or gate spacing.

    I did a facepalm, and shot off a letter to the editor. "What your algorithm has 'discovered' is the biplane."

  17. Re:The Concorde failed too by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

    FFS you two, reading fail "certain designs have become lauded for their far-sighted strengths – the Supermarine Spitfire; Douglas DC-3 Dakota; or the Anglo-French Concorde supersonic airliner," Those are examples of good planes.

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