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GM Names and Fires Engineers Involved In Faulty Ignition Switch

An anonymous reader writes 'Thirteen people have died because of faulty ignition switches in General Motors vehicles. The company has recalled 2.6 million cars, paid a $35 million fine, and set up a fund to compensate the victims. Now, an internal investigation into the incident has shown that the company was aware of the problem since 2002. 15 employees have been fired over what CEO Mary Barra calls "misconduct and incompetence." The report singles out Ray DeGiorgio, an engineer who allegedly approved a part that did not meet specifications and misled coworkers who were investigating complaints. "He actually changed the ignition switch to solve the problem in later model years of the Cobalt, but failed to document it, told no one, and claimed to remember nothing about the change."

"There's no evidence anyone else knew the switch was out-of-spec at the time, the report says; neither did DeGiorgio tell anyone when issues with the part were brought to his attention multiple times. When one engineer specifically asked DeGiorgio in 2004 whether the switch met torque specifications, DeGiorgio didn't respond. Evidence the investigators gathered showed that he started two e-mails but never sent them. ... Instead, DeGiorgio was consumed by a problem in which cars with the switch were failing to start in cold weather, something the report says was "a personal embarrassment to DeGiorgio.'"'

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  1. No one will ever buy a GM product again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This may not be a conspiracy, but it is an indication of a systemic, cultural failure endemic to the company.

    1. Re: No one will ever buy a GM product again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know. Toyota had faulty firmware that killed people, and yet everyone is still flocking to buy their cheap cars.

    2. Re: No one will ever buy a GM product again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Hearing from someone that got disabled for the rest of their life because of a faulty Toyota vehicle, I tend to disagree. Toyota tried to cover up what happened repeatedly by claiming it was the mat, the brake pedal.. Anything but the real cause. Those who can no longer live the way they used to got $125 from Toyota as a sign of "good will". Yeah, sure, it wasn't firmwareâ¦

    3. Re: No one will ever buy a GM product again by TWX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why didn't these people turn off the ignition of the car?

      Two reasons that I've heard that make sense are first that it's difficult enough to try to control an out-of-control car with two hands, and second, that since many cars now don't have good old fashioned ignition keys, it may not be possible to turn off the car if the car won't cooperate.

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    4. Re: No one will ever buy a GM product again by alexo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Court systems cannot establish causes of engineering problems.

      Expert witnesses who get to audit the code can.

    5. Re: No one will ever buy a GM product again by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If it's not obvious to you that you can (and should) respond to unintentional acceleration by shoving the gearshift into neutral, you shouldn't be driving.

    6. Re: No one will ever buy a GM product again by ed1park · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I forgot to mention that the only true solution is a kill switch like they have on motorcycles that is not controlled by firmware. In fact in the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course I took, they teach you to only turn off the bike using the switch so that it becomes second nature should you ever end up in an emergency.

  2. Re:Culpability at the Top by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 5, Insightful

    While I've seen some engineers do bad things because they were afraid of management, I've never seen a situation in a company this size where the organization was good but one bad engineer was able to release something terrible with no oversight. This is almost by definition of what it means to be a good organization: you shoudl not place tens or hundreds of millions of dollars of responsibility onto your wage slave, no matter how senior he is (never mind that real physical injury may be involved).

    It's always, always been bad management, frequently that went straight to the top. But then with most American car dealers we already know that. I find it amusing that they blame the unions all the time, but my two "Japanese" cars, both manufactured in America, have been excellent and are still running flawlessly 9 years later, while my two "American" cars (made in Mexico) I was happy to be rid of at 5 years.

  3. So no managers were at fault? Just engineers? by Squidlips · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Of course.

  4. That guy is going to need a lawyer real fast by MetalliQaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm somewhat surprised that the company named names. I suppose the result of the investigation made it clear that his intention was only to cover his own ass, which must have tipped the scales.

    Now if only we could get names of lawbreakers out of government agencies. I know it will be a cold day in Hell before that happens, but it would be nice

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  5. Issues with the story by guruevi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a) There was no change management?
    b) A single engineer can replace a critical component without anyone ever needing to sign off?
    c) Not answering an e-mail does not make one culpable, it merely points to a time management problem or not enough time to respond
    d) Even when an e-mail did not get answered, nobody cared enough to follow up?

    These things point to serious managerial issues. Engineers can make mistakes, covering them up and pointing the finger is a managerial issue.

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  6. Re:Culpability at the Top by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Should the CEO be signing off on every single part that goes into every one of their vehicles?

    More than one person should be signing off. Certainly it shouldn't have even been possible to later change the design and sneak it into production without even changing the part number.