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California Regulators Tell Ride-Shares No Airport Runs
An anonymous reader writes in with news about ride-share crackdowns in California. California regulators are threatening to revoke permits for on-demand ride companies UberX, Lyft, Sidecar, Summon and Wingz unless they stop giving rides to and from airports within two weeks. The move could lead to the state shutting down the companies' operations. Flouting the airport rules also flouts regulations that the CPUC set up for the new generation of ride companies to operate in California. In a clear rebuttal to an argument often made by the ride companies, Peevey wrote: "These safety requirements should not hinder your creativity nor should they impede your innovation."
Why is it not safe for them to drive to the airports, but it's safe for them to drive elsewhere? Are they going to hit a plane or something?
Everybody knows that only your closest cronies will do the airport pickup. It's the sign of a true crony.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
who tell everyone what to do. problem solved.
to drive your friend to the airport without a permit.
area. There were three airports and four train systems (or was it four airports and three train systems?). None of the trains went to any of the airports. I always figured the taxi union lobbied hard when it was time to decided the train line terminations. I think it has improved a little since the early 90s, but probably not much.
"We have heard numerous complaints that (our) safety rules are being ignored,"
Yeah, the cabbies are complaining. I would guess non-cabbies love the service.
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is the revenue of competing services.
These rules are here to defend taxi companies at their most lucrative source of income. There is not a single reason else.
And frankly, airports are exactly where I would WANT a ride sharing service over the entrenched taxi industry. After dealign with flying, the last thing I want is to deal with a taxi driver not interested for a second where or how far I want to go - and in fact is forced by law to pick up my patronage here because before that law... they would reject my destination for a "better" fare. Let alone the other issues taxis have like the queues and half the time there isnt one availible for too long.
No, fuck em. If I can have a service that is waiting to pick me up, go where I want to go, more often than not in a clean and comfortable car, with a driver who (and I apologise for the next comment but you know this happens too often) understand what you are saying and is interested more in customer service.... I'll take it.
We do have a premium taxi service here that works more like Uber and in general it's a mile better than the regular taxi services. Unfortuantly it's too small to be truly able to handle capacity. You know, if taxis worked more like the premium serives I'd be less sympathic to Uber and Co, but they arent so.... fuck em. Bring the ride sharign services on.
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If I call my friend and ask him to give me a lift to the airport and I give him, say, $20 in exchange which is considerably more than what it would cost in gasoline (almost an order of magnitude more, in fact), is he breaking the law by accepting the transaction? Am I breaking the law by soliciting such assistance? If not, then why is it somehow different if the driver is not somebody personally known to me?
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I want to be able to call an Amazon quadcopter to carry me to my destination.
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Wow. Am I the only one who finds uncanny similarity between the NY taxi licensing and 17th-18th century European officer commissions? The fancy uniform seems to be the only thing missing!
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Yeah.... they can be pretty strict on those zones in front of the terminal. In a nutshell, you really can't actually wait for anybody there. You have to arrange with whoever you are picking up where you will meet them, and then you can stop there In those zones in front of the terminal you basically have to be either loading or unloading, and clearly in the process of picking up or dropping off someone, or else you can be ticketed. In my experience, cabs don't so much have an exemption to this as much as they have a designated area in front of the terminal where cabs are allowed to be which is generally quite clearly marked, and regular passenger pickup isn't supposed to occur there anyways.
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At the risk of being modded troll, what innovation? All of the tech that powers these sites was built by other people. The only thing these guys did is get enough capital to fend off lawsuits.
I guess what really bugs me about these ride share guys is the real reason they're so big: massive unemployment and 40 years of declining wages. People don't participate in ride share sites for fun. I know taxi and limo drivers. They're some of the most abused people in the world. They're 'independent contractors' only in so long as it involves not getting the benefits of being employees (unemployment insurance, heath care, etc).
Fix the broke ass economy and all this 'innovation' would go away tomorrow. Christ, $16 billion in ipo value build on the corpse of the American Middle Class.
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1. Paying someone to have sex with you: Prostitution. Illegal.
2. Paying someone to have sex with you while you run a camera: Production of pornography. Legal.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
(private insurance does not cover you if you're using your car for a business).
Yes it does. It's just rated differently. Where do you think for-hire cars get their insurance from? The private sector or Uncle Sam?
I had my policy rated for business when I was working for a cheap ass consulting firm that made us use our own cars. It raised my premium less than 20%, a comparative bargain when compared to the prospect of paying a six digit bodily injury judgment. For-hire rates are a bit higher than this, but not particularly onerous, unless you live somewhere (New York City) that already has insanely high automotive insurance premiums.
I want peace on earth and goodwill toward man.
We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.
BART now runs to SFO, and they're just finishing up an extension to Oakland, so that's good.
Caltrain doesn't connect directly to SFO, but it does stop at the Millbrae BART station which is one of the two stations from which the BART-SFO extension connects.
San Jose is still pretty disconnected from public transit except for some shuttle busses.
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I have heard many comments that maybe those rides are unsafe. Well, I challenge that as I once had a ride in a taxi where the driver admitted to being stoned. But not paying him probably was not the thing to do if you didn't want him to come back to settle the score.
But it seems as if all the talk about reducing red tape only applies to businesses and not individuals. Most businesses exist because of red tape to force you to use them. My kid's class parties can only be supplied by store made cakes and snacks. I sort of agree that you might not want to risk causing upset stomachs in kids, but it strikes me as a bit overboard. More kids get hurt via bully violence, but somehow that is not addressed.
The ride-share drivers may as well make hay while the sun shines as I suspect their 15 mins of fame is close to done. Once autonomous vehicles are approved for use (yes I expect the same lobbies to fight it) neither ride share drivers not cabbies will be required to provide safe transportation and all this crying over this and that issue will be moot. All one needs is a fleet of self driving cars taking the human factor out of the equation for good!
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I use Uber every time I fly out of SFO, and these shitheads want to stop it because Uber doesn't pay bribes the way the cabbies do. Fuck every last thing about this.
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>Once autonomous vehicles are approved for use
... and the reason is simple:
... the cab fare will be the same except there won't be a human receiving the wages.
Like how a Snickers bar costs $1.25 in a vending machine.
Not that there will be commonplace autonomous cars in the next 20 years, they will remain as common as the flying cars hypothesized in the 1960s
Q) Why won't there be autonomous cars?
A) Because even a car that can handle 99% of normal driving situations is incredibly dangerous in that other 1% scenario. And that 1% scenario --- power is out and stop lights don't work or ad-hoc road construction or a very destructive pothole or severe rain that blunts sensors --- those happen on a very regular basis.
The only autonomous cars will be the ones we already have --- they are called trains! Not that they are "smart", but because their driving conditions are extremely simplified --- yet they STILL have drivers!!!
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Oh, it does "make sense", sure. Unfortunately, it also removes the "clear bright line" between the right and the privilege. And in some particularly Illiberal jurisdictions, the Executive government has been abusing its power for decades. For example, in NYC you can only appeal a "moving violation" in a "traffic court" — where the presiding clerk is, actually, an Executive government's employee. Yes, he is working for the same entity as the policeman, who issued the ticket.
And the license-plate numbers are also quite offensive — they are an equivalent to mandatory carrying an identification on your person at all times. Worse — even in the most oppressive country, the ID can only be seen by police if they ask for it, whereas the license-plate is visible to all, all the time.
Whether it "makes sense" or not, it turns an essential right, which can only be taken away by the Judiciary (from particularly bad drivers, for example), into a privilege, which the Executive grants and withdraws on its whim. You "loose both and deserve neither" — plenty of people drive with a valid license, and quite a few drive without one today.
I don't think, the situation would be worsened much, if we switched to sentencing those convicted (by the jury of their peers) of particularly bad driving to certain number of years suspension of the right. We do that already, but it is done by the Executive branch without any oversight — and we all know, how abuse-prone such arrangements are.
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area. I think it has improved a little since the early 90s, but probably not much.
BART finally made it to SFO. the bart station there is one of the stops on the shuttle tram that connects the terminals with each other and the parking structure. it's pretty sweet that you don't need a cab to get to the city.
At OAK bart runs an "air bart" shuttle that directly goes between the coliseum station and the airport. it's seamless in that the shuttle accepts bart tickets as payment and the stations are nicely located.
SJC: you take a free bus (SCVTA to caltrain, 20 mins. I used to commute on this, from caltrain to an office park on the other side of the airport. No connection yet between SJC and east bay bart. BART is building into san jose right now, and should have a station in the city by 2018. Still though, I'm not sure why anybody would want to go to east bay.
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