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How Tim Cook Is Filling Steve Jobs's Shoes

The New York Times, in an article about Apple CEO Tim Cook, focuses in large part on the ways in which Cook is not Jobs. He's less volatile, for one thing, whether you think that means he's less passionate or just more circumspect. A small slice: Lower-level employees praise Mr. Cook’s approachability and intellect. But some say he is less hands-on in developing products than his predecessor. They point to the development of the so-called iWatch — the “smartwatch” that Apple observers are eagerly awaiting as the next world-beating gadget. Mr. Cook is less involved in the minutiae of product engineering for the watch, and has instead delegated those duties to members of his executive cabinet, including Mr. Ive, according to people involved in the project, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to press. Apple declined to comment on the watch project. ... Mr. Cook has also looked outside of Apple for experienced talent. He has hired executives from multiple industries, including Angela Ahrendts, the former head of Burberry, to oversee the physical and online stores, and Paul Deneve, the former Yves Saint Laurent chief executive, to take on special projects. He also hired Kevin Lynch, the former chief technology officer of Adobe, and Michael O’Reilly, former medical officer of the Masimo Corporation, which makes health monitoring devices. Not to mention the music men of Beats.

209 comments

  1. SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by lesincompetent · · Score: 0, Troll

    errrr... by not having pancreatic cancer?

    1. Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by BasilBrush · · Score: 0, Redundant

      It's symptomatic of the decline of standards of Slashdot that this comment has not been modded down.

    2. Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      +1 home alone

    3. Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      errrr... by not having pancreatic cancer?

      That gives him the opportunity for sure. As far as the means though, no doubt Tim could fill the shoes the same shovel he used to dig Steve up with? Or did Steve have a shoe fetish, like an Imelda Marcos of Cupertino, which might require Mr Cook to use heavy earthmoving equipment to fill all of Steve's shoes simultaneously.

      Hard to know for sure, and much much harder to care about yet another overpaid CEO of a nasty exploitative megacorp.

      The king is dead, and nobody cares. Not about him, and not about his clone.

    4. Re: SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're saying there is a 50/50 chance my son is gay? Well that settles it, no more Apple products or pink shirts for him and hopefully once he learns how to speak I'll know if it paid off or not.

    5. Re: SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by Wild_dog! · · Score: 1

      hahahaha. Wish I had funny mod points.
      Especially for the unemployed part. Seems oxy-moronic that most folks insist Apples products are overpriced and yet the unemployed magically are the ones using those. Something has got to give eh?

    6. Re: SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should also stop molesting him.

    7. Re: SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hahahaha. Wish I had funny mod points.
      Especially for the unemployed part. Seems oxy-moronic that most folks insist Apples products are overpriced and yet the unemployed magically are the ones using those. Something has got to give eh?

      Shit son, I want to live in your world. Seems like there are no stupid unemployed people there, making wrong decisions when they should be thinking about their future. Here, in what I call real world, I can see plenty of cases of poor families, with several kids, no money, and no job, having better phones, TV, etc than me.

    8. Re: SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Next time try harder to be funny.

    9. Re: SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by macs4all · · Score: 1

      They don't call it homOSeX without good reason. Studies show that nearly half of Apple users are homosexual, compared to less than 10% of the general population.

      Citation, please.

    10. Re: SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Aw, what's the matter bunny, none of the homos will even give you the time of day and you need to console yourself with your Windows phone?

      True fact, 85% of all posts as anonymous coward are sexually frustrated losers living in their mom's basement.

    11. Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Oh look, your message got modded down to -1 troll.

    12. Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by lesincompetent · · Score: 1

      It happens when you dare touch the memory of St. steve. Apple shills are known to be humorless cunts.

    13. Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      And trolls like yourself are sad people with no friends.

  2. So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    link?

  3. Left brain vs. right brain leadership by TheDarkener · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Jobs was a right-brain leader. Creativity and creative genius cannot be emulated or duplicated. People should stop thinking that someone can just come in and do the same things he did, think the way he thought. It's impossible. Find another, equally brilliant right-brain thinker and maybe you have a shot at a new era of Apple that is reminiscent of building things around sacred geometry, art and magic - but new and different on its own merits.

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    1. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      And that, ladies and gents, was an extract from the First Epistle of TheDarkener to be included in the forthcoming Testament of Jobs (Profit Be Upon Him): Building things around sacred geometry, art and magic.

    2. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by TheDarkener · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Hey AC, don't worry, I'm not an Apple fanboi to any extent. I think Jobs was an asshole in many respects, a profiteering, egotistical glutton that couldn't ever get enough power under his belt. I think that had a lot to do with why he got cancer (stress). I don't even own any iDevices. I think the app store is inherently evil in how they regulate apps (think VLC, anything with F/OSS code in it). I could go on.

      But you can't deny that Jobs *was* a creative genius. I bet you could count the number of people that could run such a huge corporation *and* stay true to the right-brain roots that built it on one hand.

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    3. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Did he actually create anything on his own, though? I don't think we can call him a "creative genius" just because he had the resources to hire people with actual talent and actual creativity. Maybe he could be given some credit for wrangling these people, but that's about it, I think.

    4. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Charliemopps · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Jobs was a right-brain leader. Creativity and creative genius cannot be emulated or duplicated. People should stop thinking that someone can just come in and do the same things he did, think the way he thought. It's impossible. Find another, equally brilliant right-brain thinker and maybe you have a shot at a new era of Apple that is reminiscent of building things around sacred geometry, art and magic - but new and different on its own merits.

      Lateralization of the brain is pseudoscience bullshit.
      http://www.plosone.org/article...

      Steve Jobs was not creative. At all. Name one thing he ever invented.

    5. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Culture20 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Steve Jobs was not creative. At all. Name one thing he ever invented.

      "Holding it wrong"

    6. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by schnell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Steve Jobs was not creative. At all. Name one thing he ever invented.

      Typical engineering mindset - "inventions" are not the only yardstick of creativity. Pablo Picasso never invented anything either, but I hope you're not going to argue that he wasn't creative.

      Jobs demonstrated a highly creative approach to business, acting intuitively and often flouting the rules of "what businesses should do." He transformed Pixar from a software company to an entertainment company. He change Apple from an also-ran PC manufacturer into a provider of an ecosystem of mobile and desktop devices with seamless software, entertainment and marketplace integration. He imagined what customers would want and took the gamble of building it, and had no fear of cannibalizing his existing products to do so. And, in the world of business, that is creativity.

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    7. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 0
      There is no "right/left brain" at all. This was debunked decades ago. Why on Earth do fuckwits like you insist on perpetuating this myth? It's more like there are hard brains (like Steve Jobs) and weak brains, the kind that keep repeating discredited ideas despite scientific evidence to the contrary.

      How do educated people even say things like "sacred geometry, art and magic"? WTF? Magic doesn't even exist. It's all sleight of hand by conmen. What does "sacred geometry" even mean? Please define it. How is it different from ordinary geometry? I'm genuinely curious to know.

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    8. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Suffering+Bastard · · Score: 1

      What the GP may have meant to say, or have said better, is that Jobs had an incredible form of intuition, seeming to know from a long distance what was going to work and what wasn't, even when that meant doing something totally different from what would have seemed normal or sensible. That can't be written off as coming just from experience. Who the hell knew 20 years ago that Apple could possibly end up where it's at today? Jobs had something inexplicable (call it 'genius' or 'vision' or whatever) that most corporate execs lack.

      As for creativity, I dunno, I think Jobs was pretty creative in his reformulation of Apple and its product line. Not that he was totally original in product ideas, and not to excuse his deplorable behavior as a human, but he certainly did "think outside the box." (I dare not say "think different")

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    9. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Name one thing he ever invented.

      Apple

    10. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by TheDarkener · · Score: 1

      Sacred geometry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
      Apples use of Golden Ratio: http://paulmmartinblog.wordpre...

      I wasn't actually aware that it wasn't proven regarding brain hemisphere + function. Thanks for pointing that out, though I think you could have been less accusatory and generally like a fuckwit, as you so elequently dubbed me. Why not just denominate it to how one can refer to "creative-centric" vs. "logic-centric" thinking. Which I guess you couldn't handle on your own without being a literal-nazi.

      I took the time to link those URLs for ya, since you probably didn't think of doing that for yourself, either.

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    11. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by BasilBrush · · Score: 0

      Why not just denominate it to how one can refer to "creative-centric" vs. "logic-centric" thinking.

      Perhaps one shouldn't. They are not opposing forces. Before the belief in such a dichotomy we had people like Leonardo da Vinci.

      It's common for people to be gifted in both regards. I know a guy who is both a rocket scientist (literally) and a composer.

    12. Re: Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Type44Q · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He had taste. That, combined with bring sociopathic, was the secret of his success.

    13. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Picasso is created Cubism w/arguable amounts of co-credit to Braque, and Wikipedia says he invented constructed sculpture and co-invented collage. You might want to research someone before you use them as an example.

    14. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      Jobs genius was knowing what you take away is is just as important as what you put in. The story of the Itunes CD burn team is a great example. Jobs would describe a specific FUNCTION (like burning a CD) and then have an elegant solution engineered that would cut away any unnecessary fluff.

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    15. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Sorry , you dont get to skate on an Ad Hominem no matter how badly your opponent present his argument.

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    16. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steve Jobs was not creative. At all. Name one thing he ever invented.

      "Holding it wrong"

      No, that was classic Jobs: Take something somebody else created and put his own label on it.

    17. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He imagined what customers would want

      "would want" is businessperson weaseltalk for "could be convinced to buy". His vision since returning to Apple was to be the bad guy in his 1984 commercial.

    18. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      Name me one thing you ever invented.

      The idea that you can make a company successful by not chasing short term monetary gain but by having long term (10+ years) goals and working continously towards achieving those goals.

    19. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think what you're saying is Bill Gates and Lee Iococa were creative geniuses due to their business savvy, let alone the creative geniuses of Mrs Field's cookies or the marketer of bottled water.

      That, or you have a predefined view in your head and are bending over backwards in order to keep it.

    20. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course you can se he wasn't a genius, woz is a genius...

      Jobs was good at pr...

    21. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      VLC wasn't withdrawn by Apple. Just fixing that for you.

    22. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by tlambert · · Score: 2

      Did he actually create anything on his own, though? I don't think we can call him a "creative genius" just because he had the resources to hire people with actual talent and actual creativity. Maybe he could be given some credit for wrangling these people, but that's about it, I think.

      He patented a lot of things, where he was personally named on the patent as one of the inventors. Most of these things were not technical from a software or electronic hardware perspective, but include things like the free standing glass stairs in the NY Apple Store. He also was an amazing arbiter of taste; Jony is a veritable fount of design, from which Steve would pick (usually) two to prototype, and later, one to go forward with to market. Getting from 10 things to two things to one thing is a creative process, and not easy to replicate. If you think it is, you probably own a brown Zune.

      He was also a minimalist. The iPhone came about because Steve was annoyed at cell phones that were good for everything *but* making phone calls; they had lost their way, and their purpose. And he set out to fix that. You can argue that it wasn't creative to decide to solve that particular problem, but that fact that no one else was solving it at the time, and he decided to aim the resources of Apple at the problem when others just ignored it, argues otherwise.

    23. Re: Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Polo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I used to think taste was kind of like fashion, but I've realized it's more.

      Specifically, a few years ago I listened to Ira Glass's short talk on storytelling and there's this short bit about taste that is just SO wise and SO insightful... (view all four parts)

      “Nobody tells this to people who are beginners, I wish someone told me. All of us who do creative work, we get into it because we have good taste. But there is this gap. For the first couple years you make stuff, it’s just not that good. It’s trying to be good, it has potential, but it’s not. But your taste, the thing that got you into the game, is still killer. And your taste is why your work disappoints you. A lot of people never get past this phase, they quit. Most people I know who do interesting, creative work went through years of this. We know our work doesn’t have this special thing that we want it to have. We all go through this. And if you are just starting out or you are still in this phase, you gotta know its normal and the most important thing you can do is do a lot of work. Put yourself on a deadline so that every week you will finish one story. It is only by going through a volume of work that you will close that gap, and your work will be as good as your ambitions. And I took longer to figure out how to do this than anyone I’ve ever met. It’s gonna take awhile. It’s normal to take awhile. You’ve just gotta fight your way through.”

      What I think Steve Jobs did was get an organization to do this, to make tasteful things. He was a great integrator. He pulled people together, he pushed through obstacles, he overcome a lot of mediocrity. Yeah, he was a jerk about a lot of things.

      It's like a law of nature, a law of aerodynamics, that anything that's written or anything that's created wants to be mediocre. The natural state of all writing is mediocrity. It's all tending toward mediocrity in the same way that all atoms are sort of dissipating out toward the expanse of the universe. Everything wants to be mediocre, so what it takes to make anything more than mediocre is such a fucking act of will.

    24. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jobs was a charlatan, a liar, a fraud, a deadbeat dad and an egotistical asshole.

    25. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That doesn't matter as long as he's not trying to claim credit for shit he didn't invent. You know, like Steve Jobs did.

    26. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BWAHAHAHAHAHAH Come on! really? really? and mod points?

      I stopped commenting on /. ages ago. I've had an account since 05 and stopped posting years ago. Why you ask? because assholes like this get mod points for STUPID ASS comments.

      Find another equally brilliant right-brained thinker and maybe we would have a shot at a new era of Apple which is reminiscent of building things around sacred geometry, art and magic. New and different on its own merits.

      Magic? WTF?

      (And yes I spell checked his ass because his writings are horrid)

    27. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Which is why Apple sucks. I want control over my computer, not the other way around.

    28. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Steve Jobs was not creative. At all. Name one thing he ever invented.

      The RDF?

    29. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's common for people to be gifted in both regards. I know a guy who is both a rocket scientist (literally) and a composer.

      So figuratively a composer, then?

    30. Re: Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That small, huh?

    31. Re: Left brain vs. right brain leadership by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

      To me it seemed that Steve Jobs, unlike Gates, approached products from a consumer's point of view. He was less willing to accept why things the way they were for technical reasons. Take for example, one small but useful feature of iTunes was that it synced your iPod when you plugged it in automatically. This one step sync was at this insistence of Jobs. To a geek it's a minor feature. To the average consumer, it was a major feature. It was one less step they had to do use this geeky MP3 player. When I got my first iPod after using a Diamond Rio, it made it so much more useful. At the same time, my brother got a Dell MP3 player. Two years later it was in a drawer somewhere because he found it too troublesome to keep music synced on it.

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    32. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by retchdog · · Score: 1

      you want more control over burning a cd? why? there are countless little micro-optimizations and hacks, do you want a few hundred pointless variables, or do you want to just click the "burn" button and be done with it? i know which one i wanted.

      i take it you don't remember having to manually remount your cd burner on linux for each burn. christ, that was idiotic, and there were even GUIs that made you jump through these hoops. taking every bullshit step and turning it into a button is the worst way to design an interface.

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    33. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

      Steve Jobs was not creative. At all. Name one thing he ever invented.

      Name me one thing you ever invented.

      A formula for calculating binder group colors in telecom plant records. It's only 1 line of code, but it's industry standard now. Probably the biggest effect I'll ever have on the world other than my son.

      And you?

    34. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by avandesande · · Score: 1

      I would agree with the OP- he didn't 'create' anything, just a different arrangement of paint strokes.

      "Good artists copy, great artists steal" ~Picasso

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    35. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by macs4all · · Score: 2

      I think the app store is inherently evil in how they regulate apps (think VLC, anything with F/OSS code in it)

      Ahem. Get your facts straight.

      One of the Developers of VLC decided to have a hissy fit and VOLUNTARILY REMOVED VLC from the App Store. Apple didn't "ban" VLC. VLC "banned" ITSELF.

      And F/OSS? Point to me where it says that App Store apps (whether iOS or OS X) cannot have F/OSS code in them? Hell, on the Apple website, the damned *OS*(es) have pages crowing about the number of F/OSS Projects that OS X (and iOS) incorporate (and to which Apple contributes and/or has initiated themselves).

      WTF is your problem, hater?

    36. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      A formula for calculating binder group colors in telecom plant records. It's only 1 line of code, but it's industry standard now. Probably the biggest effect I'll ever have on the world other than my son.

      Excellent. Well we can see that even Steve Jobs' slide to unlock patent beats that. Then there's another 316 patents to chose from.

      And you?

      Don't tend to call industry changing people with huge creative accomplishments, "uncreative". And therefore don't have to give away who I am in order to prove myself. :-)

    37. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      The GP's post was an ad-hominem against Steve Jobs. My point is implicit - it's not for less creative people to call more creative people "uncreative".

    38. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      ? You invented that?

      Or are you replying to the wrong post, and suggesting Steve Jobs did? He certainly did that, but he didn't invent it.

    39. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by david_thornley · · Score: 2

      The iPod. iTunes. The iPhone. The iPad.

      He didn't do the technical work, but they were all his vision. He knew how to create electronic products so much easier for the average person to use than their predecessors. He knew how to give them style.

      That is creativity.

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    40. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I want control over what format/mode it burns as or whether it does a verify or what speed it burns at or how many copies it will make or whether it should attempt an overburn or whether it ejects the disc when it finishes or whether it should shut my PC down after it's finished or any number of other things.

      My computer does what I tell it to do, that's the whole point. With an Apple computer, it's basically "fuck you, you'll do it our way".

    41. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      You are a fool. Non creatives sure as fuck can critique creatives. Its not a special club. who the hell do you think creatives create for?

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    42. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by spire3661 · · Score: 2

      Then dont buy Apple, its not for you. The VAST MAJORITY of USERS (you know, the people who we make computer s work for?) just want a disc they can slip in their car CD player and go. USER REQUESTS ARE WHAT COMPUTERS ARE FOR!

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    43. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Note the difference between critiquing a creation and critiquing a (creative) person or their process.

      Analogy: A non programmer can have a valid opinion on an app. But not on the programmer who coded it.

    44. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Well put.

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    45. Re:Left brain vs. right brain leadership by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cubism and constructed sculpture obviously derive from prior traditions, such as the tradition of using multiple perspectives in a single picture. They are not wholly new. As for collage, Wikipedia says nothing of the sort. Wikipedia says that Picasso and Braque both coined the *term*. Collage itself, as the article points out, dates back hundreds of years (if not thousands).

      It is almost impossible to develop something completely new, that isn't a problem anyway nor any kind of slur on the good name of Picasso or Jobs, and you should put the shovel down now that you're at the shit-filled bottom of this particular hole.

  4. Ugh! No actual Article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/technology/tim-cook-making-apple-his-own.html?_r=0 Here I've saved the pain in case you actually RTFA...

  5. where is the link? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    hey mods where is the link for this article? I know reading the article is an optional slashdot activity that only some members participate in, but on this occasion i wished to read the article and was unable. I could google and find it myself but that defeats half the purpose of coming to slashdot.org so now i guess i'll look at something else.

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  6. TFA by tvon · · Score: 1

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/15/technology/tim-cook-making-apple-his-own.html

  7. Don't forget! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple ditched Chiat/Day and is using an in-house advertising team.
    That doesn't seem to fit the mold the NY Times is trying to push.

    1. Re:Don't forget! by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      They haven't ditched Chiat/Day yet. They're simply pitting them against their in-house team for now and choosing the best from each.

  8. He's not filling Steve Jobs' shoes ... by perpenso · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How Tim Cook Is Filling Steve Jobs's Shoes

    Cook is not filling Steve Jobs' shoes. Steve Jobs' shoes are in a display case at Apple's museum. Cook is wearing his own shoes.

    Cook is not Jobs nor is he trying to be Jobs nor should he try to be Jobs. Jobs made lots of product design and development mistakes. His genius was in exploiting those projects where time and circumstances made them successful, in pretty much maximizing the potential of the products that turned out to be successful. In 2001 Jobs brought us both the iPod and the Flower Power iMac.

    Cook has to use his own judgement, things Jobs said years ago don't necessarily apply any more. Time and circumstances have changed. The iPad mini is a good example. When Jobs frowned upon a smaller iPad a smaller device meant a lower resolution screen. Once pixel densities improved and a smaller device could have the same resolution as the original full sized device the circumstanced changed such that Jobs' original judgement no longer applied.

    Jobs' good decisions have a time and a context. They are not necessarily universal truths. His shoes don't need to be worn.

    1. Re:He's not filling Steve Jobs' shoes ... by danomac · · Score: 1

      The iPad mini is a good example. When Jobs frowned upon a smaller iPad a smaller device meant a lower resolution screen. Once pixel densities improved and a smaller device could have the same resolution as the original full sized device the circumstanced changed such that Jobs' original judgement no longer applied.

      Really? I remember Jobs saying nobody wants a small tablet, period. I'd used a large one at work and decided it was too heavy to use, so when Google released their 7" tablet in July 2012, I bought one. It was pretty hard to get initially, they were selling quite fast in my area and as soon as stores got them in they sold. Then, in October 2012, Apple did a "me too!" and announced the iPad mini. I still think it was a reactionary move and I doubt the iPad mini would have surfaced at all if someone else hadn't released it first.

    2. Re:He's not filling Steve Jobs' shoes ... by Reverberant · · Score: 4, Insightful

      so when Google released their 7" tablet in July 2012, I bought one.

      Then, in October 2012, Apple did a "me too!" and announced the iPad mini. I still think it was a reactionary move and I doubt the iPad mini would have surfaced at all if someone else hadn't released it first.

      Wait, you think the iPad mini was approved, designed, engineered, mass manufactured and released in four months?

    3. Re:He's not filling Steve Jobs' shoes ... by LordLucless · · Score: 1

      Then, in October 2012, Apple did a "me too!" and announced the iPad mini

      Wait, you think the iPad mini was approved, designed, engineered, mass manufactured and released in four months?

      Emphasis added. Regardless of that, Apple could have started work on the iPad mini after Google announced (rather than released) their tablet, and it would have still been reactionary.

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    4. Re:He's not filling Steve Jobs' shoes ... by Torodung · · Score: 0

      Jobs made one good decision. His genius was in co-opting the music distribution business, when the traditional publishers had refused to budge on their outdated business models. He even served them a little DRM sandwich, knowing full well that the approach was doomed. Apple's entire success is based upon the well-established success of popular music, built by others, and the hidebound, half-witted way traditional music publishing approached it. The iPod was the gateway device. It lead directly to the iPhone's success, and through a superior iTunes performance, helped as a wedge to get people to buy Apple's overpriced computers. Without the iPod, iLife doesn't happen. Without its strength amongst actual musicians, and the knowledge that came from dealing with them, Apple's turnaround doesn't happen.

      As an analogy, he's Bill Gates and IBM. He provided a market solution for a huge market someone else built, when the traditional industries were too inflexible to read the obvious writing on the wall. Just like IBM, and the PC clone revolution. And he was the only one with the insight to pursue it.

      Was it genius? You decide. I think what he did was to beat out Microsoft, which actually believed in DRM solutions for content. They too, were affected by the music industry's stupid assumptions about the distribution of content in a digital age, and the ability to control it. Jobs realized DRM was doomed from the get-go.

      He also got lucky with the timing, as mp3 players went from 32MB affairs to 2GB+ devices. Without that leap, the iPod would have been doomed.

      Jobs knew music aficionados and producers (the real creative talent, not publishers) and acted upon that knowledge. He got lucky with the timing. That's about all he did. In my mind, everything else is fluff. Especially the bits about his brilliance in design. They're not very big shoes to fill.

    5. Re:He's not filling Steve Jobs' shoes ... by perpenso · · Score: 1

      Really? I remember Jobs saying nobody wants a small tablet, period.

      Because of resolution, tap target size, etc ... all issues that were resolved by the time the mini came out. Again, circumstances changed.

    6. Re:He's not filling Steve Jobs' shoes ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LIES! Apple invented the mini tablet....

    7. Re:He's not filling Steve Jobs' shoes ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You think the first Apple heard about the Google device was when they launched it?

    8. Re:He's not filling Steve Jobs' shoes ... by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Because of resolution, tap target size, etc ... all issues that were resolved by the time the mini came out. Again, circumstances changed.

      Not really, the tap target size IS smaller.

      It's just that Apple uses a LOT of touchscreen processing in order to get more accurate use of points.

      It's why I've found that the iOS keyboard is far more accurate at typing than the Android one, even though my Android device has a much larger screen (3.5" vs. 4.5"). In Android, hardware is responsible for reporting the touch points which is used verbatim by the OS. I'm fairly certain Apple gets a more advanced sort of data including pressure maps and uncertainty circles to help figure out where a user meant to tap.

      Which probably explains why Android NEEDs replacement keyboards - the touch mechanism is bad enough that typing really is hard. Which is good, because we get some great keyboards like Swype and Fleksy which are really handy and faster than tapping (though I personally never could get used to Swype).

      Either that or the default Android keyboard is so terrible that even larger tap targets don't help it.

      Just saying - Apple could very well make far better use of the touchscreen information available to make smaller tap targets usable.

    9. Re:He's not filling Steve Jobs' shoes ... by david_thornley · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you noticed, Jobs was fond of saying that "nobody needs X" until Apple figured out how to do X right. He was not the most open and truthful of men.

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  9. Apple Employees Newsletter? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do we care?

  10. Because you read/comment ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do we care?

    Because people like you will read and/or comment on the posting rather the ignore it and move on to something else.

    1. Re:Because you read/comment ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I guess the underlying question is where does this 'story' originate?

      Apple HQ? Tim's diary? Where?

      That's the extent to which I care - just enough to wonder why multiple layers of 'news' media are being utilized to help stroke someone's ego.

  11. Solid strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He has hired executives from multiple industries, including Angela Ahrendts, the former head of Burberry,

    If she can sell their hideous branded goods, she is surely a mistress of consumerism and should be applauded.

  12. poorly by slashmydots · · Score: 0

    That's how he's filling his shoes; poorly. The ipad 3 was heavier, shattered easier at a lower drop height, and got hotter. The ipad 3 mini was a lie. IOE 6, 7, and 8 were universally hated disasters. iTunes 11's new layout was a crime against software design. Also, as usual, everyone everywhere is suing them for everything they're doing. Apple is going down like the Titanic.

    1. Re:poorly by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      most people find those devices OK. your opinion is not meaningful when Apple shares and profits are climbing to the statosphere

    2. Re:poorly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, we know you hate Apple. Come back when you can get over your fanboy bullshit.

    3. Re:poorly by sribe · · Score: 1

      IOE 6, 7, and 8 were universally hated disasters.

      Bull. Fucking. Shit.

    4. Re:poorly by pushing-robot · · Score: 2

      IE 6, 7, and 8 were universally hated disasters.

      Fixed: typo

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    5. Re: poorly by Karlt1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's how he's filling his shoes; poorly. The ipad 3 was heavier, shattered easier at a lower drop height, and got hotter. The ipad 3 mini was a lie. IOE 6, 7, and 8 were universally hated disasters. iTunes 11's new layout was a crime against software design. Also, as usual, everyone everywhere is suing them for everything they're doing. Apple is going down like the Titanic.

      Let's see where to start?

      1. If iOS 7 was so bad, why was the adoption rate so high so fast?
      2. The iPad 3 did suck. All indications are that the A6 and the lightening connector just weren't ready in time. They bought out a new iPad six months later.
      3. ITunes has been a disaster since it started trying to manage iOS devices.
      4. Everyone is suing Apple because that's where the money is. Who isn't getting sued left and right these days?
      5. IOS 8 is a "disaster"? You mean the OS that isn't even shipping yet?
      6. The iPad Mini 3 a lie? Huh?

    6. Re: poorly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got to add my 2 cents:

      IOS 7 is better than the previous versions in my experience. I don't get the bitching. I've got an iPhone 4 and an iPad 2 (both free, I don't like Apple. But I repair their products.)

      I have never experienced any of the problems people seem to be bitching about. I'd say the worst thing is when the i's get locked into the infamous "Connect to iTunes" mode which I can only repair about 50% of the time.

    7. Re: poorly by dk20 · · Score: 0

      1. If iOS 7 was so bad, why was the adoption rate so high so fast?
      Forced updates and no way to go back to the previous version thanks to encrypted downloads?

    8. Re: poorly by BasilBrush · · Score: 1, Informative

      There are no such forced updates.

    9. Re: poorly by dk20 · · Score: 1

      I dont own a lot of Apple products so take this with a grain of salt...

      My OSX desktop does the same thing as windows, and tries to download updates nightly, as does my Apple-TV. I guess they are not "forced" as i can turn those options off, but the default was to have them ON.

      I notice you neglected to address the extent to which Apple makes it hard to "roll back" an update, instead focusing on the "forced update" angle?

    10. Re: poorly by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Sure, it'll download updates. And it'll notify you about them. But it won't install them without your permission.

      Neither with iOS do updates without your permission.

      I notice you neglected to address the extent to which Apple makes it hard to "roll back" an update, instead focusing on the "forced update" angle?

      That would be because you said one thing that was wrong, not two things that were wrong.

      But more to the point than the one you got right, the reasons for the extremely high adoption rate are:
      1) The updates are actually made available, and promptly, unlike Android.
      2) The users are all informed that they are available, and the installation made simple.
      3) All OS updates are free of charge.
      4) There's a buzz around new versions. Not just amongst enthusiasts and tech media, but in the mainstream media.

    11. Re: poorly by dk20 · · Score: 0

      Man, you work for Apple's PR department or what?

      1) The updates are actually made available, and promptly, unlike Android.
      What exactly does this mean? Android has updates as well. (FUD on your part)?

      2) The users are all informed that they are available, and the installation made simple.
      Yeah, because clicking on the "update" box in android is challenging?

      3) All OS updates are free of charge.
      Perhaps true now, but in the past apple charged a fee for its updates.

      4) There's a buzz around new versions. Not just amongst enthusiasts and tech media, but in the mainstream media.
      Some call it buzz, others call it hype.

      Apple TV doesn't just download them, it installs as well, unless Apple's website is incorrect in which case you can have them update it with the correct info.

      http://support.apple.com/kb/ht...
      Keep your Apple TV always up to date by automatically installing software updates when available.

    12. Re: poorly by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      What exactly does this mean? Android has updates as well. (FUD on your part)?

      Android updates for phones come a long time after Google releases, if at all. Few Android phones get more than one update. Apple updates are available to all compatible devices on the day of release.

      Perhaps true now, but in the past apple charged a fee for its updates.

      Apple never charged for iPhone updates. OSX used to be charged, but now they are not. And that's on of the reasons adoption is so high. The past is irrelevant.

      Apple TV doesn't just download them, it installs as well, unless Apple's website is incorrect in which case you can have them update it with the correct info.

      Quite possibly. Neither of us have Apple TV, and it's not what we were talking about. It's OK to do auto updates on that because there is are no third party app compatibility risks, whilst the most compatibility with the various services will always be with the latest OS version.

    13. Re: poorly by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Updating to iOS7 was the ONLY way to get the SSL/TLS bug fixed, so yeah, it was pretty much forced.

      I know that's the only reason that *I* updated.

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    14. Re: poorly by dk20 · · Score: 0

      Apple updates are available to all compatible devices on the day of release.
      So just make some devices incompatible right?

      Why doesn't IOS 7 work on an iPhone 3GS?
      https://discussions.apple.com/...

      When apple does it, it is fine because the hardware is "too old for the new OS" but when android does the same thing for similar reasons "Few Android phones get more then one update". There is a huge difference between Android and IOS. Apple makes both the hardware and software. It is not a function of "android" when hardware manufacturers don't release new updates for their devices, that is the manufacturers doing that.

      BTW, How many updates did the 3GS get before it was EOL?

      You said "Apple OS updates are free of charge". OSX updates were not always free of charge.

      PS, Apple did a similar "EOL" for Mavericks, two models, released fairly close together, one gets the update the other doesn't.

      "Quite possibly. Neither of us have Apple TV, and it's not what we were talking about."

      Really, so because this device does 'auto updates' it is OK because here are no third party risks? isn't the same true for all IOS devices since they all use the app store?

    15. Re: poorly by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Updating to iOS7 was the ONLY way to get the SSL/TLS bug fixed, so yeah, it was pretty much forced.

      Wrong. Apple released a patch for iOS 6 on the same day as the iOS7 fix for that bug.

    16. Re: poorly by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Why doesn't IOS 7 work on an iPhone 3GS?

      Your link explains. It's a very old phone that's not powerful enough to run iOS7. The same is NOT true of Androids. Androids typically get an update at maybe 6 months old, and then never get any more. The problem is that device manufacturers and networks don't feel any incentive to update them beyond that. It's not because they are no longer powerful enough.

      You said "Apple OS updates are free of charge". OSX updates were not always free of charge.

      Which would be why I didn't say "Apple OS updates were always free of charge."

      Really, so because this device does 'auto updates' it is OK because here are no third party risks? isn't the same true for all IOS devices since they all use the app store?

      1. Yes.
      2. No.

    17. Re: poorly by ldephil · · Score: 2

      Not true. Try and restore an iDevice - it will require you to update to the last/latest supported OS on that device because they decline to sign older OS updates.

    18. Re: poorly by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Only for devices that could not upgrade to iOS 7 (e.g. iPhone 3 family and earlier). iPhone 4 would not let you get that upgrade.

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    19. Re: poorly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, you work for Apple's PR department or what?

      In a way, yes. He's a fanboy, you see.

      But rather than receiving a salary from Apple, he actually pays them for their overpriced hardware for the privilege. That's the true genius of Jobs - he found a way to get free marketing without having to hire staff.

    20. Re: poorly by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      A few corrections...

      4. Everyone is suing Apple because that's where the money is.

      No, it's because Steve Jobs decided to go "thermonuclear" with patent litigation, and because Apple doesn't have enough valuable technology patents of its own to cross-license and refuses to pay cash.

      1. If iOS 7 was so bad, why was the adoption rate so high so fast?

      Apple hype around upgrades. If iOS 7 were so good why were so many people downgrading and them complaining when that option went away? Also: automatic updates and people not realizing the ramifications of a major OS upgrade that would make everything look different and slow their device down.

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    21. Re: poorly by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      No, it's because Steve Jobs decided to go "thermonuclear" with patent litigation, and because Apple doesn't have enough valuable technology patents of its own to cross-license and refuses to pay cash.

      A lot of the lawsuits have been by patent trolls. But you do remember that Apple won cases against Samsung (twice), and HTC?

      Apple hype around upgrades. If iOS 7 were so good why were so many people downgrading and them complaining when that option went away? Also: automatic updates and people not realizing the ramifications of a major OS upgrade that would make everything look different and slow their device down.

      And you've seen cited of representative samples of the majority if people who upgraded to iOS 7 not liking it?

      People complain about change on the Internet. News at 11. How many people have complained about Facebook changes and swore they would never use it again?

    22. Re: poorly by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      And how are things off in your own little world? What a crooked, stupid view of reality. The ipad mini is an ipad 2. It just is. They couldn't get a 3 into that small of a chassis with small of a battery because of how stupidly they designed it. The iPad 3 sucked because it was too hot, the battery life was worse, and the price was needlessly high. THAT is the truth. It had nothing to do with the new connectors.
      People are suing Apple because of unfair device design, patent stealing, monopoly abuse, tax evasion, etc. You know, REAL reasons.

    23. Re: poorly by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      Don't even bother. He's off in his own little reality where Apple is perfect.

    24. Re: poorly by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Actually your claim is not true. If you have a device with a later OS, you can't downgrade the OS by restoring. But you are not forced to upgrade to the latest OS.

      e.g. I you have iOS 6 and want to restore from a backup made with iOS 5, then that's not a problem. You are not forced to upgrade to iOS 7.

    25. Re: poorly by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      I was slow to upgrade my iPhone 4, and never did upgrade to iOS 7. I had the option, but it was never forced.

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    26. Re: poorly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What the fuck are you talking about?

      the 3GS didn't have enough RAM. We aren't talking about just for the core OS, you need enough memory for all the 1st and 2nd party software that comes with the new OS, and you need to provide a good experience in 3rd party apps.

      Anything that could run Mountain Lion runs Mavericks (and Yosemite).

      Go back under your bridge, troll.

  13. watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...so-called iWatch — the “smartwatch” that Apple observers are eagerly awaiting as the next world-beating gadget"

    so.. like every other wearable announced?

    and... looks like the motorola 360 is the shit to beat by a long margin - if its anything close to what has been shown off..

    1. Re:watch by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      What is a Motorola 360? I have never ever seen one in use, nor a Sammy gear or a google glass for that matter. I guarantee that when apple sells 10 million iwatchrd the first year, we will all see them everywhere. And yes, I know what a moto 360 is, I'm just proving a point. Also, nobody knows what the iwatch will look like.

  14. Brand identity by ArhcAngel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    According to this article Apple bought Beats because the Apple brand is fading. Tim Cook is buying what Steve Jobs created from within.

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    1. Re: Brand identity by Karlt1 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Or they could have bought a company that sells high margin products and has a streaming music service because they wanted to sell high margin products and streaming music service....Nahh to simple of an explanation. I think I like your explanation better.....

    2. Re: Brand identity by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

      too

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    3. Re:Brand identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shhh.. the fact Itunes was purchased and OS-X is based on BSD are secrets. Clearly all the great stuff comes straight from apple.

    4. Re:Brand identity by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Apple is still the most valuable brand in the world. Beats doesn't even make an appearance.

      http://www.forbes.com/powerful...

    5. Re:Brand identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not really.
      NeXT bought Apple extremely cheap, then renamed Nextstep to OS X.

      You cannot say with a straight face that Apple bought NeXT.

    6. Re: Brand identity by puto · · Score: 2

      Beats is a marginal product sold at an inflated price because it was lauded by Dr. Dre and people think it will make them seem cooler by wearing large gaudy headphones with Beats inscribed on them, when the same quality can be had for 20 bucks. As for as streaming, Beats is about 5 years late to the game.

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    7. Re: Brand identity by Karlt1 · · Score: 2

      As for as streaming, Beats is about 5 years late to the game.

      Subscription music services have tried and failed since 2000. For you to think that there are only 5 years old says something.

      If only Apple had started selling music a decade ago. They might have a profitable digital music business by now.....

    8. Re: Brand identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You could both be right, considering the only reason for Beats' price as a company or as a product is due to their branding. Apple could have bought a company making similar or better quality products at a small fraction of the price -- both the product and the company -- and remade them into a high-margin Apple product line. That's likely what Jobs would have done, and it's the option with more upside potential.

    9. Re:Brand identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Apple transferred (significant amounts of) money and in exchange received NeXT stock. That seems to satisfy the requirements for "Apple bought Next."

    10. Re:Brand identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can say with a straight face that Apple bought NeXT because Apple did indeed buy NeXT.

      Apple purchased NeXT on December 20, 1996, for $429 million and 1.5 million shares of Apple stock. As part of the agreement, Steve Jobs, Chairman and CEO of NeXT Software, returned to Apple, the company he co-founded in 1976.[3] The merger promised to marry software from NeXT with Apple's hardware platforms, eventually resulting in OS X and iOS.

      Apple Computer, Inc. Agrees to Acquire NeXT Software Inc." (Press release). Apple Computer

    11. Re: Brand identity by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Re-read what the GP wrote. Jobs would have created an Apple headphone brand and streaming music service from scratch. Apple already had iTunes to process payments and stream to, and sweet deals with the music industry that Jobs negotiated hard for.

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    12. Re: Brand identity by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      Right because under Jobs they didn't buy lala to start iTunes Radio.

      Or for that matter over *20* other companies.

      http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mergers_and_acquisitions_by_Apple

    13. Re: Brand identity by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      Beats is a marginal product sold at an inflated price...

      Sounds like a perfect fit for Apple then...

      As for as streaming, Beats is about 5 years late to the game.

      And Beats streaming service is far older than Apple's non-existent streaming service. Apple acquiring them instantly gives them a functioning subscription service infrastructure, a paying subscriber base (albeit small), and existing streaming contracts that don't need to be negotiated with dozens of different labels before they can launch the service.

  15. Less hands-on by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But some say he is less hands-on in developing products than his predecessor.

    The best leaders will see their own shortcomings and delegate to trusted experts to pick up their slack. Perhaps this is Cook's strategy.

    1. Re:Less hands-on by joh · · Score: 2

      If you just compare the nearly total standstill of iOS up until iOS 6 to what happened in iOS 7 and 8 he obviously made sure to get some people into the right places who were able to get something done. About time, I'd say.

    2. Re:Less hands-on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only reason iOS7 is installed on so many devices, is because nobody is allowed to install anything else. If users were allowed to dump iOS7 and roll back to 6, those numbers wouldn't look half so good.

      iOS7 is a design disaster, both in overall look and in usability. It looks like someone tried to duplicate the Android OS entirely out of HTML, and did a half-assed job of it.

    3. Re:Less hands-on by rainer_d · · Score: 1

      Maybe you and some of your friends would roll back.
      But that doesn't mean that half of the people who got upgraded to 7 would downgrade to 6 in an instant. That assumption is totally unfounded.
      Do you think that the customer satisfaction statistics that show 90%+ results of ipad/iphone would look as good if people hated iOS7 en masse?

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    4. Re:Less hands-on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Different AC: I've actually not met a person in real life who prefers iOS 7. Every one of my friends either has stayed away, would roll back if they were allowed (including me), or has moved on to Android. Even as an iOS developer with a large codebase (probably 150k+ LOC) that would need porting, it's getting bad enough that I'm pushing as much of my functionality into C so I can move on to Android eventually because I don't like where iOS has gone and I don't think it bodes well for the future.

    5. Re:Less hands-on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Present your statistics if you expect them to have any credence. Unfounded claims are meaningless.

      I present to you the following - go to Google and type this into the search box:

      iOS 7 looks

      Just those words ...and read the auto-fill responses that pop up. That is the public's opinion, in their own words, culled from the internet at large.

    6. Re:Less hands-on by windwalkr · · Score: 1

      As a long-time user, I didn't like my first impression of iOS 7 beta, got used to it after about a day, and would not now go back. I actively recommend that people I know upgrade, unless they have an older device (never install a new iOS on a 3+ year old device; it never ends well.)

      So, you haven't met me "in real life", but there are plenty of people who like iOS 7.

      If we went on "met in real life" figures, then I'd have to say that nearly everybody uses an iPhone and very few use Android. Because that's what I saw on my recent holiday. Obviously not a fair comment, but maybe it goes to show that people with a similar viewpoint often end up in the same place.

    7. Re:Less hands-on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can anyone else recreate this beta fault?

      When I came to look for the above #47244333 I could not find it under beta but switching to classic mode it appeared?

      Also in preview the

      But some say he is less hands-on in developing products than his predecessor.

      The best leaders will see their own shortcomings and delegate to trusted experts to pick up their slack. Perhaps this is Cook's strategy.

      quotes from PhrostyMcByte's post came in classic style but they disappeared when submitted.

      beta rucks. Dammint I will try again
      beta tucks.

      Duck beta.
      Huck beta.

      I will build my own beta. With Blackjack! And Hookers! Ah forget the Blackjack.

  16. LMFAO by John+Bokma · · Score: 1

    Best joke posted to Slashdot this month, thank you!

  17. Re:It was never about Jobs, but rather his adheren by tomhath · · Score: 1

    What is responsible for the state of Apple today? It is the cult-like mindset that affects so many of Apple's customers.

    Yes, and that cult was created and centered around Jobs. He created the market for Apple products and the aura around them.

  18. Brand identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cough cough Weren't the iPod, iTunes, and what OS X was based upon all created outside Apple and therefore bought in? Cough Cough

  19. Lets not rewrite history here by tuppe666 · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Time and circumstances have changed. The iPad mini is a good example. When Jobs frowned upon a smaller iPad a smaller device meant a lower resolution screen. Once pixel densities improved and a smaller device could have the same resolution as the original full sized device the circumstanced changed such that Jobs' original judgement no longer applied

    Ignoring the fact that when the ipad mini came out it was the low resolution device (1024×768 px at 163 ppi). Steve jobs had already launched the iphone 4 with its *cough* retina display (960×640 at 326 ppi) two years earlier.

    You seen to forget that Jobsy(I like to park in handicapped space) was not the density of pixles...bit the size of the display to quote the foul smelling genius "It's meaningless unless your table includes sandpaper," Jobs said, "so that the user can sand down their fingers to around one quarter of their present size." He said 7-inch screens were actually 45 per cent the size of an iPad, which wasn't sufficient.

    "Apple has done extensive user testing and we really understand this stuff," he added. "There are clear limits on how close you can place things on a touchscreen, which is why we think 10 inches is the minimum screen size to create great tablet apps.

    Lets not start using words like "universal truths"(sic) when you are at best misinformed

    1. Re:Lets not rewrite history here by Torodung · · Score: 1

      Could it have been the state of capacitive touch-screens at the time, and the failure to recognize the leaps those devices made since the release of the iPad.

      It's possible they tested bleeding edge tech, and at the time the displays really weren't up to snuff yet for a smaller form factor.

      I'm just speculating. Maybe someone who knows will reply. Touch has gotten a lot better, very quickly in my opinion.

    2. Re:Lets not rewrite history here by perpenso · · Score: 2

      Time and circumstances have changed. The iPad mini is a good example. When Jobs frowned upon a smaller iPad a smaller device meant a lower resolution screen. Once pixel densities improved and a smaller device could have the same resolution as the original full sized device the circumstanced changed such that Jobs' original judgement no longer applied

      Ignoring the fact that when the ipad mini came out it was the low resolution device (1024×768 px at 163 ppi). Steve jobs had already launched the iphone 4 with its *cough* retina display (960×640 at 326 ppi) two years earlier.

      You seen to forget that Jobsy(I like to park in handicapped space) was not the density of pixles...bit the size of the display to quote the foul smelling genius "It's meaningless unless your table includes sandpaper," Jobs said, "so that the user can sand down their fingers to around one quarter of their present size." He said 7-inch screens were actually 45 per cent the size of an iPad, which wasn't sufficient.

      "Apple has done extensive user testing and we really understand this stuff," he added. "There are clear limits on how close you can place things on a touchscreen, which is why we think 10 inches is the minimum screen size to create great tablet apps.

      Lets not start using words like "universal truths"(sic) when you are at best misinformed

      And the iPad mini was 8 inches not 7, and at 8 with 1024x768 the 40x40 recommended tap target was large enough. No sandpaper required. As I said, circumstances had changed since Jobs made those comments, pixel density, touch sensor accuracy, etc.

  20. Re:It was never about Jobs, but rather his adheren by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jobs was merely a prophet within the religion of Apple. He was a messenger, at best. That's why the religion has outlived him. It doesn't depend on any one messenger. It's about the (false?) hope it gives people who buy such products. It's this market, the market for a cause for these social rejects to rally around, that existed independent of Jobs, and still exists very strongly today even though he has been dead for some time. The messenger is irrelevant; it's the cause that's most significant.

  21. But who will succeed Steve Jobs? by DanielOom · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe Apple could make a comeback under Scott McNealy, former head of SUN Microsystems.

  22. First; best or cheapest by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    What is a Motorola 360? I have never ever seen one in use, nor a Sammy gear or a google glass for that matter. I guarantee that when apple sells 10 million iwatchrd the first year, we will all see them everywhere. And yes, I know what a moto 360 is, I'm just proving a point. Also, nobody knows what the iwatch will look like.

    I have no idea how successful the iwatch will be, what I do know, it is already a long way from being perceived as being first. It is not walking into a market which has years of necessary frand patents. It is walking into a market with large companies Sony; Samsung; Google already having products(some on their second generation) and patents. Whatever the iwatch looks like they changed the game...and it is costing them now. Oh and I like the look of the Motorola 360 too, so its looking pretty good for an unlauched product.

    1. Re:First; best or cheapest by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      I have no idea how successful the iwatch will be, what I do know, it is already a long way from being perceived as being first.

      You don't even know whether there will be a watch.

      All the smartwatches so far have been awful, and commercial failures. Apple will only make one if they have a different concept of it, such that they can make a device people want. Otherwise they won't bring out a smartwatch.

      Given this years WWDC, a game console is far more likely than a watch. And they are unlikely to launch into 2 new categories in the same year.

    2. Re:First; best or cheapest by metaforest · · Score: 1

      What is a Motorola 360? I have never ever seen one in use, nor a Sammy gear or a google glass for that matter. I guarantee that when apple sells 10 million iwatchrd the first year, we will all see them everywhere. And yes, I know what a moto 360 is, I'm just proving a point. Also, nobody knows what the iwatch will look like.

      I have no idea how successful the iwatch will be, what I do know, it is already a long way from being perceived as being first. It is not walking into a market which has years of necessary frand patents. It is walking into a market with large companies Sony; Samsung; Google already having products(some on their second generation) and patents. Whatever the iwatch looks like they changed the game...and it is costing them now. Oh and I like the look of the Motorola 360 too, so its looking pretty good for an unlauched product.

      Take a wander back to the first generation iPod, or the first iPhone. Apple did not invent those device classes.... they innovated them. They refined them.

        Small innovative MP3 players had been around for years before the iPod came out... iRiver had some of the best ones available at the time, and they went far beyond what the iPod started out as. But the innovation was embedding a mass storage device, and a well thought out user interface, and having a relatively seamless process to load media onto the device, and creating a media market place to reduce friction in media sales, and really great marketing and advertising....

      Same thing with the iPhone. It wasn't the first smart phone.... it was the first rational smart phone. The first with a sensible UX story. The first with seamless media integration.

      All of this evolved EVERYONES expectations of what a smart phone could be and ultimately SHOULD be.

      As others have pointed out Apple did not invent the GUI even before XEROX there were bold steps in that direction that simply fell flat... Even the LISA... the first Apple attempt at what became the Macintosh was a bloated piece of crap. Apple didn't invent the laptop either. Their first attempt was the Macintosh Portable... IBM Selectrics weigh less and take up less desk space.... forget about using it on your lap... your legs would go to sleep before you got the thing to boot. Their second attempt in each case was full of win.... Mac 128K took off.... and in its time so did the PowerBook 100... the first practical laptop by any manufacturer.

  23. The New York Times authors are would-be novelists. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The New York Times article Slashdot mentioned, Tim Cook, Making Apple His Own, is an example of the collapse of the New York Times.

    The authors are WRITERS (Heavenly horn sounds). The first 4 paragraphs are examples of their intent to tell stories like novelists, avoiding writing boring stuff like news. And, of course, WRITERS don't care about messy things like technology, even if they write about technology companies.

    It's okay to put in some facts to give novels a feeling of realism: "And the [Apple] stock price fell nearly in half from its 2012 peak to the middle of 2013" Then: "To shore up shareholder faith, Mr. Cook split the stock, increased the dividend and engineered a $90 billion buyback -- steps that helped shares rebound almost entirely." The price of stock goes up when someone buys a lot of it.

    But novelists have problems. Sometimes facts are more weird than any novelist would invent: "rap star Dr. Dre ... will join Apple." The Wall Street Journal's novelists say Apple is "Tapping Tastemakers to Regain Music Mojo". Apple will sell "high-end headphones", under the Beats name. What could go wrong?

    Mr. Cook is not much like Steve Jobs. He supports brand confusion: "Mr. Cook is trying to broaden Apple's brand, too, taking to Twitter and other public venues to express support for environmentalism and gay rights (and for Auburn University football)."

    There are big hopes for the Apple iWatch "... according to people involved in the project, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to press." Steve Jobs fired people who announced products early because announcing early creates brand confusion.

    The whole point of being a novelist is to avoid unpleasant realities. It's like being a drugee, but without the drugs. Don't get involved with messy issues. Quoting: "Jonathan Ive, the head of design at Apple ... says Mr. Cook has not neglected the company's central mission: innovation. 'Honestly, I don't think anything's changed,' he said."

    Mr. Cook wrote an opinion piece in The Wall Street Journal in support of proposed federal legislation protecting gay, lesbian and transgender workers.

    Nothing has changed?

    Another quote: "Last July, a federal judge ruled that Apple had illegally conspired with publishers to try to raise prices in the e-books market; Apple is appealing."

    And this: "Apple has also started building apps for Android systems".

    Novelists like to live in their fantasy worlds. They don't want to think about messy news like the beginning of a gay, rap-singing, law-breaking, watch-making Apple that makes software for Google.

    The real story? Apple and the New York Times are both spiralling downwards, in my opinion.

  24. Shares by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    most people find those devices OK. your opinion is not meaningful when Apple shares and profits are climbing to the statosphere

    Except Apples shares plummeted under cooks leadership it has taken two years to recover some of it most based on market manipulation rather than actual success. Its profits continue to be based on the iphone in the American market...everything else is struggling including the ipad and that peaked two years ago. Apple is seeing shrinking margins and its first shrinking profits under Jobs.

    The bottom line is that growth before came from successful launches of products...Cook has yet to show the world anything slashmydots is criticising later iterations of products Jobs launched as *new* markets, and people are buying competitors products more, because they are larger, faster, cheaper, newer, powerful blah blah blah

    1. Re: Shares by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      Except Apples shares plummeted under cooks leadership it has taken two years to recover some of it most based on market manipulation rather than actual success.

      Uhh two years ago. Cook was in charge. Apple saw their highest share prices under Cook.

      Its profits continue to be based on the iphone in the American market..

      Someone hasn't looked at Apple's financial statements to see the breakdown of where revenues are generated by region.

      .everything else is struggling including the ipad and that peaked two years ago. Apple is seeing shrinking margins and its first shrinking profits under Jobs.
      The bottom line is that growth before came from successful launches of products...Cook has yet to show the world anything

      So which electronic market do you think they can get in that's larger than the global phone market ? Maybe they should sell $1500 eye glasses.....

      slashmydots is criticising later iterations of products Jobs launched as *new* markets, and people are buying competitors products more, because they are larger, faster, cheaper, newer, powerful blah blah blah

      And still every single Android manufacturer is struggling except for Samsung. Maybe Apple knows something that you don't....

      Bit where are these faster more powerful Android devices?

  25. grammar is not very different from coding. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you were to say, "Jim Thompson [according to those] who spoke anonymously...,'" it would mean something very different from "Jim Thompson [according to those who spoke anonymously]...." The summary uses the first, which implies this named man spoke anonymously.

  26. Creativity by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Steve Jobs was not creative. At all. Name one thing he ever invented.

    Apple. As in the company. It is very much the creative brainchild of Steve Jobs. He founded it, led it, it foundered without him and he rebuilt it. If you think that didn't require immense creativity and invention then I think you don't understand the meaning of the words. Furthermore many of the important details of Apple products have been shown to be directly attributable to Steve Jobs. No, he didn't do it all himself, but then nobody does in business.

    1. Re:Creativity by w_dragon · · Score: 4, Informative

      The post-2000 revival of apple, sure, that was Jobs. But the founding and initial success of Apple would not have happened without Wozniak.

    2. Re:Creativity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes!

      Of course, who created Picasso's paintings: Picasso, or the guy who stretched the canvas he painted on?

    3. Re:Creativity by imikem · · Score: 2

      And would not have happened without Jobs either. As the GP says, "He didn't do it all himself, but then nobody does in business." Thus neatly answering GGP's challenge question.

      --
      Perscriptio in manibus tabellariorum est.
    4. Re:Creativity by grouchomarxist · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Jobs was the one that turned what Woz made into a company. Woz wasn't interested in starting a company. Jobs had to struggle to convince Woz to leave HP and start Apple. If it wasn't for Jobs, Woz might have spent the rest of his life designing calculators at HP. (HP wasn't interested in the computer Woz created, nor does it seem to have recognized Woz's ability.)

    5. Re:Creativity by whisper_jeff · · Score: 2

      But the founding and initial success of Apple would not have happened without Wozniak.

      And you never, ever would have heard of Wozniak without Jobs.

      Ever.

      Wozniak needed what Jobs brought to the table as much as Jobs needed what Woz brought. Each, without the other, would have been nothing.

    6. Re:Creativity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "But the founding and initial success of Apple would not have happened without Wozniak." ... and Motorola. And the chips the backward-engineered to power the apple II's.... Which would be illegal under the DMCA.

      So, anytime tells you to emulate Steve Jobs' success, remind them that its illegal now.

    7. Re:Creativity by metaforest · · Score: 1

      But the founding and initial success of Apple would not have happened without Wozniak.

      And you never, ever would have heard of Wozniak without Jobs.

      Ever.

      Wozniak needed what Jobs brought to the table as much as Jobs needed what Woz brought. Each, without the other, would have been nothing.

      ^^ THIS!

      Jobs was the Jelly to WOZ's peanut butter. Without both, you don't get to a PB&J, crusts or no.

  27. Google replaced them by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    Your information is out of date.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/je...

    Google has overtaken Apple to become the world’s most valuable global brand in the 2014 BrandZ Top 100 Most Valuable Global Brand ranking, worth $159 billion, an increase of 40% year on year. After three years at the top, Apple slipped to No 2 on the back of a 20% decline in brand value, to $148 billion, according to annual research conducted by Millward Brown.

    1. Re:Google replaced them by BasilBrush · · Score: 2

      Although it's being reported on the Forbes site, that's not the Forbes list. That's the Brandz list. Apple is still number one on the Forbes list.

      But OK, Apple is number 2 and Beats still isn't on the list. The point is the same.

  28. Huge difference in people by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Cook is a businessman.

    Jobs was a evangelist.

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    ---- Booth was a patriot ----
  29. AppleTV App SDK by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly I'd be happier to see an openly available AppleTV SDK than a watch.

    Yesterday I streamed the 24 Hours of Le Mans via my iPod (paid for via an in app purchase) and put it on my TV via AirPlay. If they had an open SDK they likely would have had an Apple TV app which would have worked better than my approach. I had to switch devices/screens to view timing data and replays whereas a native TV app could have provided a much nicer experience.

    Besides, think of the games! :)

  30. A watch, console or personal massager? by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    You don't even know whether there will be a watch.

    Except it is already a proven market, with large companies and some great products. I personally would love Apple the parasite and its abuse of patents to stay out of new markets.

    It is unlikely to get involved in consoles...low turn over...no profit margins already a premium market. It could make money on *cough* apps, but android is there first and in droves cheaper with a larger ecosystem...and it does not make the same margins from software. The bottom line is Apple can't even right drivers as fast as Linux...they run 15 year old games as a tenth of the speed.

    The bottom line is I would love a more powerful AppleTV a product Apple have squandered. At least we have chromecast.

    1. Re:A watch, console or personal massager? by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      You don't even know whether there will be a watch.

      Except it is already a proven market, with large companies and some great products.

      to date the market has been proven to suck. even the most successful product, the nike fuel band, is shutting down. the only way apple gets involved is if they can flip the bitch and make something new.

      It is unlikely to get involved in consoles...low turn over...no profit margins already a premium market. It could make money on *cough* apps, but android is there first and in droves cheaper with a larger ecosystem...and it does not make the same margins from software.

      apple already makes consoles... TV consoles. it just needs to flip the switch and open up an app store and allow games. then roll it out to the millions of already existing apple TVs in the market.

      The bottom line is Apple can't even right drivers as fast as Linux...they run 15 year old games as a tenth of the speed.

      true for mac gaming, which is retarded. but false for iOS gaming, which leads the pack. didn't you see the support for new and better games in iOS 8, and the gaming tools in Swift? growth growth growth.

    2. Re:A watch, console or personal massager? by BasilBrush · · Score: 0

      Except it is already a proven market, with large companies and some great products.

      In your dreams. There are no commercially successful smartwatches. They all bombed.

      It is unlikely to get involved in consoles...

      Noted, so I can say I told you so later.

      but android is there first

      The Android Ouya also completely failed in the market, despite you previously predicting it was going to be a market beater. There have been no successful Android consoles.

      The bottom line is Apple can't even right drivers as fast as Linux...they run 15 year old games as a tenth of the speed.

      Clearly you also haven't heard of Metal.

    3. Re:A watch, console or personal massager? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The bottom line is Apple can't even right drivers as fast as Linux...they run 15 year old games as a tenth of the speed.

      Clearly you also haven't heard of Metal.

      And clearly you don't know what Metal is, the inability to write decently performing OpenGL drivers resulted in them coming up with their own me-too version of AMD's Mantle and Microsoft's DX12. We're on our way back to the bad old days of every narrow-minded vendor thinking they can do it best (Glide, Rendition, NVLib, CIF, S3D, MSI).

      But let's face it, while I like many of Apple's products (iPhone, AppleTV and MBP) I also very much dislike or at least find to be more cumbersome than useful some of their other products (new Mac Pro, iPad) but they could give you shit on a stick, charge you $1999 for it and you'd beg for more if you weren't so indoctrinated in the idea that whatever Apple gave you was already correctly portioned.

    4. Re:A watch, console or personal massager? by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      You don't even know whether there will be a watch.

      Except it is already a proven market, with large companies and some great products.

      There were some exceptionally dumb statements in this discussion, but this takes the cake.

      --
      Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
    5. Re:A watch, console or personal massager? by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Apple's OpenGL ES drivers are as good as anyone else's. But OpenGL always was an abstraction, and over the years the amount to which it's model deviates from how GPUs work has only got bigger. Which means all software going through OpenGL is slow compared with the lower level APIs such as DX and Metal. Worse, it introduces latency.

      OpenGL is a case where writing for portability results in getting inferior results on ALL platforms. And these days, the vast majority of games developers aren't using OpenGL directly and don't have their own graphics engines. They are using third party engines such as Unreal Engine. It's far better for the engine creators to build on Metal, DX or whatever low level API there is on a platform than to suffer the inefficiencies of OpenGL.

      It sucks for Linux users, left with the slowest API of the lot. But everyone else gains.

  31. Thank you finally by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    OK, Apple is number 2

    Something we can finally agree on, the fact that Apples brand is shrinking and Beats is growing in an Apple area dominates does not really matter. the whole point is Apple is relying on past glories...and those under Jobs.

    1. Re:Thank you finally by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      the whole point is Apple is relying on past glories...and those under Jobs.

      If that's your point, you're misinformed. Apple just had it's most impressive WWDC since the launch of the iPhone. It's for developers, so it's understandable you don't know. But it presages some very exciting products when they do their hardware announcements in the fall.

    2. Re:Thank you finally by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      OK, Apple is number 2

      Something we can finally agree on, the fact that Apples brand is shrinking and Beats is growing in an Apple area dominates does not really matter. the whole point is Apple is relying on past glories...and those under Jobs.

      Because in one out a dozen brand charts, Google beats Apple.Coincidently "The credibility of the Interbrand and BrandZ league tables have been cast into doubt by an article written in Marketing Week by Mark Ritson.[4] The lack of clear definitions and valuation dates in the both companies methodology raise questions about the subjectivity involved in brand valuations. Being part of multinational advertising groups, Interbrand and Millward Brown also suffer from the risk of objectivity. Transparency and objectivity are two of the requirements of the ISO 10668 standard of monetary brand valuations."

      --
      Of course news about a fake are Fake News.
  32. AppleTV a failure by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    Honestly I'd be happier to see an openly available AppleTV SDK

    Apple have squandered a lead they had with AppleTV when for a few $ you can by a cromecast of android device(even dedicated gaming ones) who cares now. In context of this article I think its cooks biggest failure.

    1. Re: AppleTV a failure by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      Apple have squandered a lead they had with AppleTV when for a few $ you can by a cromecast of android device(even dedicated gaming ones) who cares now. In context of this article I think its cooks biggest failure.

      http://m.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/new-study-google-chromecast-usage-takes-dive/#!Zzvaa

  33. Walt Disney by Falos · · Score: 1

    "I am in no sense of the word a great artist, not even a great animator; I have always had men working for me whose skills were greater than my own. I am an idea man."

  34. Flip this and Flip this...Flipping eck? by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    I didn't really understand your point about watches, something about "bitches" and flipping. Your talk about the nike band...not really a smartwatch really, but http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04... there is talk of collaboration between the two which makes more sense, as they are unlikely to compete in the smartphone market, which is already hitting strides. The moto360 is making waves.

    As for switching on games on AppleTV...are those people games buyers or would they have like bought a game console instead of an AppleTV.

    As for swift...a proprietary language, other than locking in developers to ios why would anyone care. you can't pull those tricks with a market share of 15% and shrinking however good it is...and the drivers are still slow.

    1. Re: Flip this and Flip this...Flipping eck? by Karlt1 · · Score: 1

      As for swift...a proprietary language, other than locking in developers to ios why would anyone care. you can't pull those tricks with a market share of 15% and shrinking however good it is...and the drivers are still slow.

      Right. A proprietary language used only by Apple. That will never work.

      http://m.infoworld.com/t/application-development/objective-c-regains-its-mojo-in-tiobe-language-index-218317

  35. Launch a new Product Line already by tuppe666 · · Score: 1

    Apple just had it's most impressive WWDC since the launch of the iPhone.

    Safari(With Bing?) Mail improvements, More Lock in/Cloud(At a price). Single platform...slight(after slight) at google, costly cloud applications, even with a few tweaks...like a clone of the awesomebar, and a nice payout from Microsoft.

    Spin is just that spin. I bought the first iPhone

    1. Re:Launch a new Product Line already by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      You've not even covered the tip of the iceberg of what was revealed at WWDC.

  36. Re:The New York Times authors are would-be novelis by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Funny

    Mr. Cook split the stock, increased the dividend and engineered a $90 billion buyback -- steps that helped shares rebound almost entirely.

    I'm old enough to remember when Apple stock went up because they made and sold revolutionary new products.

    Pro-tip for entrepreneurs: If you spend $90 billion buying your own stock, the stock price will rise. Similarly, if you get very drunk an ugly girl doesn't look quite as bad.

    The problem is you can only do that so many times before you can no longer pretend she's a supermodel or you have to go to rehab to prevent your life from falling apart around you.

    --
    You are welcome on my lawn.
  37. Creative With A Twist - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We know that Jobs wasn't a technologist. Even in his later years you couldn't have possibly called him much of an inventor and certainly not one of the same caliber as Wozniak.

    We also know that Jobs was a poor businessman until his later years, and even then, he only learned his lessons the hard way by nearly destroying the company after the early success of the Apple ][ series. He was no Markkula.

    What Jobs was, other than an egomaniacal backstabber and chronic credit thief, was a nonpareil marketer. The only thing he promoted better than his products was himself, but that's besides the point - convincing his company and his customers that he was the second coming of digital Jesus (or an Silicon Valley version of the Old Testament God) was just part of doing business and a means of gaining control over his environment, necessary tasks for any executive despite his means of fulfilling them. He understood the concept and power of fashion and how easy it is to reach into that right-brain and some deeper, more reptilian components accompanying it, and cause people to want to buy things regardless of their technological merits. By transforming devices into accessories and attaching status to the Apple brand through trendy design and hip advertising, Jobs was able to create a commercial cult unmatched in recent history, and all of that has to do with a profound understanding of the irrational human mind. (The huge part that rests underneath the iceberg of consciousness, mostly unseen by ourselves.) That man could've sold dog droppings at $1,000 a pound and Apple would still be the richest company in the world. He was just that good, the king of postmodern consumerism.

    I can't even be mad at him for how he ran Apple. I'm fascinated by it, actually. Not only is it instructional for future leaders, it's a validation of every critique of the common consumer and a gigantic rebuttal to the idea that agents in a market always behave rationally, when in fact they seldom do. (The greatest force in the marketplace is not reason but a combination of impulse and passion, which are perhaps one and the same.) I condemn how he treated his friends and his family and we all know now that he was a deeply unpleasant, Machiavellian asshole through and through, but if you ignore his character he did everything else right. He played his game astonishingly well and is one of the few people I would actually say 'won' at capitalism. It's a shame he didn't live longer. I would've liked to have seen where he would take the company next and what other schemes he would devise over time.

    Speaking of which, he was no medical doctor, either. Too bad for him that he convinced himself he was one. Hubris kills in more ways than one.

    1. Re:Creative With A Twist - by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Truer words have never been spoken.

    2. Re:Creative With A Twist - by david_thornley · · Score: 2

      You don't understand what Jobs was doing.

      Jobs's idea was to make stuff that non-geeks could use easily. He had style and taste, so he made stuff that looked distinctive. Not counting what he did to the Mac lines when coming back, he revolutionized three markets by introducing products that were far better in many respects than their predecessors. They allowed ordinary people to use them easily.

      He had several traits. He could come up with ideas for things that normal people would like, unlike a very large amount of techies. He had taste, also unlike a very large amount of techies. His technical abilities were enough to make him able to see when a certain product could be produced and sold. He was a perfectionist in some ways, and refused to release a substandard product. He was enough of an asshole to ram his ideas through despite what other people said.

      He was good at marketing, but he was pushing the best products. The iPod, in conjunction with iTunes, was an easy way to arrange and carry music. There were MP3 players with better technical specifications, but harder to use. The iPhone was a smartphone with a good web browser, among other things. The iPad was very different from anything resembling a predecessor, and easy to use. No marketing campaign will last that many years without good products.

      He knew what to leave out, and how much it would be missed. The earlier iPhones lacked copy-paste, since Apple didn't know how to do it to his standards, but I never found that to be a problem. They didn't have app development for a while, but he pointed out that websites could do a whole lot of useful things on the iPhone. Techies, in general, don't leave things out, and would rather implement a feature clumsily than leave it out.

      In other words, he was an artist, with enough technical know-how and force of personality to get what he wanted. That was the biggest reason behind his success.

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      "When you have eliminated the unacceptable, whatever is left, however improbable, must be the truthiness" - Holmes
  38. Of course by Duckman5 · · Score: 1

    so when Google released their 7" tablet in July 2012, I bought one.

    Then, in October 2012, Apple did a "me too!" and announced the iPad mini. I still think it was a reactionary move and I doubt the iPad mini would have surfaced at all if someone else hadn't released it first.

    Wait, you think the iPad mini was approved, designed, engineered, mass manufactured and released in four months?

    Haven't you ever heard of rapid prototyping?
    This it's the Apple development cycle here! It's not like anyone expects a finished product out of anything first generation.

  39. One row of icons by lessthan0 · · Score: 1

    So far, the extent of innovation under Tim Cook is one extra row of icons on the iPhone.

    Not much compared to Steve Jobs.

  40. One thing by Camembert · · Score: 2

    >Steve Jobs was not creative. At all. Name one thing he ever invented.

    I thought that he came up himself with the idea of the nifty magnetic power cable connector. A very good innovation that must have saved many a Mac laptop when users would step on the cable.
    In any case he could see potential and kept on pushing his people further and further until he would say himself "ok, now we have something really cool.". It is that attitude that caused Apple to come with great products. Regarding Cook, he seems a perfectionist as well in a different way. Let's see what they will come up with their watch product before we really judge him. Apple was rarrely about being first to market for example with smartphones or music players, but they tend to do things truly well. Currently there is no smartwatch I would bother wearing. Considering Apple's history, there is a good chance that their approach will be a lot more attractive.

    1. Re:One thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought that he came up himself with the idea of the nifty magnetic power cable connector.

      He didn't. It's not even an Apple invention.
      He might however have been the one who decided that they should use that solution on their laptops.

  41. Fresh Hot Videos - http://freshwapi.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fresh Hot Videos - http://freshwapi.com

  42. Less hands-on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But some say he is less hands-on in developing products than his predecessor.

    The best leaders will see their own shortcomings and delegate to trusted experts to pick up their slack. Perhaps this is Cook's strategy.

    Jobs famously said that 64K was enough for the Macintosh and the engineers went behind his back and stuck in 128K anyways. Jobs designed a computer that would catch fire because it could not get rid of the heat it created. Jobs did many other insane things which were purely insane and not insanely great.

    The best leaders will see their own shortcomings and delegate to trusted experts to pick up their slack. This is the difference between the two.

  43. Engineering a company by sjbe · · Score: 2

    But the founding and initial success of Apple would not have happened without Wozniak.

    The founding and initial success of Apple wouldn't have happened without a lot of people, Woz not the least among them. Any claim however that Jobs was not critical to the success of Apple simply is not looking at the facts. As much as the initial Apple computer hardware was Woz's creation, the company of Apple was Job's creation. Building a company or an organization is every bit the creative engineering feat that building a computer is. It's no disrespect to Wozniak to say that without Jobs none of us would likely have had the chance to recognize Woz's genius. However given the repeated successes Jobs had (Apple, Next (sorta), Pixar, Apple again), it seems more likely we might have heard of Steve Jobs if Apple had never happened. After the initial Apple and Apple ][, Woz never really repeated his success again. He seems to have been the right guy in the right place at the right time.

  44. Re:Creativity vs innovation by beh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think the problem is more that many (most?) people seem to think that being creative and being innovative is the same thing. It isn't.

    Steve Jobs may not have been the most creative person on the planet - but he was possibly one of the most innovative.

    It's all well and good if you think of an idea on how to beat cancer - but the idea is nothing if you can't realize it.

    Maybe Xerox had the first graphical user interface - but they had fairly little idea on what to do with it - Jobs did - and while many people will happily point out that Xerox had a mouse and GUI before Apple got there (and they're right) - how many can honestly say they had heard of a mouse and graphical user interfaces BEFORE they had seen one on an Apple computer or one of the countless GUIs that followed?

    How many phones today would have touch screens and controls that look eerily similar to the iPhone ones, if the iPhone wouldn't have shown it before? (it doesn't matter, if you know a single phone before that had a touch screen - physically having the touch screen is not the same as seeing how it was all put together first).

    Tablets had been around before the iPad - but what kind of sales did they have before? And what kind of sales do they have now? And - those that are selling the best now, in terms of their usability, do they look a damn sight more like the iPad, or more like whatever tablets were there before?

    All those are cases of INNOVATIONs brought by Apple and which ultimately massively changed the face of the markets that they went into.

    Another pointer on how Apple did something great and something new?

    Name the last Samsung product launched that had a significant number of other players in the industry immediately clamoring to make something similar or "better"? When was the last time LG did? Google? Google possibly did with gmail - but search engines were there before, even large and well known ones.

    Jobs was great in seeing something and seeing how it could be made useful far beyond what their original creators might have done.

  45. Missing all the important stuff by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Firing employees on elevator rides, driving a plateless Benz and parking it in handicapped spots at every opportunity, organizing a massively anti-competitive no-poaching agreement across the entire tech industry, hypocritically accusing competitors of "theft" if they make a competing product, lulztastic attempts at fruit-based cancer treatment.

    He's doing a downright shitty job, really. But I'm glad that the cult of personality around Jobs is fading, possibly leading to a long-awaited collapse in the Reality Distortion Field.

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    "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
  46. Jobs worship... by GameofScones · · Score: 1

    Is it me or is there a cult of Steve Jobs? He was brilliant. Nut he did not build Apple alone. 1 brilliant Steve Jobs required a lot of smart engineers. Tim Cook knows that, but no one is worshiping him.

  47. inadvertent mental image by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    "...like our old cat used to fill my grandfather's shoes each morning..."

    Um, sorry...

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    Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
  48. By putting steve's shoes in a nice line by sproketboy · · Score: 1

    and pooing in each one.

  49. Re:It was never about Jobs, but rather his adheren by macs4all · · Score: 1

    No longer is Little Johnny just the nancy nerd artist that the varsity football players make fun of. Now he thinks he's Big Johnny, a Ruby on Rails ninja and web designer guru, all thanks to his MacBook Pro.

    And all the snot-nosed, socially retarded, little script kiddies huddled in their Mom's basements pawing their greasy fingers over their creaky little POS plastic shitbox computers somehow don't think they are the "World's Greatest Hax0rs(tm)"?

    Yeahrightsure.

  50. Re:It was never about Jobs, but rather his adheren by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, those kids grew up to be responsible adults with good paying jobs while you grew up to sit around in a Starbucks all day, mooching off of their free wifi and refills trying to show everyone how much of an arteest you think you are.

    You are like one of those guys with bad priorities who spends hundreds of dollars on a pair of shoes because you think it will make you a sports star.

  51. Re: It was never about Jobs, but rather his adhere by macs4all · · Score: 1

    No, those kids grew up to be responsible adults with good paying jobs while you grew up to sit around in a Starbucks all day, mooching off of their free wifi and refills trying to show everyone how much of an arteest you think you are.

    You are like one of those guys with bad priorities who spends hundreds of dollars on a pair of shoes because you think it will make you a sports star.

    LOLWUT?

    I've only been in a Starbucks once in my life, and that was because someone I was with wanted to stop there.

    And as for shoes, the most expensive pair of shoes I have ever bought was about $135. And I have never paid ov $20 for a pair of "sports" shoes. Doesn't make sense for me. I run the heels over too fast to make that make economic sense.

    I have, however, been employed pretty steadily for the past forty years as an embedded engineer and applications developer.

    So, what was that, again?

  52. Re:The New York Times authors are would-be novelis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0