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SpaceX Falcon 9R Vertical Take-Off and Landing Test Flight

schwit1 (797399) writes "The competition heats up: SpaceX [Wednesday] released a new video of the most recent Falcon 9R vertical take-off and landing test flight. The flight was to test the deployment and use of fins for controlling the stage during its return to Earth. Watch them unfold and adjust themselves beginning at about 1:15 into the video. In the second half you can see them near the top of the stage. Yet another video from SpaceX of the world's most blase cows. You can imagine new cows to the herd, reacting to the launch as the conditioned cows just yawn, just another 100 foot tall rocket launching and landing nearby. Nothing to see here."

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  1. Fins by Otter+Popinski · · Score: 3, Funny

    Aaaand 3... 2... 1... Deploy flyswatters!

    1. Re:Fins by CWCheese · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Interesting to see how the fins managed the torsional direction while guiding the rocket laterally. Much smoother than the thrusters used on the DC-X demonstrator. Those flyswatters are a remarkable advance in stabilizing the rocket for touchdown.

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  2. Kerbal Space Program by Piata · · Score: 2

    If Kerbal Space Program has taught me anything, it's that giant rocket engines are incredibley hard to control going forward. I can't even fathom the engineering skill and knowledge of physics required to make a rocket fly near flawlessly in reverse.

    1. Re:Kerbal Space Program by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well, you don't fly a rocket in reverse ... you fly it less forward than usual. ;-)

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    2. Re:Kerbal Space Program by richtopia · · Score: 2

      If KSP has taught me anything, it is that computer controlled rockets (MechJeb) can land vertically very reliably.

  3. Too much credit to cows ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

    the world's most blase cows. You can imagine new cows to the herd

    I have it on the authority of several friends who have been involved in the raising of cows ... cows are far too damned stupid for what you're ascribing to them.

    I believe the entire cow decision tree comes down to: Does it look like it will eat me? Are the other cows moving and do they seem scared? Can I eat it? Can I poop on it? Is it time for a nap?

    Everything else, apparently, is mostly random chance and blind luck.

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  4. Re:confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Air resistance will slow the rocket most of the way down and then when it starts to fall they use the engine to land.

  5. Re:Flyout and back plan by 0123456 · · Score: 2

    If I remember correctly, the stage is so light by that point that they believe they can turn around and fly back using 10% of the fuel. That cuts payload somewhat, but a 20% lower payload for 10% of the price would still be a big win.

    The other option is to launch such that there's a convenient spot to land around where the stage would come down. That would take much less fuel, but you have to fly it back to the launhch site afterwards.

  6. Thank you Elon by wjcofkc · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I know Elon Musk has his haters, even in the nerd community, and they have their reasons. But personally, I am thankful beyond thankful for him, his companies, and many fine employees. There is no one out there working so hard to make the Earth a better place while also opening the doors to space in order to ensure the survival of our species. I find it interesting that the business ventures he lines up are not only geared toward making a better Earth, they simultaneously serve the purpose of developing crucial technologies we would need to colonize Mars. The man is a genius, and yes I'm a fanboy.

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    1. Re:Thank you Elon by towermac · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm right there with you.

      I believe that a landable full sized rocket is somewhat of a big deal. I know we've been hearing about it for a while, but seeing is believing.

      I needed some good news today.

    2. Re:Thank you Elon by queazocotal · · Score: 2

      In 12 years, Musk has gone from having no involvement in space to actually having a company that's designed and flown several rockets.
      Actually having a first stage that is reusable (the first stage of the last rocket launched hit the ocean slow enough that if it'd have had legs, and been on land, it'd have been reusable with little more than refueling)
      Having actual customers for a new rocket which exceeds all current launchers lift capacity is also notable.
      Mars is a hell of a stretch, yes. But he's already come a long way.

      The costs for mars are generally costed without assuming renewable launch. If this can be gotten working, a lot of the costs go down dramatically.

  7. Re:Flyout and back plan by Spy+Handler · · Score: 2

    Huh? No the first stage never makes it into orbit. Otherwise you wouldn't need a second stage and it would be a SSTO vehicle.

  8. New ULA anti-SpaceX campaign is apparent by catchblue22 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you watch the Tesla news lately, I think it is apparent that the current American launch monopolists have initiated a wide ranging propaganda and political campaign against SpaceX. Examples of this are here and here, as well as comment boards on various articles about Space X. The memes I have noticed emphasized are first and foremost that SpaceX is cutting corners (aimed at legislators), that Space X is the beneficiary of "corporate welfare", and that Musk is a "communist bum" (aimed at right-leaning readers).

    One of the primary reasons I think this is evidence of an organized campaign is the timing. Space X initiated the campaign against the Russian rocket engines being used by ULA, as well as objecting to the bulk purchases of launch contracts by the Airforce from ULA, thus locking Space X out of a significant number of launches before it gains certification. I can imagine this as a directive from ULA exectives being given around that time. Such campaigns typically take a few weeks to work-up. They take studies of public opinion, come up with themes to base their campaign around, and then test those themes with the public, often with focus groups. This lag of a few weeks for propaganda campaigns is typical when an organization suddenly decides to initiate a campaign based on new information. Watch for it next time you see a government or corporation being attacked by a new threat. This lag of two or more weeks between threat and response is typical I believe of an organized propaganda campaign.

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    1. Re:New ULA anti-SpaceX campaign is apparent by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      and that Musk is a "communist bum" (aimed at right-leaning readers).

      Hahaha they called the guy who is closest to one of their mythical Randian supermen a communist bum!? LOL!

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    2. Re:New ULA anti-SpaceX campaign is apparent by DanielRavenNest · · Score: 2

      And who is it that actually buys Russian rocket engines? ULA

      Who makes their own engines in California? Space-X

    3. Re:New ULA anti-SpaceX campaign is apparent by thrich81 · · Score: 2

      I read them both and it is gratifying to see that every comment so far (there aren't many) attached to the two stories you listed (WashPo and Bloomberg) rips ULA and Sen Shelby new ones for their attacks on Space X. I guess ULA's astroturfing isn't quite up to speed yet.

  9. Re: Flyout and back plan by 0123456 · · Score: 2

    Why can't you just drive it back? It's got fins; surely it has wheels too!

    Yeah, but it corners like a whale.